The atheists relationship with “science” is different from the theists relationship with God. The thiest relates to God as our loving master, and the Supreme Controller. The atheist relates to “science” with the orientation that "We are the masters, and through “science” we can be the supreme controller. The scientist is building "the Tower of Babel. In this way, no one understand anyone else, and the world is filled with wars, imperialism, slavery, exploitation. In fact, the scientist envies the position of God and wants to usurp that position for himself through his so-called science. Actually, genuine spiritual life is the real science, and each of us has to make the experiment in order to arrive at the right conclusion.
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The atheist is demonic. He doesn’t mind thinking there are beings coming from other planets. That is another diversion, just like going to a night club, or watching movies on Netflicks. Anything to avoid thinking about God. It doesn’t mean he is broad-minded. We are only broad-minded when we make room for God within our hearts. the atheist is small-minded , ungrateful, filled with false pride, unable to acknowledge the glory of the Lord. But he is willing to consider beings from other planets…maybe he can go to the clubs with them, maybe find a girl-friend. Anything to avoid praising God, bowing down to God, desiring to serve God with his thoughts, words and deeds. That’s why there are those who believe in Aliens…but not in God.
I just listened to an interview with Ed Feser, a philosophy professor and I think you would enjoy it.
Hi Cade! Very long program (about an hour) but I caught some 10, 15 minutes. Jesus says in bible that he didn’t come to patch families to gather, but to find the one in the family that would follow him, and tear the family apart (paraphrase). Also, my understanding is that we are eternal souls. Eternal means no beginning and no end. But for the moment, we are in one family or another, for the tiniest speck of eternal time. Our real family is One. God is our eternal Father, and we are all His children. Children of God. But of course there is a tendency for us on earth to get all caught up in these very temporal relationships. The essential criterion, I feel, is that if family life is conducive to our spiritual growth, great! And if not…“what profitith a man if he gains the whole world, but loses his eternal soul?” And I believe that’s what Jesus meant when he said that he came to tear families apart. In other words, the path to eternal life is very often, or almost always in opposition to the mundane values of family, society, friendship and so-called “love”. That’s why those who are supposedly more spiritually advanced (like the pope, and his associates) divorce from themselves, all family connection, so that they can be servants of the greater family, the real family. In other words, they are aligned with the reality, while we, as social beings, have one foot in both camps…which is usually called “wanting to have our cake and eat it.” Of course no one can be reclusive, in that sense, unless their connection with God is strong enough to fill their heart. Otherwise we end up with priests who are child abusers, etc. But my understanding is that the message of Jesus was not about having a nice social existence while considering himself to be a good Christian. In fact, he told the wealthy pious man, to give away or sell all of his belongings, give it all to the poor, and follow him (Jesus). But the pious, good man of material means could not do it. In other words, the message of Jesus is a lot more stringent than the average Sunday church goer is willing or able to embrace. He was basically saying, “Your real life is not here. Put it aside, and follow me.” However, the church, may conceivably have watered that down in order to accommodate the masses. But that’s not the picture of how Jesus was teaching when he walked among us. Nor was he living, literally like a king in the Vatican. Big subject. Obviously going to upset a lot of people.
Nothing you have said here is wrong. And at the same time, we can look to the Holy Family and see that they were a Family that stayed together through some hard times. And we can learn by their example.
Satan wants to divide Families. Yes, you can argue that Jesus’ message did/does divide Families. Unity for the sake of unity is useless. But, so too, “blessed are the peacemakers” (Matthew 5:9).
Yes! Satan breaks up families to cause discord and dissension. And Jesus breaks up families if he wants to take one of us under his wing. The family can make us strong, or break our spirit. My parents were atheists. So I had to go my own way. My feeling is whoever helps to strengthen my faith and my walk…they are my real family.
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“They believe in Darwin’s theory of evolution…that our forefathers were monkeys”
Catholics believe this too, we have at least since 1950, if not earlier.
