Hi Literalman! I like your tone. I feel that the real “revelation” is the experience in the heart… the experience that when we open our hearts to God, we have a sense of reciprocation of love that makes us feel, “This is what I have been searching for all of my life.” When we have this experience, even if only intermittently (because I am a beginner who is distracted and forgetful) this is all the proof we require.
God reveals Himself to us as His Son. And His Son reveals God to us, not simply by speaking, but by assuming the role of one who has so much love for the Father, that he says, “Not my will, but Thy will be done.” In this way, He not only tells. us about the Father, but is a practical demonstration of love for the Father, a practical demonstration of loving service to the Father. In this way Jesus describes himself to be like unto an oxen who is yoked in service to the Master. He encourages us, “I am wearing this yoke. Take my yoke. It is very nice…not heavy.” In this way God takes the form of the servant of God, so that we can follow in His footsteps.
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Too confusing for me. Why is there always a question, do you believe in God??Everyone believes in somekind of higher power of course its God all that bologne about aliens, ai,et are just a way of them saying because they cant see him, but we walk in faith, not by site!!!
The atheists relationship with “science” is different from the theists relationship with God. The thiest relates to God as our loving master, and the Supreme Controller. The atheist relates to “science” with the orientation that "We are the masters, and through “science” we can be the supreme controller. The scientist is building "the Tower of Babel. In this way, no one understand anyone else, and the world is filled with wars, imperialism, slavery, exploitation. In fact, the scientist envies the position of God and wants to usurp that position for himself through his so-called science. Actually, genuine spiritual life is the real science, and each of us has to make the experiment in order to arrive at the right conclusion.
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The atheist is demonic. He doesn’t mind thinking there are beings coming from other planets. That is another diversion, just like going to a night club, or watching movies on Netflicks. Anything to avoid thinking about God. It doesn’t mean he is broad-minded. We are only broad-minded when we make room for God within our hearts. the atheist is small-minded , ungrateful, filled with false pride, unable to acknowledge the glory of the Lord. But he is willing to consider beings from other planets…maybe he can go to the clubs with them, maybe find a girl-friend. Anything to avoid praising God, bowing down to God, desiring to serve God with his thoughts, words and deeds. That’s why there are those who believe in Aliens…but not in God.
I just listened to an interview with Ed Feser, a philosophy professor and I think you would enjoy it.
Hi Cade! Very long program (about an hour) but I caught some 10, 15 minutes. Jesus says in bible that he didn’t come to patch families to gather, but to find the one in the family that would follow him, and tear the family apart (paraphrase). Also, my understanding is that we are eternal souls. Eternal means no beginning and no end. But for the moment, we are in one family or another, for the tiniest speck of eternal time. Our real family is One. God is our eternal Father, and we are all His children. Children of God. But of course there is a tendency for us on earth to get all caught up in these very temporal relationships. The essential criterion, I feel, is that if family life is conducive to our spiritual growth, great! And if not…“what profitith a man if he gains the whole world, but loses his eternal soul?” And I believe that’s what Jesus meant when he said that he came to tear families apart. In other words, the path to eternal life is very often, or almost always in opposition to the mundane values of family, society, friendship and so-called “love”. That’s why those who are supposedly more spiritually advanced (like the pope, and his associates) divorce from themselves, all family connection, so that they can be servants of the greater family, the real family. In other words, they are aligned with the reality, while we, as social beings, have one foot in both camps…which is usually called “wanting to have our cake and eat it.” Of course no one can be reclusive, in that sense, unless their connection with God is strong enough to fill their heart. Otherwise we end up with priests who are child abusers, etc. But my understanding is that the message of Jesus was not about having a nice social existence while considering himself to be a good Christian. In fact, he told the wealthy pious man, to give away or sell all of his belongings, give it all to the poor, and follow him (Jesus). But the pious, good man of material means could not do it. In other words, the message of Jesus is a lot more stringent than the average Sunday church goer is willing or able to embrace. He was basically saying, “Your real life is not here. Put it aside, and follow me.” However, the church, may conceivably have watered that down in order to accommodate the masses. But that’s not the picture of how Jesus was teaching when he walked among us. Nor was he living, literally like a king in the Vatican. Big subject. Obviously going to upset a lot of people.
Nothing you have said here is wrong. And at the same time, we can look to the Holy Family and see that they were a Family that stayed together through some hard times. And we can learn by their example.
