Have Catholics forgotten?
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I take back what I said earlier about you not asking questions. You have asked a question, rhetorical from your point-of-view, but a question.
The True Catholic- hiding from everything Biblicalā¦
@DLW showed you in the Bible the Holy Trinity, but you replied with memes. Clearly, you belong to an organized group who create Memes that support their/your ideology. I will wait to see your answer to my question about where you deconstructed to, so that I can get a better understanding of where you are coming from.
I donāt see it!
āDeconstructed?ā
You mean āEyes Openedā?
Deconstructionism is very popular right now. Many Christian Musicians, Authors, and Pastors are deconstructing, which simply means that they are looking at what theyāve been taught and then abandoning it for something else. Often they will try to evangelize their new-found something to those who hold their former beliefs.
For some they deconstruct to their political views (LGBTQA.i.+ is a big one). For others it might be to Anti-theism (because it is not enough to just be agnostic).
For you, I believe you have deconstructed to Nontrinitarianism, but what I am unsure of is whether you have fallen to a denomination which teaches this, or an online community that teaches this, or if you are a ājust me and my Bibleā Christian (self-taught and make all your memes yourself indecently).
Do you go to Church? Do you have a Wife and Children? Or are you all alone? Why does this matter? There was a famous Christian Author who wrote books about Christian dating and Marriage. He deconstructed after he and his Wife were getting Divorced. There are countless Christian Recording Artist who deconstructed after wrestling with their sÄxual identity. Has something happened in your life that has caused you to view the world with slanted glasses.
It is good to question things with boldness. This is how we are either strengthened or come to different conclusions, which are good when they lead to the truth. But, when they lead us to our own selfish desires, this is when it is not good.
In your case, it is a little different than someone who simply wants to justify living a certain lifestyle or someone who feels like a fraud, because they promoted something for so long, only to fail at the very thing they were seen to be an expert in or that they had made their identity.
I think most deconstructionists are struggling with this, identity. Who am I? What do I believe? Does what I believe prevent me from being who I want to be? It [r]evolves around this lens of self. But, in your case, you are questioning, Who is God? A question that many have pondered throughout the ages. Has God reveled Himself to man? My Brother deconstructed to Deism, which has led him to what he refers to as Multi-dimensionalism (that he can become a god as he levels up various dimensions). Again, an idea that focuses on this idea of self.
Why are you so fervent about convincing Catholic Christians that Jesus is not God? That the Holy Trinity is untrue? Is it because you believe in what you believe to be true? Is it because you have been wronged by the Catholic Church and, as you say, your eyes have been opened? Opened to what? That is what I am trying to understand.
You constantly are saying that the Holy Trinity is not in the Bible. We have shown you that it is in the Bible, though not explicitly stated as āThe Holy Trinity.ā You have posted memes that tell you how you must think or that mock what we believe, but you have not convinced anyone of your interpretation.
I have asked you a few questions here in regards to your deconstructional journey. Once we learn a little more about one another then maybe respect towards each otherās perspective may naturally follow.
Thanks for explaining it!
But āWe have shown you that it is in the Bibleā is simply not true.
Jesus PROVED it.
Proved what? Iām still not sure what it is you believe. Only what you do not believe. Can you explain to me what you do believe?
Here is what I got so far:
- You believe that Jesus is not God
- You believe that the Holy Spirit is not God
- Iām unclear if you believe in One God or Three Gods
- I a m unclear if you believe in Modalism or something else
Can you confirm the things here that you do believe?
In your own words, explain to me what you believe. I do not get my theology from memes. Memes are for mocking and hyperbole.
What Jesus said in that graphic.
Jesus makes Memes? Or do you believe that the person who made that meme is divinely inspired? Do you put your authority in Memes? āIn Memes I trustā?
What a SLOPPY diversion!
Fine. Jesus is fully human and fully divine. Jesus is also the second person of the Trinity. When Jesus it Praying to the Father, He is Praying to the first person of the Holy Trinity. I know the Muslim argument that Jesus cannot Pray to Himself and therefore he cannot be God, but this is a misunderstanding of the Holy Trinity.
