What do Catholic Christians believe about Zionism/Israel?

Do we believe in Replacement Theology? Do we believe in Bi-Covenantalism? Or do we believe in something other?

Dr. Scott Hahn is great! I think these conversations are important in today’s climate.

Here is the link to the four-hour course by Dr. Hahn that is referenced in the above video: All Israel Will Be Saved.

Peace to all,

From the Faith of Abraham, circumcised Baptized Hebrews were saved from animal Sacrifice through Penance forgiven for the spirit in the souls awaiting resurrection through the flesh of The Christ in the Bosom of Abraham.

Mosaic Hebrews are the Israelites picked to carry from Egypt carrying the “Chosen” Animal Sacrifice through the Ark of The Old Covenant to The Tomb, The City of Jerusalem.

Through the Christ both natures become again from the spirit through the created souls of all for the created flesh becoming One Body through two natures out of the Bosom of Abraham through the Flesh for both natures spirit and life, through the fulfilled “Chosen” New Living Sacrifice carried forward in the Ark of The New Covenant through The Christ from Sacrifice through Penance forgiven in two natures, spirit and life for all mankind becoming again in all Creation One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, I believe.

Peace always,
Stephen

What do Catholic Christians believe about Zionism/Israel?

On January 23rd, 1944, in a transcript dictated to Maria Valtorta by Jesus, He spoke about Dan. 12, Christ’s Rome, and Israel, which you can read in The Notebooks: 1944 (pp. 47-49)

On November 2nd, 1950, in a transcript dictated to Maria Valtorta by the Holy Spirit, He spoke about Zion and Israel in the end times in His lesson on Rom. 11:25-36, which you can read in Lessons on the Epistle of St. Paul to the Romans.

…just to name a couple.

Christ died even for the Hebrews. Rather, in His utmost requests from the Cross, He commended to the Father the Hebrews more than any other people because it was they who had merited the reproachfulness of God and who pertinaciously would have persisted in their errors.

Why did the elect people have to be the very one who was most guilty? Could God not have prevented them from becoming so? As He had fulgurated Saul, could He not have fulgurated the Chief Priests, the Pharisees and the scribes in order to convert them to the Truth and Justice? He certainly could have. But where, then, is the merit of their conversion which would not have been spontaneous but forced by a divine and powerful will?

Was there or was there not a mysterious motive in this conduct of God? There certainly was, because God does not do anything without a purpose and end. And every end is just, even if it is mysterious for mortals.

The moment will come in which all things worked by God, incomprehensible at this time, will be revealed to you. And then, together with Paul, you will repeat, “Oh the depths of the riches of the Wisdom and knowledge of God!” Maria Valtorta

Peace to all,

For when does time begin?

From the Father Logically the “Mind of God” spiritually is conceived through the immaculate flesh for Mary in the New Eve for Virgin Born Jesus in the New Adam becoming The Christ in all mankind. The full “Sophia” Wisdom of The Holy Spirit Family is the One God in being conceived in all Mankind becoming our own Christ becoming again in all One God in being.

God from God, we are Created from the Father, Light from Light, The Holy Spirit Power transforms through the New Eve becoming immortality for all from Mary true God from true God Jesus, from Holy Spirt Incorruption begotten not made, conceived Virgin Born from the Immaculate Conception preexisting before creation as One Holy Spirit Family One God in being always together with the Father through the Mother for The Son becoming The Christ in all. Through him, The Holy Spirit Family is always together from The Father through The Mother for The Son in all things that were made, For us and for our salvation He, The Holy Spirit Family came down from heaven Arked through the New Eve from 0 A. D. in the Beginning of Church Time on Earth.

Logically Maria is writing the logical formulas from the Wondrous Mysteries in the Catholic Faith becoming again in all One God in being a Family. The New Living Sacrifice allows death and resurrection from the spirit through the created souls of all for the flesh becoming One Body through Mary for Jesus becoming through the Christ in all mankind becoming again in all creation from the New Living Sacrifice in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.

Peace always,
Stephen

I have not yet listened to the talk, the video, due to time constraints. I was born into Jewish culture. But I say that the Jews have experienced Hitler’s haulocost. But they have not learned anything from it. Now they are doing genocide on the Palestinians. “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”, is not simply a nice sentiment. It’s God’s law……call it “karma” or “sewing and reaping”. Or what the man in the street says, “What goes around, comes around.”
So……..”Zionism”…… There’s nothing wrong with people wanting to have a homeland where they can live safely with their communities and families. But when this desire takes the form of imperialism, and exploitation of the human rights of others……..there’s gonna be retribution. Big time. Then the Jews will cry that they are victims……..but it won’t do them any good. And….as I say……I was born into the Jewish gene pool…….so if someone wants to say I’m antisemitic, that’s all right with me. When we charge up our credit card……we eventually have to pay the bill. The Zionists of Isreal are building up a a big credit balance that will have to be paid off in due course. To be the “chosen people” doesn’t mean we are the only ones who needs and desires should come first. To be the “chosen people” means that one should live a Godly life that is a godly example to others.