Satan wants to divide Families. Yes, you can argue that Jesus’ message did/does divide Families. Unity for the sake of unity is useless. But, so too, “blessed are the peacemakers” (Matthew 5:9).
Yes! Satan breaks up families to cause discord and dissension. And Jesus breaks up families if he wants to take one of us under his wing. The family can make us strong, or break our spirit. My parents were atheists. So I had to go my own way. My feeling is whoever helps to strengthen my faith and my walk…they are my real family.
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“They believe in Darwin’s theory of evolution…that our forefathers were monkeys”
Catholics believe this too, we have at least since 1950, if not earlier.
In 2004, a commission lead by then Cardinal Ratzinger, determined that evolution was likely true, that there was a 1st organism from which all life (including humans) descend, and that this is compatible with the faith.
Catholics have no difficulty with this, anymore than we have difficulties accepting Heliocentrism or Atomism.
”The materialist loves matter”
and as Catholic we love St. Thomas Aquinas, who pointed out nature has secondary causes and potencies. Powers god Granted them.
A seed can become a tree. In just this way, life has the capability to change if the needs demand it. And given the changing climate from the Ice age, to periods that were extremely hot like the Paleocene-Eocene , life has frequently needed to change to survive.
None of this should be taken as a challenge to faith, as St. Thomas Aquinas spoke on it, nature is guided by its own Natural laws, that God would only see fit to reveal to us in time. This is simply the complexity of the order he created, gradually unfolding before us.
Peace to all,
Aliens are Gods preexisting alive and become living inside of the created flesh in all mankind becoming through One Body for all becoming again in all One Family.
Through faith we can become again but without logic we will never know how creation becoming again is done.
Athiest have a father and the name is Science, a different fathers name of the Same God of Creation. Athiest do not even know they believe in God, OMNiLogically.
Natures cause is failed choice and only through fulfilled choice can one see statically undefiled creation becoming again in all One Family.
St Thomas’ causes and potencies to him are uncomprehendable without logic.
Cardinal Ratzinger verifies failed choice changing life and only with respect to the laws in life allowed through failed DNA choice order and without logic Cardinal Ratzinger cannot understand fulfilled undefiled unfailing choice, becoming again in all.
The limited minds of man and finite failed discipline do not allow man to see God and only OMNiLogically can new eyes see God, fully.
Logically St Thomas does not see The God from the Faith of Abraham correctly, and The Great Saint only sees the Holy Spirit faithfully, not in real timlessness.
When a soul can see the Mind of God becoming again through two natures statically undeflied timelessly unfailing dynamically pulsing through His Passion then can the soul see the Real Logical Family of God.
Can we get a Glory Hallelujah, brothers and sisters, God is good, Amen.
That Stephen, always something? I know…
I got the blue shoes goin’ on!
Peace always,
Stephen
Of course, all of this is speculative understanding. Individuals are concocting their theories based on what they believe scientists of the day have concluded about the nature of reality. A few hundred years ago, no one knew that “germs”, bacteria and viruses are part of nature. If someone was ill, the so-called doctors did blood-letting to let the evil spirits depart from the body. Doctors in maternity wards went from one delivering woman to another without washing their hands, and thousands of women became infected and died of childbirth fever. The people who put forward the theory of germs were considered insane and institutionalized. Today, it is common knowledge that animal flesh is carcinogenic, yet the world continues to eat the corpses of animals. Heart attacks are the number one cause of death in the United States today. But people continue to eat foods that fills our bodies with bad cholesterol which contributes to the blockage of coronary arteries. And doctors who try to educate the medical profession and the public are ostracized.
The Bible says that man is created in the image of God. But the church says that God has no form. The Bible says that God sits on a throne and wears a crown. But the church says that this is metaphoric. Jesus teaches that the highest principle of spiritual life is to love God with all of our heart with all of our strength…….but the church says that God is not a person. All this talk of ice ages and so many other ages is complete speculation, theorizing by men who are faithless. In this way we interpret scripture to comply with the speculations of the day. The Bible speaks of the hevenly host, the infinite number of angels, in spiritual bodies, that surround the Lord and glorify Him, and serve Him in so many ways. But we are down here, in the material bodies that are the cause of the birth and death, and unlimited suffering. And the church interprets scripture as saying that the Garden of Eden is on planet earth, and doesn’t see that we are all fallen angels from the spiritual dimension where there is no birth and death. Jesus talks about the “seating plan” in the spiritual realm, telling us that he is not in charge of who sits where, who is on his right side, who is on his left. But we brush all of this aside………..because we place our faith in a church that evolves it’s conceptions of reality, based on the conceptions of fallible men, instead of the reality of scripture.