In 2004, a commission lead by then Cardinal Ratzinger, determined that evolution was likely true, that there was a 1st organism from which all life (including humans) descend, and that this is compatible with the faith.
Catholics have no difficulty with this, anymore than we have difficulties accepting Heliocentrism or Atomism.
”The materialist loves matter”
and as Catholic we love St. Thomas Aquinas, who pointed out nature has secondary causes and potencies. Powers god Granted them.
A seed can become a tree. In just this way, life has the capability to change if the needs demand it. And given the changing climate from the Ice age, to periods that were extremely hot like the Paleocene-Eocene , life has frequently needed to change to survive.
None of this should be taken as a challenge to faith, as St. Thomas Aquinas spoke on it, nature is guided by its own Natural laws, that God would only see fit to reveal to us in time. This is simply the complexity of the order he created, gradually unfolding before us.
Of course, all of this is speculative understanding. Individuals are concocting their theories based on what they believe scientists of the day have concluded about the nature of reality. A few hundred years ago, no one knew that “germs”, bacteria and viruses are part of nature. If someone was ill, the so-called doctors did blood-letting to let the evil spirits depart from the body. Doctors in maternity wards went from one delivering woman to another without washing their hands, and thousands of women became infected and died of childbirth fever. The people who put forward the theory of germs were considered insane and institutionalized. Today, it is common knowledge that animal flesh is carcinogenic, yet the world continues to eat the corpses of animals. Heart attacks are the number one cause of death in the United States today. But people continue to eat foods that fills our bodies with bad cholesterol which contributes to the blockage of coronary arteries. And doctors who try to educate the medical profession and the public are ostracized.
The Bible says that man is created in the image of God. But the church says that God has no form. The Bible says that God sits on a throne and wears a crown. But the church says that this is metaphoric. Jesus teaches that the highest principle of spiritual life is to love God with all of our heart with all of our strength…….but the church says that God is not a person. All this talk of ice ages and so many other ages is complete speculation, theorizing by men who are faithless. In this way we interpret scripture to comply with the speculations of the day. The Bible speaks of the hevenly host, the infinite number of angels, in spiritual bodies, that surround the Lord and glorify Him, and serve Him in so many ways. But we are down here, in the material bodies that are the cause of the birth and death, and unlimited suffering. And the church interprets scripture as saying that the Garden of Eden is on planet earth, and doesn’t see that we are all fallen angels from the spiritual dimension where there is no birth and death. Jesus talks about the “seating plan” in the spiritual realm, telling us that he is not in charge of who sits where, who is on his right side, who is on his left. But we brush all of this aside………..because we place our faith in a church that evolves it’s conceptions of reality, based on the conceptions of fallible men, instead of the reality of scripture.
We take our birth in the material realm, grow old, diseased and die. The body is put in the ground to compost, or is burned. Scripture says, “Ashes to ashes, dust to dust.”, and tells us that we are eternal spirit souls. And still mankind identifies with the material form as “me”. Ancient Vedic scriptures explain that we are fallen from the spiritual realm because we are all like the proverbial Adam and Eve. Although the spiritual realm is brimming with the heavenly host who have no experience of birth, death, old age and disease, who are all eternal souls, like us, God has placed us here, where man survives by the sweat of his brow, where we are all self-centered, exploitive, and competitive to the extent that we kill each other in wars. And we don’t know that we are in hell. Hard core prisoners don’t think about how to get out of prison. They think about how to make prison life nice for themselves within their prison society, their prison lovers, their prison pecking orders.
