Big Bang Believers

Peace to all,

To me, Logically matter and energy existed in a pre-Big Bang state in logical infallible undeflied intelligence order form. And “Big Bang” is creation becoming in failed state with freedom to choose to love or not to love. And to me, becoming again undeflied infallible intelligence logic spirit manifesting the flesh is fulfilled logical intelligence that never fails and only in one way following the fulfilled logical pattern manifesting from the spirit through the life, “What would Jesus do in all cases of the fulfilled faith and morality of the Christ becoming again through all manking in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being” becoming undefiled through The Body becoming again through both natures from the spirit though the souls of all for the flesh resolved in creation fulfilled in World Order as Unfailing and now only able to love and to love with only the most love through both natures in The One Body becoming again One Divine Spirit Family One God in being.

Peace to all,
Stephen

Your expression of faith is over my head, meaning it is too sophisticated for me to follow. Spiritual life is simple for the simple. Jesus wanted the children to come to him. Similarly we have to be childlike in order to approach Jesus, and to approach God. The man in the street could not follow you. Perhaps some few very intellectual souls. Jesus wants us to love God our Father as he loves God our Father. If we associate with him intimately in our hearts, he will share his love for God with us so that we can “taste” it. This is what he means when he says there is no way to approach the Father except through him. Big bang is the speculation of atheistic scientists. all of their speculations will not serve them at the time of death. the Bible tells us that God created everything. What more do we have to understand?

Peace to all,

To me the Mystical Body is the Holy Spirit Family One God in being existing before creation becoming again through the flesh becoming again in both natures, Spirit and Life, God and Temple becoming again through three preexisting powers and separate Gods in being equal each in the Powers of God From Creation through Transformation for Glorification and transfiguration in all becoming Again One Holy Spirit Family One God in being from the Father through The Mother for The Son in The Christ becoming again One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.

The Choice created is to love or not to love. Choice fulfilled is to love only and to love with only the most love becoming undefiled infallible in both natures, from incorruptible Holy Spirit Power through the Immaculate Flesh becoming again One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.

Rational logic can now be seen correctly as The Holy Spirit as the Family of God, no gender and now we truthfully see Mary, The Mother of God and Mother of Son of Man from Heaven, the Word is God in The Holy Spirit Family becoming conceived in the flesh of Jesus becoming the Christ through The New Eve and through The Christ becoming again in all One Holy Spirit Family One God in being through both natures.

It is true that Scripture does not say the first sin of Adam and Eve was. It’s been generally agreed that the description of Adam and Eve eating of the forbidden fruit is a symbol of their sin, of their disobedience, not the actual material object of their sin. The Church has never formally taught what that sin was, so though one is free to disagree with the belief that it was sexual in nature, one cannot claim that belief to be an error.

Formally the truth can only be know logically. What is the first sin becomes from two natures becoming again. The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil brought choice from the Spirit for the souls of all for the flesh to become the image of the Father becoming again One Holy Spirit Family One God in being. The Image of the Holy Family is the One God in being through both natures, Spirit and life.

Adam and Eve are created from the Father eternal mortal with access to the Tree of Life and the Tree of Knowledge. As Authority and Spirit and Life Adam was told not to eat of the Tree of Knowledge, giving access remaining in the Garden with access to the Tree of Life Daily. Adam seen by God as lonely separates Authority an Spirit and Life from the Rib (Greek for equal or whole side) of Adam, creating Eve equal in the Power of the Authority of Adam as Spirit and Life in Eve. Eve defies Authority, Adam and Eve as Spirit and Life gives up her mortal eternal life for the love of Adam to have him know the goodness of life and spirit even if it meant her own death. And now Adam’s choice becomes to choose to live alone forever with out Eve or to die with the Love of Eve.

To me, Love is created by Adam and Eve logically.

In all generalization and truthfully logically The Holy Spirit is a Family of God rationally and Mary existed in fulfilled intelligence logic as Queen of Heaven and Mother of God, God of Mercy before creation was ever created was even created, OMNILogically. And intelligently, physically and faithfully through the Immaculate Conception and The New Eve all mankind is transformed into immortality becoming again through The Christ incorruptibly glorified and transfigured One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.