We take our birth in the material realm, grow old, diseased and die. The body is put in the ground to compost, or is burned. Scripture says, “Ashes to ashes, dust to dust.”, and tells us that we are eternal spirit souls. And still mankind identifies with the material form as “me”. Ancient Vedic scriptures explain that we are fallen from the spiritual realm because we are all like the proverbial Adam and Eve. Although the spiritual realm is brimming with the heavenly host who have no experience of birth, death, old age and disease, who are all eternal souls, like us, God has placed us here, where man survives by the sweat of his brow, where we are all self-centered, exploitive, and competitive to the extent that we kill each other in wars. And we don’t know that we are in hell. Hard core prisoners don’t think about how to get out of prison. They think about how to make prison life nice for themselves within their prison society, their prison lovers, their prison pecking orders.
God sends his representatives into the spiritual insane asylum of the material world to tell us that we are completely disoriented, that we are all trying to take God’s position for ourselves, which places us in endless competition and hostilities, wars, imperialism, slavery, exploitation. But still we believe that science will solve all our problems. Jesus says, “Consider the lilies of the field…..they don’t work so hard like we do…and God supplies all of their needs.” But we look to scientific research to make our lives pleasant, which is simply a post-dated check that will never be cashed. So, instead of trying to please God with every thought, word and deed, we work very hard. We spend 20-30 years getting “educated” so that we can “get ahead” in this world of birth and death, even though we are eternal souls that never die. And because we have not used our lives for cultivating love for God, we succumb to God’s system of debits and credits, which scripture calls “sewing and reaping”, and are born here again and again. The soul who has been moral, relatively pious, is born the child of a millionaire, or is born as Prince Harry, in a castle, in a palace, with servants. And another is born into poverty, the son of a drug addict. But when scriptures speak of “karma”, we dismiss the idea, because so-called science has not embraced these concepts yet.
All of this is called hegemony. And we stand in line to receive a cracker on our tongue, given to us by a man who doesn’t know God, and may be an alcoholic or a child abuser. And we continue to stand in line, like the cattle at the slaughter house. And sit at tables and consume their flesh, without a thought about the terrible suffering and horror experienced by these missions of creatures that undergo this process every day……..and we think that we are making progress and that we are going to heaven…….while we continue to create hell on hearth in the name of our various “religions”.
Peace to all,
What is Blasphemy, some ask?
To me what is not blasphemy is How to change dust to brothers and sisters becoming Sons and Daughters of God becoming again in all One God?
The God from The Faith of Abraham is the Faith in the God that unites both natures, Spirit and Life in One Catholic Family One God in being.
The two Sacraments from death to life are Baptism sanctified through the flesh from Mary in Penance from the Powers of The incorruptible Holy Sprit Family and for Jesus in the New Adam becoming through The Christ from Sacrifice through Penance forgiven in all for Glorification and Transfiguration becoming again for One Family, in all, I believe.
From all of the logical formulas through the Wondrous Mysteries of the Faith from Abraham we become again in all One Family.
Gods of Powers create and transform, glorify and transfigure all One Holy Spirit Family One God in being
The Church is the New Eve for all Baptized becoming transformed immortality for brothers and sisters in all through the The Living Waters of Baptism.
The New Living Sacrifice is the bread and wine, The Host, The Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of the Holy Family One God in being becoming for all from Sacrifice through Penance forgiven from Confession in hearing the Words of Absolution forgiven and in Communion with Him Confirmed through the Will of The Father re-Sanctified for all becoming now Sons and Daughters of God becoming again glorified and transfigured in all Creation One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.
We know already we always talk good about the Family of God, I believe.
Can I get a hallelujah, great and wonderful God amen glory, brothers, and sisters
Peace always,
Stephen
RE: Your statement, my dear Brother Stephen: “The Church is the New Eve for all Baptized becoming transformed immortality for brothers and sisters in all through the The Living Waters of Baptism.”
Baptism is a ceremony.
When man and woman get married, there is a ceremony. The ceremony consists of affirmations describing the rights and obligations of both parties, and the promises that they make to each other.
But when either husband or wife does not live up to those promises and obligations……..the marriage is dissolved, or, it remains a marriage in name only.
The above is only a metaphoric description provided for making a point. Our point is that when we undergo a baptism ceremony, that is not the conclusion of our journey. It is an initiation process, just as the wedding ceremony is an initiation into the process of husband and wife devoting their lives to the welfare of each other, both materially and spiritually.