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Peace to all,

So true, Peter1, I believe, Through all generalizations, The Chosen is The Fulfilled from faith through morality "New Living Sacrifice becoming again in all, I believe.

Logically From the Faith of Abraham, both natures from the spirit and through the Life becoming again in all One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.

The first failed sacrifice was the Fig Leaf and Adam and Eve could not properly hide, and was a man made attempt for sin covering at a God Chosen solutiuon, I believe, so God said, “I will always choose the Living Sacrifice” to cover the sins of the guilty for the return of the friendship for the guilty, from sacrifice through Penance forgiven. Old Covenant Baptism was circumcision and New Covenant Baptism is from the Living Waters of Saint John The Baptist, transformaing flesh becoming immortality for all into the Ne wEve. And from the Sacrifice through the Penance, the punishment for atonement from the loss of the animal for food and clothing, and absolution is given from the words forgiven. We are “Forgiven” from God through the good works of the flesh for sacrifice in Penance to be able to become again now for Jeuss in teh New adam becoming Holy Spirit incorruption for all through the Christ for both natures, from New Adam Spirit through New Eve Life glorified and transfigured in One Holy Family

Logically, “The Chosen” is the living Sacrifice, Old Covenant, Animals saving only the Spirits of the souls to the Bosom of Abraham, I believe.

Through all generalizations, Picked to carry the Ark of the Old Covenant are the Hebrews, Israelites out of Egypt to Jerusalem, and Jesus fulfills from the Spirit for the souls awaiting in The Bosom of Abraham for all in flesh through The Christ emptying the Bosom of abraham and crossing over with all to teh Chasm of Death destroying death forever and resurrecting from the spirit through the life becoming for all through the Christ, Teh New Living Sacrifice, Teh Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of The Holy Family conceived for Jesus through Mary becoming again in all Creation One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, I believe.

Peace always
Stephen

Peace to all,

Jesus has alrady returned uniting all from One Father though One Mother for One Son becoming through The Christ through spirit and life in One Christ Body for all, for all mankind becoming again in all creation One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.

Through all generalizations, the God from the faith of Abraham is The God of Two Natures, Spirit and Life becoming again in all Creation, One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, OMNiLogicalGod.Com.

Peace always,
Stephen

Thank you soul! There is justice in the universe. As I wrote above, some call it “sewing and reaping”, some call it karma……..but the idea is the same. The concept of “luck”, and the idea that everything is a matter of “chance”…….these are atheistic ideas. But everything comes on schedule. God is in control. Not a blade of grass moves except by the will of the Lord.
You spoke of the “antichrist”. When the people of the world are so sinful, the sewing and reaping process descends on a global level. There are wars, tidal waves, forest fires, plagues, earthquakes, floods and draughts. The Hitlers and the Trumps and the Netanyahu’s are God’s agents for delivering the “reaping” process. Of course anyone who acts in way that God does not approve, they will receive their due. If I operate scams on the web, or on the phones, one day I will be the victim of someone stealing from me. But the person who steals from me…..he also will have to be punished.
We are not in the Garden of Eden. No archeologist will discover the Garden on this planet. the Garden of Eden is the Bible’s jargon for describing the spiritual world. We are not here because Adam and Even chose to be independent of God’s law. We are here because each of us made that choice. We are in the material world, the world of birth and death, for one purpose. We are in rehab. Everyone is trying to lord it over as much as they can, to exploit, to be the master, the enjoyer, instead of being God’s servant. The stronger ones become the most dangerous to anyone who stands in their way.

From one lifetime to the next there is “sewing and reaping”. One person is born into poverty. Another is born to be “Prince Harry”. It is not by chance. Those who have done “good” receive material blessings. And those who have done “bad” ………. bad things happen in their lives. It is all for us to learn, to grow.
But Jesus teaches, that simply by being a good person……this does not open the door to the spiritual world. Jesus teaches that the only key to the spiritual world is to cultivate the ability to love God with all of our heart. And those of us whose hearts are still filled with material desires at the time of leaving this body……they have to come back.
We are not Jews. We are not Muslims. We are not Hindus, or Catholics. Jesus didn’t say we should be Catholic. He said we have to cultivate our dormant love for God. He said that he was here on this planet to share his love for God with us. He said, “Accept the yoke that I wear. If you want to know the Father, you have to learn to love Him as I do.” We are all here in rehab. Fallen angels. Otherwise why would God place us, who are eternal souls, in a situation wherein we have to experience old age, disease, and death………Why do eternal souls have to experience the sense of old age and dying? Because we are in rehab. The soul doesn’t die. The soul is eternal. We are in prison. Jesus is the parole officer. If we break parole……we are back in prison.