God sends his representatives into the spiritual insane asylum of the material world to tell us that we are completely disoriented, that we are all trying to take God’s position for ourselves, which places us in endless competition and hostilities, wars, imperialism, slavery, exploitation. But still we believe that science will solve all our problems. Jesus says, “Consider the lilies of the field…..they don’t work so hard like we do…and God supplies all of their needs.” But we look to scientific research to make our lives pleasant, which is simply a post-dated check that will never be cashed. So, instead of trying to please God with every thought, word and deed, we work very hard. We spend 20-30 years getting “educated” so that we can “get ahead” in this world of birth and death, even though we are eternal souls that never die. And because we have not used our lives for cultivating love for God, we succumb to God’s system of debits and credits, which scripture calls “sewing and reaping”, and are born here again and again. The soul who has been moral, relatively pious, is born the child of a millionaire, or is born as Prince Harry, in a castle, in a palace, with servants. And another is born into poverty, the son of a drug addict. But when scriptures speak of “karma”, we dismiss the idea, because so-called science has not embraced these concepts yet.
All of this is called hegemony. And we stand in line to receive a cracker on our tongue, given to us by a man who doesn’t know God, and may be an alcoholic or a child abuser. And we continue to stand in line, like the cattle at the slaughter house. And sit at tables and consume their flesh, without a thought about the terrible suffering and horror experienced by these missions of creatures that undergo this process every day……..and we think that we are making progress and that we are going to heaven…….while we continue to create hell on hearth in the name of our various “religions”.
RE: Your statement, my dear Brother Stephen: “The Church is the New Eve for all Baptized becoming transformed immortality for brothers and sisters in all through the The Living Waters of Baptism.”
Baptism is a ceremony.
When man and woman get married, there is a ceremony. The ceremony consists of affirmations describing the rights and obligations of both parties, and the promises that they make to each other.
But when either husband or wife does not live up to those promises and obligations……..the marriage is dissolved, or, it remains a marriage in name only.
The above is only a metaphoric description provided for making a point. Our point is that when we undergo a baptism ceremony, that is not the conclusion of our journey. It is an initiation process, just as the wedding ceremony is an initiation into the process of husband and wife devoting their lives to the welfare of each other, both materially and spiritually.
That Jesus died for taking responsibility for our sins……..this is a gift, a blessing that we have to now appreciate by leading lives that are sinless.
For example, if I am called to court because I have broken the law, and I explain to the judge that I was not aware of doing something wrong, I may be excused. But if I do the same thing a week later, and am again obliged to appear in court, I will be penalized, fined, etc.
Therefore, when we are baptized, relieved of the responsibility for our sins, if we continue to sin, thinking, “Jesus has died for my sins, therefore I can simply confess repeatedly, and not be held responsible.”, this is like using Jesus as a doormat.
Jesus, the son of God, may forgive us. But God, the Father of Jesus, will not forgive this measure of adultery.
We say, “adultery”, because when we were baptized, we have become married to Christ. And Jesus has told us that we cannot serve both God and mammon. Now that we are married to God, through the ceremony performed by His son, we cannot have relationships with mammon. This is adultery. God will not stand by, while we continue to pass our sinful citations to Jesus, so that he will foot the bill. The marriage will be annulled. We will know it in our hearts.
Therefore we have to be practical in our understanding. Jesus has forgiven us for having had a relationship with the harlot of mammon. And he has performed the ceremony by which he has married us to God. Now our responsibility is to be chaste. Salvation is not a “done deal”. Jesus is a person. We are persons. God is a person. We cannot be “rubber-stamped”, that, “Now I am saved.” This view is impractical.
Some Catholics do. I would not make the claim that “Catholics believe this.” The Church has not definitively made this claim, nor would she. As Catholics, we must believe that God created human beings. I choose to believe the Biblical account that God created man and female. God did not create apes and then human beings came from apes. Why do some Atheists believe we came from apes and not apes from humans? I do not believe either is true.
RE: “In 2004, a commission lead by then Cardinal Ratzinger, determined that evolution was likely true, that there was a 1st organism from which all life (including humans) descend, and that this is compatible with the faith.”