That Jesus died for taking responsibility for our sins……..this is a gift, a blessing that we have to now appreciate by leading lives that are sinless.
For example, if I am called to court because I have broken the law, and I explain to the judge that I was not aware of doing something wrong, I may be excused. But if I do the same thing a week later, and am again obliged to appear in court, I will be penalized, fined, etc.
Therefore, when we are baptized, relieved of the responsibility for our sins, if we continue to sin, thinking, “Jesus has died for my sins, therefore I can simply confess repeatedly, and not be held responsible.”, this is like using Jesus as a doormat.
Jesus, the son of God, may forgive us. But God, the Father of Jesus, will not forgive this measure of adultery.
We say, “adultery”, because when we were baptized, we have become married to Christ. And Jesus has told us that we cannot serve both God and mammon. Now that we are married to God, through the ceremony performed by His son, we cannot have relationships with mammon. This is adultery. God will not stand by, while we continue to pass our sinful citations to Jesus, so that he will foot the bill. The marriage will be annulled. We will know it in our hearts.
Therefore we have to be practical in our understanding. Jesus has forgiven us for having had a relationship with the harlot of mammon. And he has performed the ceremony by which he has married us to God. Now our responsibility is to be chaste. Salvation is not a “done deal”. Jesus is a person. We are persons. God is a person. We cannot be “rubber-stamped”, that, “Now I am saved.” This view is impractical.
Peace to all,
The Christ is a spiritual marriage from the incorruptible spirit in the New Adam through the immortal flesh of the New Eve, becoming the two nature One Body of Christ in all mankind.
OmniLogically this is what the church does not understand. And through the church by faith are we saved in what the Catholic Church believes bound by the Moses seat.
But logically, I believe the Holy Spirit is a family of God, leaving room for Mary in the Trinity and mother of God together with the father and the son in one Holy Spirit family. We’re not arguing the faith in the Catholic Church just are logically generalizing The Holy Spirit is the family of God pre-existing.
The Holy Father concluded his address by reflecting on the witness of the martyrs and encouraging all to ask for the Blessed Virgin Mary’s intercession in every trial.
Mary’s co-redemptive powers transform us becoming immortality into the New Eve through the Catholic Church.
We become through failed mortal flesh from the corrupt spirit in Adam and Eve, reborn, rebirth for all becoming Baptized transformed into the New Eve through immortality of the flesh sanctified from the Holy Spirit Family into the Catholic Church.
Rebirth and salvation is through the new eve from the new Adam, becoming the Christ in all mankind becoming again in all One Holy Spirit Family One God in being
Truly saved this from Sacrifice through Penance, forgiven to be able to become again from mortality through death and resurrection immortalized glorified and transfigured in one Holy Spirit family one God in being.
Peace always,
Stephen
Some Catholics do. I would not make the claim that “Catholics believe this.” The Church has not definitively made this claim, nor would she. As Catholics, we must believe that God created human beings. I choose to believe the Biblical account that God created man and female. God did not create apes and then human beings came from apes. Why do some Atheists believe we came from apes and not apes from humans? I do not believe either is true.
RE: “In 2004, a commission lead by then Cardinal Ratzinger, determined that evolution was likely true, that there was a 1st organism from which all life (including humans) descend, and that this is compatible with the faith.”
According to the Book of Genesis,
“Adam was created by God from the dust of the ground and Eve was created from one of Adam’s ribs****. They are described as the first man and woman, living in the Garden of Eden, and are considered the ancestors of all humanity. “
But according to Mr. Ratzinger, Adam and Eve evolved from monkeys. His point of view is not “compatible with the faith.” Soon the “cardinal” will be endorsing the “big bang theory” as the source of the universe. Scripture says that God sits on a throne. But the church has taken away His throne. Scripture says God wears a crown. But the church has taken away His crown. Now Cardinal Ratzinger wants to take away God’s power to create our bodies from the dust of the earth. He has become a disciple of Charles Darwin. If we can’t accept our scriptures……..where do we go from here? Do we all follow our own whims or the popular scientific beliefs of the day? Some people will say that we have come a long way from the beliefs of yesterday by the grace of “science”. But so-called science is one of the biggest threats to the world today, in the form of air pollution, water pollution, pesticides and insecticides, like Roundup, and food additives that is are carcinogenic. Also, science has created chemical warfare, germ warfare, and atomic bombs. We think our lives are improved by science. But there are more mass shootings, more suicides, more deranged people than ever before.