May I ask why you have not deconstructed to Islam? Or maybe you have? You still have not answered my questions about where you have deconstructed to, so I am filling in the gaps. It would be better for you to fill in these gaps than for me to speculate.
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You just canāt FOCUS on scripture.
Peace to all,
To me so true in logic and the use of the Word āItsā is the power, And with all do respect, āitsā should be referenced to as āThe Power of The Holy Spirit Person and God of Power of Glorification and Transfigurationā used to assist as a separate being but equal in the power of the two other persons of the Trinity, The Father and God of Creation and The Son and God of Delivery and Transformation, and together as The One God in Being.
In logic and from the Father of Faith, Abraham, Isaac the son of Sarah and Ishmael the son of Hagar became cousins we, all mankind becomes again Brothers in the fulfilled Faith and Morality ending the contention and strife through Jesus in the intelligence of Creation as The Christ delivering fulfilled faith and mortality of the intelligence of Creation and The Will of The Creator and God for The Father and God as the Will of Creation and in the Person of The Holy Spirit conceived in logic and faith through the Immaculate Conception and delivered in the Virgin Birth through the Power of the Holy Spirit and the One Mother, joining in logic through faith and morality fulfilled in faith and morality for Sarah and Isaac, Isaacās name means āālaughter,āā and Sarah expresses her joy at his birth. God has done the unbelievable. He has made laughter for her. And Hagar and Ishmael, In the Bible, Ishmael is the son of Abraham and Hagar, God promises to bless Ishmael, make him fruitful, and multiply his descendants. God also says that Ishmael will be the father of twelve princes and Ishmael was cast out after the birth of Isaac. Ishmael is considered the forebear of 12 Arabian tribes. In Islamic tradition, this gave rise to the āTwelve Tribes of Ishmaelā, Arab tribes from which the early Muslims were descended.
In logic and all rationality, through Mary we are transformed into immortality and incorruption by the New Adam, all mankind Baptized, transformed immortal and incorruptible through Jesus in the intelligence of infallible creation as one in being together through the Son and God for the Father and God through The Christ conceived by the Power of the Holy Spirit for all mankind from the Power of the Holy Spirit Person and God becoming again glorified and transfigured again into the one God in being.
Todayās Reading Luke 12:50-53
29th week in Ordinary Time AD
There is a baptism with which I must be baptized,
and how great is my anguish until it is accomplished!
Do you think that I have come to establish peace on the earth?
No, I tell you, but rather division.
From now on a household of five will be divided,
three against two and two against three;
a father will be divided against his son
and a son against his father,
a mother against her daughter
and a daughter against her mother,
a mother-in-law against her daughter-in-law
and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.ā
In logic and through faith, allegiance to Him will mean alienation from those who rebel against Him ā even among family members.
We know we have to look at all mankind as Sonās of God and Brothers of Christ through the one Mother of God when Mary said to Bernadette, āI Am The Immaculate Conception.ā To me in logic and through faith, the will of Creation became to The First Christ and Person of Mary in the will of Creation in the flesh and is Mary in 0AD Anno Domini (Latin for the beginning of Church Time) when Mary said, āLet it be not my will but Your Will be Doneā. And in 0AD, same year in 9 months logically is when The Christ is born through the Immaculate Conception in the Virgin Birth of The Christ, conceived by the Person of the Holy Spirit through the Person of Jesus becoming the Christ in all mankind.
To me the logic of fulfilled creation becomes from created mortal flesh and corrupt spirits in the minds of men becoming the intelligence of the universe manifesting immortality and incorruptibility from the power of the intelligence of creation through the becoming immortal flesh and incorruptible spirit delivered in the Ark of the New Covenant from the Power of the Holy Spirit through the Immaculate Conception for the Virgin Birth of The Christ becoming in all mankind and in the second becoming united in all mankind as one in being together through the Son glorified and transfigured into the image of the Creator God for The Father.
Peace always,
Stephen
Talk about chatbots ^^^.
Iām outta here for a while. Between the OMNIbots and agents provocateur, this forum has really gone downhill.
Iāll stop by down the road, maybe, and see if things have gone back to what they started out as here.