According to the Book of Genesis,
“Adam was created by God from the dust of the ground and Eve was created from one of Adam’s ribs****. They are described as the first man and woman, living in the Garden of Eden, and are considered the ancestors of all humanity. “
But according to Mr. Ratzinger, Adam and Eve evolved from monkeys. His point of view is not “compatible with the faith.” Soon the “cardinal” will be endorsing the “big bang theory” as the source of the universe. Scripture says that God sits on a throne. But the church has taken away His throne. Scripture says God wears a crown. But the church has taken away His crown. Now Cardinal Ratzinger wants to take away God’s power to create our bodies from the dust of the earth. He has become a disciple of Charles Darwin. If we can’t accept our scriptures……..where do we go from here? Do we all follow our own whims or the popular scientific beliefs of the day? Some people will say that we have come a long way from the beliefs of yesterday by the grace of “science”. But so-called science is one of the biggest threats to the world today, in the form of air pollution, water pollution, pesticides and insecticides, like Roundup, and food additives that is are carcinogenic. Also, science has created chemical warfare, germ warfare, and atomic bombs. We think our lives are improved by science. But there are more mass shootings, more suicides, more deranged people than ever before.
And now Ratzinger is saying that we have evolved from monkeys. In this way, the church is building the Tower of Babel.
So don’t go to it anymore. Be like me and worship God at home. You don’t need a religion to be saved, so just don’t go to Church.
Hi ES! Actually I don’t go to any church. I live in the forest away from so-called civilization. One hour of bumpy dirt roads to the nearest town. When I write like I have (above), it is not to complain. It is to point out, as you are pointing out, that people have to recognize the short-comings of institutionalized religion and begin to think for themselves. Or, at least accept some real scripture, and try to follow in a sincere way.
Just like, it is common knowledge that eating animals causes cancer. But the government will not tell the people to stop eating meat……..because the government people receive money from the slaughterhouse industry. In the same way, the church will not tell people the essential truth……because the church is more concerned about keeping membership. The church will not send the child sex abusers to prison, but puts them in positions of authority.
But…..no, I don’t go to churches…….but I am up every morning before 4:00 a.m. to do my daily rosary prayers on my prayer beads for at least 2 hours before daybreak.
Jesus says in the “Lord’s Prayer”: “Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy name.” this means that the name of God is sacred. God is present in the sound vibration of His name. In Bible, it is written: “In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God.” (paraphrase). In the spiritual dimension, there is no difference from the word and that which the word describes. In the material dimension, if I am thirsty, and I chant, “water, water, water”, this will not cleans my thirst. But in the spiritual dimension, the word and the object it describes are one and the same. Therefore Jesus says, “Hallowed by Thy name.” The name of God has all the power of God. God has many names. Even in Bible, there are some dozen names of God. Then Jesus says in the next line: “Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done, on earth, as it is in heaven.” But people don’t make the connection. Jesus is saying: “Our Father who art in heaven, your name is spiritual, sacred…….and if we make this sound vibration, it will turn this world into the spiritual world….”Thy kingdom come”…….a place in which “Thy will be done, right here on earth as it is in heaven.” Therefore there is “rosary”. The muslims call this process “tasbhi”. They repeat the names of God on their beads. And the Vaishnava sect in India, they call their string of beads a “mala”. And on their “mala” they recite the names of God. The vaishnavas call this process “japa”. And Jesus says, “Where two or more are gathered in my name, I am there, present.” Because there is no difference between God and His intimate servants, His intimate representatives. (Stephen Andrew says this repeatedly, God the Father, God the son, and Mary the mother of the son of God). The Catholics say that God has only one son. But God can have infinite sons. Bible speaks of the heavenly host, the angels. We are down here. We are the outcasts, the prodigal sons and daughters. We are in rehab, in therapy. We have to receive counseling, because we are so degraded. Therefore God sends his representatives…..and they cause problems …….for those who wish to maintain the status quo. So we usually try to kill them. They tried repeatedly to kill the Buddha. They tried repeatedly to kill Mohammed. And they tried to kill Jesus. But Jesus showed us that he is “in this world, but not of this world.” He cannot be killed. Because he is pure spirit. He has the power to create this world, and to destroy it. Because he is empowered by God Himself, with the power of God. But he is a trouble-maker. The Jews of his time (I was born to Jewish parents), the Jews of his time were operating their own amazon.com. And Jesus tipped over their business tables and said, “Get out of my Father’s house.” So they made plans to get rid of him. Because we are in the material world. This is God’s prison house. The hard core prisoners don’t want to know how to get out. They only want to know how to be in control, to be little gods.