Reasonably, really, Mary is from Adam and Eve, from the Power of The Holy Spirit at the Annunciation becoming the New Eve through the Immortal flesh in the Immaculate Conception delivering through Virgin Birth Jesus conceived by the Holy Spirit Family from the New Adam becoming the Christ in all mankind becoming again through The Transfiguration just like Our Brother Jesus in all mankind glorified and transfigured One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.

To me, Mary is the Miriam Presence the Catholic Church is looking for and we see clearly now the Holy Spirit is the Family of God and Mary is The Mother of God and a person in being of Power as equal to God in the power of The One God in being in the Trinity together with The Father and The Son for all in The Christ becoming glorified and transfigured with all mankind becoming again One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, OMNILogically.

And in all generalization, Adam and Eve created love and The New Adam and The New Eve fulfill eternal love through The Passion of the Christ becoming again in all mankind to love only and to love with only the most love becoming again, One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, OMNILogically.

Peace always,
Stephen

Love is not created by Adam and Eve. Love is the heart of God, and we are tiny parts of God. Everything in creation is an expression of God’s power, God’s energy. Not a blade of grass moves without the will of the Lord. The seeds of the earth sprout only by His will. All of creation is part of God. Nothing can exist apart from God. But God is Supreme, the Supreme Controller, The Supreme proprietor, and the Supreme Enjoyer. But we want to be the controller, the proprietor, and the independent enjoyer. This is our only sin, from which all other sins become manifest. We want the position of God. Therefore we are all in competition. Therefore there is slavery, there is exploitation, there are wars, there is violence of every kind. Because we all want to be God, the most important person, the center of everyone’s adoration. This is love of Mammon. When our love is redirected towards God, our eternal Father, this is the correct use of our inherent God-given loving propensity. Then all Godly qualities become manifest in our hearts. God created us in order to love Him. He enjoys our love, just as he enjoys the love of Jesus, His son. We are all the sons and daughters of God. But our love is directed towards Mammon, the temporal things of this world. Jesus has come simply to show, by instruction, and by example, how we can again become loving servants of our eternal Father. This will not happen by trying to be obedient. This will not endure; our love of Mammon will prevail. But if we can, under the supervision of Jesus, revive our dormant love of our Eternal Father, then only can we be liberated from our love of Mammon, and become qualified to return to our real home, in the spiritual realm, and become again, members of the heavenly host.

Peace to all,

“We are all the sons and daughters of God.” So true Peter1

To me Big Bang is failed world order in two natures and came from creation by God with the freedom to choose to love or not to love, just like Adam and Eve.

To me, Without Adam and Eve logic creation is confusing to all through the Two Natures, Authority and Life, God and Temple becoming again in One Body. Each Nature has a becoming through the Powers of the Universe, logically. From The Father all souls are created through blood and water birth from the spirit blown in through the soul for the flesh, the Body in both natures, from spirit power in the soul to manifest the flesh, to manifest from the Power of the Spirit, rationally.

As I have seen, The logical formulas have never before been presented and through the OMNILogical God we can see God now with New OMNI Eyes, becoming again in all mankind One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.

To my Eyes, The first becoming is from the failed flesh nature from Adam and Eve through Mary, God of Mercy in the New Eve becoming immortality through the Powers of the Living Waters of the Sacrament of Baptism for death to life from all in the Immaculate Flesh of The New Eve becoming into the Catholic Church. Sanctification from the spirit through the soul of the Baptized for the flesh to become again until the first sin, then the New Adam Co-Resurrects from the Power of The Holy Spirit Family One God in being, in Sacrifice through Penance, forgiven to become again One Holy Sprit Family One God in being.

And through the New Adam from the New Eve we become from The Holy Spirit through incorruption in the Christ from Sacrifice and through Penance forgiven, becoming again One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, in all generalization.

The Logical Formulas through the Wondrous Mysteries of Baptism and Penance are death to life through the Flesh in Baptism transformed becoming immortality from the New Eve and from the New Adam from Sacrifice through Penance becoming again glorified and transfigured One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, (transformed) born again and (glorified and transfigured) saved through both natures, spirit and life OMNILogically.