And now Ratzinger is saying that we have evolved from monkeys. In this way, the church is building the Tower of Babel.
So don’t go to it anymore. Be like me and worship God at home. You don’t need a religion to be saved, so just don’t go to Church.
Peace to all,
Spirits are everywhere with a different father’s name of the same one God in being a family
Atheist believe in logical intelligence but failed logical intelligence includes choice to not love and fulfilled. Logical intelligence has the choice to love only and to love with only the most love.. logically the DNA of failed big bang creation will not have a chance to fail, becoming again logical intelligence undefiled through both natures for all souls created, transformed, glorified and transfigured in one family
The church is the logical body, the Catholic Church is the part of the Christ that is the body the flesh through spirit and corruption in another nature through the Christ becoming again From the spirit in one family.
How we become United is manifested from the spirit through the created souls of all for the flesh, becoming in one body, through both natures, the whole body to become through to nature, spirit, and life becoming again one family
Peace always,
Stephen
Hi ES! Actually I don’t go to any church. I live in the forest away from so-called civilization. One hour of bumpy dirt roads to the nearest town. When I write like I have (above), it is not to complain. It is to point out, as you are pointing out, that people have to recognize the short-comings of institutionalized religion and begin to think for themselves. Or, at least accept some real scripture, and try to follow in a sincere way.
Just like, it is common knowledge that eating animals causes cancer. But the government will not tell the people to stop eating meat……..because the government people receive money from the slaughterhouse industry. In the same way, the church will not tell people the essential truth……because the church is more concerned about keeping membership. The church will not send the child sex abusers to prison, but puts them in positions of authority.
But…..no, I don’t go to churches…….but I am up every morning before 4:00 a.m. to do my daily rosary prayers on my prayer beads for at least 2 hours before daybreak.
Jesus says in the “Lord’s Prayer”: “Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy name.” this means that the name of God is sacred. God is present in the sound vibration of His name. In Bible, it is written: “In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God.” (paraphrase). In the spiritual dimension, there is no difference from the word and that which the word describes. In the material dimension, if I am thirsty, and I chant, “water, water, water”, this will not cleans my thirst. But in the spiritual dimension, the word and the object it describes are one and the same. Therefore Jesus says, “Hallowed by Thy name.” The name of God has all the power of God. God has many names. Even in Bible, there are some dozen names of God. Then Jesus says in the next line: “Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done, on earth, as it is in heaven.” But people don’t make the connection. Jesus is saying: “Our Father who art in heaven, your name is spiritual, sacred…….and if we make this sound vibration, it will turn this world into the spiritual world….”Thy kingdom come”…….a place in which “Thy will be done, right here on earth as it is in heaven.” Therefore there is “rosary”. The muslims call this process “tasbhi”. They repeat the names of God on their beads. And the Vaishnava sect in India, they call their string of beads a “mala”. And on their “mala” they recite the names of God. The vaishnavas call this process “japa”. And Jesus says, “Where two or more are gathered in my name, I am there, present.” Because there is no difference between God and His intimate servants, His intimate representatives. (Stephen Andrew says this repeatedly, God the Father, God the son, and Mary the mother of the son of God). The Catholics say that God has only one son. But God can have infinite sons. Bible speaks of the heavenly host, the angels. We are down here. We are the outcasts, the prodigal sons and daughters. We are in rehab, in therapy. We have to receive counseling, because we are so degraded. Therefore God sends his representatives…..and they cause problems …….for those who wish to maintain the status quo. So we usually try to kill them. They tried repeatedly to kill the Buddha. They tried repeatedly to kill Mohammed. And they tried to kill Jesus. But Jesus showed us that he is “in this world, but not of this world.” He cannot be killed. Because he is pure spirit. He has the power to create this world, and to destroy it. Because he is empowered by God Himself, with the power of God. But he is a trouble-maker. The Jews of his time (I was born to Jewish parents), the Jews of his time were operating their own amazon.com. And Jesus tipped over their business tables and said, “Get out of my Father’s house.” So they made plans to get rid of him. Because we are in the material world. This is God’s prison house. The hard core prisoners don’t want to know how to get out. They only want to know how to be in control, to be little gods.
So, everyone should vibrate the names of God on their “rosary”, on their “tasbhi”, on their “mala”, so that the dark atmosphere of the material realm becomes transformed into the light of the spiritual realm……”on earth, as it is in heaven.” Amen.