So, everyone should vibrate the names of God on their “rosary”, on their “tasbhi”, on their “mala”, so that the dark atmosphere of the material realm becomes transformed into the light of the spiritual realm……”on earth, as it is in heaven.” Amen.
Oh Peter, my goodness….you need to message me your information again, cause I would love to have conversations with you about Spirituality (or what I call Spirituality, even though technically I don’t really care for labels cause it’s just another form of division.).
In response to some of the things you said:
This has always bothered me. Why would you want to be a member of a business that literally twists and skews values that all huemans hold in their hearts dearly? Why would you even make a business out of something that’s supposed to be sacred? I’m sorry, but you’re not doing yourself much of a service if you have to rely on Priests or anything in your external world. Yes your external can tell you all sorts of things about yourself, including what you actually believe in and what inner work you need to do, but your external is really an illusion. And, most people don’t realize that it has to be this way. I’ve always said, the 3rd Dimension is built for learning. There are so many things a hueman can do on this Earth, I mean, even if you wanted to test something out Spiritually, you can. And you don’t even need Spiritual gifts to test it out (even though everyone is Spiritually gifted, most people’s gifts just lie dormant). You just have to think a little outside the box is all. But everything about this reality can be tested, and there’s a reason for that, cause once again God loves us and He loves us so much that He has given us some of his divinity to be able to figure this stuff out for ourselves. All of our souls came straight from God Himself, so if you wanted to know something about this reality, and you’re struggling with believing in something, you can tune into Source Frequency and get your answer. It’s really not that hard, but everyone is still under this trance that the things we talk about are “New Age” and that way of thinking is very “archaic” when honestly, these teachings have been around for a long time. The problem is huemanity has decided to do away with these teachings, so when someone like you or I come along, people just look at us like we’re from another planet (although, there is some truth in that believe it or not. I know my soul is alien, same as yours).
Is that really common knowledge? Cause most people I know like to eat meat….I guess it’s common knowledge to you and I but not for others.
Because Churches are businesses, and Churches are run like businesses. And most businesses value customers cause that’s where they get their money from. I’m not saying all businesses are terrible and that we shouldn’t have them, we NEED businesses for so many reasons, even small Mom and Pop stores are good. But if you’re gonna run religion like a business, you’re gonna treat it like a business. There’s a reason why Jesus flipped tables over in the Temple, because it’s a house of worship, not some place where you spend money to get the word of God. I think Jesus would even be against tithes…that’s a Church thing, that has nothing to do with salvation LOL. And not to mention all the corruption that comes with a business too, cause let’s be real here, every business is corrupted, some more than others, but that’s because we have very rich and powerful people who basically want to treat us like cattle, so they’ve basically infiltrated everything to keep us in line and be obedient. It’s sick, but this is the truth of the world we live in, and most people are in a trance and they think everything is ok, when everything is clearly not ok!
And people have become so desensitized that they keep going to Church. Sorry but by going to Church, whether you want to admit it or not, you are handing your hard-earned money over to people who sexually abuse little boys and sometimes girls (and in some cases traffic little boys, and sometimes girls) and you are only perpetuating this blatant crime that happens every single day. But nope, I’m gonna be a good little Catholic man or woman, and I’m going to continue giving my money to these people who should be in jail or in some correctional facility. Like….I’m sorry, and I think you’ll agree Peter, that most people either don’t really know the truth, or are so ignorant that they choose to ignore a blatant problem among the masses. It’s mindblowing some days, it really is.