The Two Nature God of Abraham is Co-Redemptive through Mary for Jesus, created from The Father. All mankind is born again through The Mother and saved for The Son in the Christ becoming again in all mankind One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, OMNILogically.

To me, Rationality and logic is the only thing that makes mystics from other disciples on this planet.

Peace always,
Stephen

A long time ago, when I worked at Bell Laboratories, one devout Catholic scientist mentioned that what is called the Big Bang sounds like the first day of creation, when God said, “Let there be light.” I don’t think he believed in the Big Bang—it wasn’t a matter of belief. He believed in God’s revelation through the Bible and, as a scientist, saw similarity (and it was two Bell Labs scientists who had discovered cosmic background radiation, on which scientific fact the Big Bang theory was partly based). “The idea of the ‘Big Bang’ does not conflict with the sequence of creation—light first, the sun later, described in the Bible,” wrote Father Robert D. Smith in The Other Side of Christ (Magnificat Press, 1987).

The scientist talks of “big bang”. Actually we can give any name we want to the creation. We can all it by a thousand names. But the short-coming of the scientist is that he fails to mention Who caused the so-called “big bang”. Failing to acknowledge and to give worship to God as the cause of all causes is the sinfulness of so-called modern science. There is no need of the scientist’s research. He cannot fabricate with all his research, the road to eternal life. In fact he is in darkness, and encouraging others in that way. When we go to heaven, we will have no need of a User ID, or a Password. Nor will we have a bar code on our soul. Credit cards and driver’s license will not be needed. Neither passport or visa. But if Jesus is pleased with us, we will be received into heaven by God, our eternal Father. Heaven requires no technological advancement which is only a distraction to man in this day and age. The scientist cannot give us eternal life. He cannot prevent old age. He cannot prevent disease. He can only say “In the future we can do these things. We are doing research.” In this way the scientist gives us a post-dated check that we will never be able to cash. In contemporary jargon, this is called a “scam”, promising something that cannot be delivered. This world of so-called modern technology is like building the Tower of Babel, the result being that we are all strangers to each other because of a loss of the one common value that unites us all - that we are all the children of God. He has many names. There are some dozen names of God in the Bible. But He is everyone’s Lord and Master. He loves all of us, and wants us to join Him in heaven.

" your expression of faith is over my head meaning it is too sophisticated for me to follow". Uhhh…no, it isn’t. The O.P. is completely incoherent and incomprehensible.

This is a forum for infantile idiots. Catholics are morons.

Peace to all,

Logically, Catholics believe The God from the Faith of Abraham comes to Earth and lives inside of us becoming again through the Powers of the Holy Spirit Family One God in being becoming again immortally transformed and reimaged incorruptibly glorified and transfigured One Holy Spirit Family One God in being through the logical formulas from the Wondrous Mysteries of the Faith in God. And most do not even understand the Logic of the Mind of God, OMNILogically, to me. It is only through the Faith in everything The Christ taught on earth that saves to Catholics.

But I deliver through the Holy Spirit Power given, graced to me and, to me, is the OMNILogic that is trusted and verified through the logical formulas of the Faith.

I understand everyone’s confusion in spirit and life and resurrection becoming again and to me the Faith from Abraham is from a God of two natures, spirit and life becoming again in One Body. No one on earth has rationally formulated the logic of teh Mind of God to be able to see God with New OmniLogical Eyes, to me.

Literally Catholicism is three divine personal Gods each God separately and each equal in the powers of God and together One God and One Holy Spirit Family together becoming again in all mankind One God and One Holy Family.

Rationally the Mind of God is infallible intelligence power unfailing in the fulfilled universe to become to all mankind through flesh from The Christ to be able to share divinity through both natures, Spirit and life.

To me, The Mind of God literally comes through the New Covenant Arked to Earth in failed creation becoming again through the Wondrous Mysteries of the Faith becoming again in all mankind, One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.

To me, The Mind of Creation allows all to see God through the Christ in the fulfilled faith and morality from Jesus conceived by the Power of the Holy Spirit Family of God becoming The Christ in all mankind becoming again One God and One Holy Family through Both natures.