Cause most people don’t want to do the digging to find the truth. And, in a sense I get it, because the truth is a very ugly thing. There’s nothing beautiful about this planet, other than the nice outdoors aesthetic, but the amount of ignorance that goes on is unreal. But again, the problem is, we were not raised to question anything. Look, the truth is not completely buried, really what it boils down to is we’ve become apathetic to where, even though something deep inside says that something is really off about this reality, most people will attribute that to a demon putting doubt in their minds, when really, it’s your spirit telling you that something isn’t right about this world. But most people will just go on with their lives as if nothing happened. And what they don’t realize is that, that’s their spirit telling them that something isn’t adding up. This is why you question everything, because after you question everything enough, you realize that literally at every moment of your life, your being manipulated in some way, shape, or form, and it always happens out of subtlety. Evil is actually very subtle. How do you think we got the LGBTQ+ people? It’s because LGBTQ+ people started out very subtley. Most people in like the 60’s or 70’s just didn’t really talk about it, but those people knew that there were people out there that were like that. And then all of a sudden LGBTQ+ communities started becoming popular, all because it started out very subtley. I’m telling you, evil is the fine print on a contract, and what happens with most people when they sign a contract? Very seldom do they read the fine print! Hence why we have all of this madness going on in our world today!
@StephenAndrew Is a mystic, hands down! And I’m glad to be one of his friends!
When Jesus said He’s the Son of God, He did not mean that he is the literal Son of God. He simply means He’s a Creation or an extension of God. That’s a poorly worded phrase in The Current Bible. We are all daughters and sons of God because we all come from God. It’s not like Jesus is this special hueman being that is the one and only literal Son of God, Jesus was trying to get people to realize that they have more power than those in authority. Jesus was trying to get people to wake up and get them to realize they’re being manipulated by these evil rich people who is trying to use the divinity that everyone is born with and use it towards their destructive ends. These 7 families knew how powerful hueman beings are, so they’ve done everything they can, and have infiltrated literally everything to suppress, dull down, and snuff out the light within us. As long as people keep being manipulated, you can get them to do anything you want them to do. It takes people like you and I with a strong mind and a strong will to break out of this trance and realize that the world is basically a cesspool. It’s one big dumpster fire, and if people keep going the way they are things will only get worse before they get better….
I like how you make this distinction about vibration. Vibration is everything in this Universe, absolutely everything, and the higher you vibrate, the better your Spiritual Gifts become, and the easier it is to be in a higher density (or Dimension). That’s the other thing…even if you don’t believe in a God, Science can tell you the same d*mn thing! Yes, there’s a science to our souls called “Spirit Science.” Spirit Science explains how your soul works in tandem with your body, and how your Aura is connected to your entire body and when something happens energetically to disrupt the flow of energy in an area of your body, it’ll show up in your aura and that particular area needs to be healed through vibration and sound (at least that’s what works for me).
I dunno. This world is for the birds, cause there’s so much evil that goes on everyday, and most people don’t even realize it. Like for a while there was stuff happening underground regarding children who are kidnapped every year. You wanna know where those kids went? Cause I know where they went. The kids who are kidnapped and you never hear from again are underground with the Reptilian Race and they’re being sacrficed to some demon, or they’re being beat up, or their organs are being harvested. And most people not only disagree with that, but they think I’m making up some story and that I’m dishonoring the families who lost a child. I’m saying this because it’s true. It’s called D.U.M.B.’s tunnels, look it up! D.U.M.B. stands for Deep Underground Military Bases. There are bases where this kind of sh*t is happening to our precious children that you never hear about! That’s the real sad part! It’s terrible, all because some stupid race that has been on this planet since it was first terraformed decided that they want to be superior to us huemans. They may as well be the Biblical equivalent to demons, because the Reptilian Race doesn’t have empathy. If someone gets killed or gets killed cause they are in their way, the Reptilian Race doesn’t feel bad for them. If they want something, they go after it, regardless of how many people die in the process. There’s a reason why some of the most inhumane stuff exists, and that’s because some of the stuff that goes on isn’t being caused by huemans, but by aliens or inter-dimensional beings that are able to shapeshift (Like Reptilians).