Peace always,
Stephen

Hi David! I am in some ways like you. I think the term is “dogma”, meaning teachings of the church based on the teachings of scripture, sometimes with explanations and interpretations given by respected senior members of the church through the centuries. The teachings of Jesus are very simple. For example, the Jewish spiritual law books are filled with hundreds of laws. They have books, the Talmud, and the Torah, etc. They are concerned with being, so to speak, “good boys and girls”, with the hope that in this way they can enter the kingdom of God. Obedient children. Then Jesus comes to us on behalf of his Father. He tells us quite simply, that he didn’t come to change even a letter of “the law”, but there is something higher than rigid adherence to these principles. The representatives of the Jewish congregation were worried and concerned about how Jesus was attracting the minds and hearts of the local people. Therefore they wanted to find some fault in his teachings, so that they could say, “Just see, Jesus is a blasphemer, a heretic!” So their plan was to ask Jesus some questions about the teachings of Jewish law, so that they could catch him, and then make their accusations and discredit him. Now, the Jewish laws are very complex. E.g., in one situation, one should do this in response, in another situation, one should do another thing, and on and on. Social laws. Moral laws. Etc. The Jewish people have to consult with the rabbis, who also have debates over the principles of these laws. That is part of Jewish tradition. So they tried to catch Jesus by asking him, “What is the most important rule or law.” And Jesus sidestepped their question by pointing out, in an unspoken way mind you, … “what is the purpose of all of your laws?” Because the purpose of all of the laws, of all scriptures, is that we should be pleasing to God. We should be giving God pleasure. Therefore Jesus answered the rabbis, and/or scribes, “The most important rule is to love God with all of our heart, with all of our strength.” Why is this the most important rule? Because this is actually what God wants from us, more than anything else. Because the spiritual understanding is, that if one actually develops, within their heart, spontaneous feelings of love for God…all of his actions will be pleasing to God, because God will work through that devoted soul in that way. And as a consequence, that soul will also act in such a way that all moral laws will be fulfilled, and his actions will create peace and harmony on earth, without separate endeavor. Bottom line, is that there is tendency, in all religions, for the members to get caught up with rules, definitions, etc., etc., out of a desire to be true to the faith. And therefore there can be a tendency to speak in formulas of verbiage, that may be over their head, as a demonstration of faith. But at least they are not preaching atheism (as we can find on some dedicated websites today). They are pointing in the right direction. I was thinking somewhat like you…“Where is this guy coming from?” But he is on the right team. He’s just a little eccentric. He’s a brother, a family member. So let’s just be grateful for that, and give a nod of approval, a nod of encouragement, and continue to associate with those who speak a more common language. It’s like having a family member who’s really different from the rest of us, but still we feed him, still we nurture him, still we care for him, and maintain loving feelings. I’m a little like you. But I’m trying to cultivate a feeling that would make Jesus smile.

I like this statement, Stephen. Here is my understanding as I have received it from my spiritual teacher. There is God the Father. From Him everything comes, and by His will everything in existence…exists. But he gives us, tiny fragments of spirit, a little free will. We can either accept God as our eternal well-wishing, loving Father…or we can be envious of His position and want it for ourselves. This envy is portrayed in the activities of human beings on this planet. The desire to be God, to be the most powerful, the most intelligent, the most wealthy, the most beautiful, the most famous…this puts us all in endless competition. This competition takes the form of imperialism, slavery, exploitation, war, etc.

So first and foremost, we have God, our eternal spiritual Father. Now, his powers are unfathomable, inconceivable to the human mind. He is in heaven. But at the same time He is all-pervasive… We call this all-pervasive presence of God, “the Holy Ghost”. The Holy Ghost is within every atom, and between every atom in this world. He lives within our hearts. Without His help and His presence within us, we would not be able to take our next breath. He is the power the digest our food. In fact He is everything. But He is more than everything in His creation…because He lives personally , on His throne, in heaven. He is simultaneously ing heaven, and within our hearts. He is just waiting for us to turn to Him.

But we are deaf and blind. We are trying to make life on planet earth work for us, each of us trying to be a proprietor, a controller, and in this way… an enjoyer.