Thank you once again Stephen for your beautiful mind. When God made you, He smiled and said “You’re gonna do so much good in this broken world!”
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Disney World has tunnels beneath it. “The Happiest Place on Earth” Is the most deceptively happiest place on Earth. Even the cast members can’t go through certain tunnels. Where do you think those lead?
And…Disney was a Freemason. If you know, you know!
Telling you man, the writing is literally on the wall, and most people can’t make out what it says……
We have to accept that the material world is hell…….literally. There are worse planets in the material world than planet earth, but still, this is a place of birth and death. There is no death in the spiritual world. We are here. We’re all in therapy. We’re hypnotized, forced to believe that “this material body is me.” Actually we are eternal spirit souls. We never grow old, are never diseased, never die. But we experience these things in the material world. It’s a bad dream. A nightmare. Nothing is happening to the eternal spirit soul. But for us, it all feels real. And the only function, of all of it, is to induce the rebellious spirit soul, to bring him to the point of inquiring after a solution, to begin to ask, “Why am I suffering? What is the purpose of life? What is the solution to this nightmare of life in the material world?”
There are people who say that they are happy, content. But they all live in fear. Their houses are insured, their cars are insured, their doors are locked, their computers and phones need passwords, we are all surrounded by scams, pick-pockets, and government leaders who promise “government for the people” but won’t use tax dollars for free medical and free university education. But they uses tax dollars to build bombs and guns. The U.S. has some 750 military bases in different parts of the world…….to protect the economic prospects of multinational corporations.
And God, who is in everyone’s heart, enables the inquisitive soul, that is beginning to question his lot, to become attracted to scripture. Different scriptures for different souls. But the conclusion is the same: surrender out heart to God, with feelings of gratitude and love.
Then the spiritual practices begin. Spiritual practices for purifying the heart. And when realization blossoms, the soul understands by direct perception that, “I am not this material body. I am an indestructible, eternal spirit soul. I am an eternal loving servant of God.” At that time he understands, “I am in this world. But I am not of this world.” At that time he becomes fearless. At that time he becomes indifferent to the so-called pleasures and pains of the material body. His pleasure is an inside job. Sometimes he dances and sings, indifferent to social conventions. And the world sees him as mad.
An honest look at the history of man on planet earth (as much as we have records) speaks only of war, slavery, imperialism in India, in South America, in Africa, Australia, of exploitation, of people in factories, in mines, of people dying is terrible ways, of sex trade rings, of drug rings, of prisons, of millions of innocent creatures experimented on in laboratories in terrible unthinkable ways, of millions of animals having their throats cut in slaughterhouses, where we can’t hear their screams, and smell their blood, where we wear their skins in the form of our shoes, our belts, our wallets and purses, our jackets, and our furniture.
And when God sends his representatives to educate us, to show us how to qualify ourselves for returning to the spiritual realm……their lives are in danger……because they are bad for business……they are trouble makers……a threat to the status quo of institutions that exploit us.
The only way out, the only hope is to accept the understanding that the name of God is “hallowed”, sacred, and that if the people of the planet begin to chant God’s holy name, individually and congregational, the result will be: “Thy kingdom come, thy will be done…on earth, as it is in heaven.” The holy name of God is our shelter, our protection, our source of illumination, and the way in which our dormant feelings of spontaneous love for God becomes re-awakened. Love of God is the only qualification for taking our next birth in the spiritual realm. If we leave this body, at the end of this material lifetime, and there are still material desires in our hearts……..we will have to come back, to repeat the course. Because “Home is where the heart is.”
This whole world is God’s Disneyland of make-believe. We are God’s eternal servants who have rebelled, like Adam and Eve, and are placed here for our redemption. Amen.