Actually we cannot be separated from God. We are infinitesimal spiritual sparks, emanating from God who is metaphorically like a great fire. When the sparks are out of touch with the great fire, they lose their effulgent quality. We are like leaves on the tree of life. And God is that tree. We are part of the tree. Here on earth, we are like leaves, trying to water ourselves…but it doesn’t work. Others, some few, are trying to water the other leaves…but that doesn’t provide eternal life to them, nor can it satisfy their desires. But if there is one leaf on the tree of life that waters the root of the tree…that leaf can say, “My cup runneth over.”, because his heart is filled with spiritual bliss. And at the same time, imperceptibly, he is serving all of the other leaves on the tree.

Now, God is watching all of this seeking for fulfillment by watering ourselves in so many ways, and by watering each other…and he sees that we are not aware that we are all part of the the great Tree of Life, which is God. So he sends His Son.

His Son is always cent percent watering the root. This is his spontaneous demeanor of the heart. And God sends him to us, an gives him great power. Just like a president of country sends his ambassador to another land. He is not the president. But he is empowered to act on behalf of the president. And he is to be received as we would receive the president himself. And if he is received properly , with all respect and honor that is due to the president, the president is very pleased. And the role of the ambassador is to convey the wishes of the president to those in a foreign land. Jesus is Gad’s ambassador. He is empowered by God to fulfill this position. He is authorized. And he shows by example, that the only way to be fulfilled within our hearts, is to water the root of the Tree of Life, our Father in heaven. He wants nothing for Himself. He only desires to be a source of pleasure to our eternal Father. Therefore he says, as a way of teaching to all of us, “Not what I want for myself, Lord, not my will, but only what is pleasing to you, Thy will be done.” In other words Jesus is teaching that our fulfillment lies in adopting the demeanor of pure devotional service to God. Not that we approach God, asking Him to be our order supplier, like Amazon.com, but that we ask God what can we do that is pleasing to You, that will give You pleasure. This is the teaching of Jesus in a nutshell. Pure devotional service. Unalloyed devotional service. Not mixed with our personal desires ad ambitions for enjoying life on planet earth.

So when Jesus tells us, that “I and my Father are One.” This does not mean that Jesus is God the Father. This means that we must receive him as we would receive God Himself, because Jesus is the intimate associate of God the Father in heaven, and God has sent Him to us, as His ambassador.

Then Jesus tells us that there is no way to the father except through him. Why is he teaching us in this way? Jesus tells us that he is metaphorically like an ox that is harnessing under the yoke of his master. If the master says turn right, or left, or go forward, the ox complies. Jesus tells us to take upon ourselves the yoke that he carries, that he serves. How can we do this? We can do this by accepting the heart of Jesus into our own hearts.

Therefore, we must cultivate an intimate relationship with Jesus. Just like covid. We catch covid by associating intimately with someone who has covid. We catch the devotional spirit of Jesus towards our eternal Father, by intimately associating with Jesus within our hearts.

Now, the Holy Spirit of God who is in our hearts…He gives us firstly, the ability to recognize Jesus as His ambassador. But He only gives this ability to those who are ready and willing to come closer to Him. Because we all have this God-given tiny free will. When we are ready to accept His guidance, He enables to recognize Jesus as our Teacher. And because Jesus is sharing his love of the Father with us, his teaching is perfect. In this way God the Father, God the son, and God the all-pervasive Holy Spirit, Holy Ghost … are One. Amen.

Peace to all,

OMNILogically the Mind of God from The Holy Spirit Family New Covenant Arked to earth through the New Eve and back for the New Adam becoming again One God in being.

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For from him, and through her, and for him, are all things: in him be glory for ever. Amen.

To me, the intelligence of fulfilled creation is unfailing and only in One Way, becoming through the Immaculate Flesh of the New Eve Baptized transformed immortalty through the souls of all manifested from the incorruptible Holy Spirit in the New Adam becoming the Christ in all mankind from Sacrifice through Penance forgiven becoming again glorified and transfigured in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.

To me, what logically becomes again fulfilled perfect is fulfulled choice becomes loving only and only loving with the most love through both natures, spirit and life in One God.

Peace always,
Stephen

One more time;
incoherent and incomprehensible nonsense. Stephen have you ever taken an I.Q. test?

Peace to all,

Peace always,
Stephen