O.K. we agree on a lot of what you are describing. You speak of “spiritual science”. This is where the conversation has to go. First one has to see clearly the anomalies of life in the material dimension. And he has to understand, as Jesus says, “I am in this world, but I am not of this world.” And then he has to understand spiritual science……..the process by which the dormant love of God in our hearts can be awakened. And then we have to “get down”, and decide how we want to use our time and our energy. We need the basics. Some food to eat, Some shelter from the elements, a change of clothing, 6 feet space to lie down and take rest. But once the basics are in place, keep life simple, and use our energy for spiritual practice, spiritual science. Not wealth, and more wealth. Jesus warns: the wealthy man will not go back home, to the spiritual world, any more than one can pass a camel through the eye of the needle.
You talk about the “hegemony” of the material world. The TV, the news channels, the schools, the universities, the media………all telling us what the powers that be want us to believe, the values that they want us to embrace, so that we stay locked up in the prison of illusory conceptions. Spend the first 25 years going to school, then work very hard, buy a house, a car, raise a family, max out your credit cards, grow old and make a will, and die. Coming into this world naked, with nothing. And leaving taking nothing with us. Sweat and toil. Because we are out of the Garden of Eden, the spiritual realm of reality. People will say this negative. But you are asking them to open their eyes to the reality of the situation. But very few have that kind of integrity or courage. Hard-core prisoners, more intent on how to improve prison life than thinking how to qualify for getting out. Jesus talked about it. He said that if you really want to be a spiritual person, you will receive all kinds of negative backlash from the people of the world.
You talk about the meaning of being “a son of God”. The sun in the sky …….. emits trillions of atoms of light energy. They are all sun, in quality. But they are not the Source. We are all God in quality. But we are not the Source. We are like spiritual atoms. And we have an eternal relationship with God. He only created us for one purpose. He enjoys being loved. We are like leaves on the tree of life. In the material world we try to water ourselves. Or water the other leaves. But if one leaf waters the root of the tree, he is the best servant of all the leaves, fruits and branches. Cultivation of love of God is the highest welfare work. When our dormant love of God is reawakened, “our cup will runneth over”. In the material world, without a living sense of our reciprocal relationship with God, we are seeking satisfaction through the service of our senses, subtle and gross. And everyone feels incomplete. The billionaire feels that he needs another billion.
Spiritual science includes the do’s and the don’ts. We have to understand the things, the habits that keep us in ignorance, and the practices that wake up our spiritual potential.
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Hare Krishna! (“God is loving, God is beautiful, God is great”)
Peter
“Catholic filmmaker Sam Sorich” is making a documentary to investigate a claim by “a former CIA official that the Vatican holds evidence of the existence of non-human intelligence — and he does not mean angels” (or AI, I guess), according to a new Catholic News Service report published in OSV (Our Sunday Visitor) News ( Catholic filmmaker investigates UFO mysteries at the Vatican - OSV News ).
The Vatican Observatory staff wouldn’t talk to Sorich, and “several professors at pontifical universities in Rome” compared UFOs to unicorns and dragons.
Would the professors say that to aircraft pilots? Maybe.
Pilots’ reports of unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) jumped from fewer than ten per year in 2000-2022 to more than 60 in 2023 and more than 80 in 2024, according to the SCU [Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies] Review, 31 Oct. 2024 (https://www.explorescu.org/post/scu-review-5-4), citing numbers from the National UFO Reporting Center, which received the pilots’ reports.
“Of course, all of this is speculative understanding”
It’s not speculative at all.
The same test we use to show human to human lineages, called Single Ncleotide Polymorphisms, shows life is inter-related.
It’s the same test, utilizing the same science, many times done in the same labs as the one that tells you your genealogy is from Scotland or Arabia.
Its simple, and self evident. There’s a pattern of one off changes in the base nucleotides, and if the patterns match, you’re related, and the % match shows how far back in time you have to go to find the genetic link.
If you want a primer on what it is we know now, I highly suggest “The Language of God” by Francis Collins, who there-in describes his evidence for God, but also, the evidence for evolution. Which he can describe quite well, as he was the director of the 1st Human Genome Project – the project to map Human DNA.