So zionism is another disease of the soul. We are not one religious label or another. God is not Christian, Muslim, or Jewish. There is only one God. And he is the God of all of us. And if we love him, the by-product of that love is that we will see every human being as our brother or sister. And until we reach that platform of spiritual awareness, we will think we are Zionitist, Muslims, etc., etc. Labels.

The body is born in Russia. Is the soul Russian? The body is born in France. Is the soul French? Is the soul American, or Israeli? All labels. Nationality is another delusion of the spirit soul.

Every creature on the earth has a spirit inside him…….and when the spirit departs, that body becomes compost. Can one make a horse or a cow, a dog or a cat in the laboratory? Can one create consciousness in a shovel full of earth? Consciousness is the symptom of the presence of the soul, the presence of spiritual energy. People cry if their dog dies……and send cows and pigs to the slaughter house. Because they are educated in that way.
I looked online to understand xenophobia. Why do U.S. citizens from the southern states hate black people and consider them inferior? They are the greatest golfers, like Tiger Woods. They are the greatest basketball players. The greatest musicians like Wynton Marcellis. But the Klu Klux Klan (who consider themselves to be good Christians) want to persecute the black people who ask to be treated as human beings. The answer to my question, “Why do people behave in this way?”, is because they are taught to have these thoughts and feelings as children. And then it is very difficult for them to change. It is the same with Zionism. It is the same with the Catholic Church that killed hundreds of thousands in the Middle Ages when implementing “The Inquisition”, or “The Crusades” against the Muslims. And everyone is thinking they are acting in the service of God. Jesus is looking at God and rolling his eyes in his head.

"Christ died even for the Hebrews. Rather, in His utmost requests from the Cross, He commended to the Father the Hebrews more than any other people because it was they who had merited the reproachfulness of God and who pertinaciously would have persisted in their errors.

Why did the elect people have to be the very one who was most guilty? Could God not have prevented them from becoming so? As He had fulgurated Saul, could He not have fulgurated the Chief Priests, the Pharisees and the scribes in order to convert them to the Truth and Justice? He certainly could have. But where, then, is the merit of their conversion which would not have been spontaneous but forced by a divine and powerful will?

Was there or was there not a mysterious motive in this conduct of God? There certainly was, because God does not do anything without a purpose and end. And every end is just, even if it is mysterious for mortals.

The moment will come in which all things worked by God, incomprehensible at this time, will be revealed to you. And then, together with Paul, you will repeat, “Oh the depths of the riches of the Wisdom and knowledge of God!” Maria Valtorta

Peace to all,

Even Maria does not understand The Logical Christ and The Trinity Family, I believe.

Jesus says:
'“Still seeing the Beloved’s words through My eyes One can
understand that ‘the hidden manna’ too is My Word.It is
manna because it gathers all the sweetness of love of Our Trinity
which is Father, Brother and Spouse of your souls and loves you with
the three highest loves which is hidden because it is said in the depths of
the hearts of those worthy to taste it."

Logically Jesus and Mary are Gods preexisting in undefiled intelligence logic proving Them Gods from preexistence, non-created being and personal God in being from the Holy Spirit Family One God in being and are the two “New Trees,” becoming “One New Fruit” Baptized becoming One Body in the Christ for all mankind from Sacrifice through Penance forgiven becoming again for all creation in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.

OMNILogically, For from him and through her and for him are all things. In The Holy Spirit Family One God in being be the glory forever! Amen.

From the logical formulas through the Wondrous Mysteries of the Catholic Faith we become again for all creation in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, OMNILogically.

Logically God created two trees, failed, spirit and life becoming again in all through the two new “Fruits” from the two new trees, from the tree of the incorruptible spirit through the tree of the immortal immaculate life becoming “One Tree” from One “New Fruit” through One Two Nature Christ becoming in One Body becoming again One Family.

God of Justice, Jesus, Eternal Authority of Spirit is Virgin Born in the New Adam through Mary from the Immaculate Conception, God of Mercy from the Transformed Immaculate Flesh becoming immortality in all through the New Eve becoming the Body of Christ in all mankind.

“Surely you will never die,” is both the truth and a lie in the same line. The Devil is the trickster, and what a liar and becomes transformed into the image of the Father of Lies, a snake, I believe, choice is the trickster, I believe giving us the failed spirit choice of “Fruit” to love or love not causing loss of the “Fruit” to live mortally failed forever through the mortal flesh. Both Adam and Eve give up their own mortal life for the love of the other, becoming again fulfilled through His Passion.

But Jesus fulfills both natures Arked to Earth from the Power of the Holy Spirit Family One God in being through the New Covenant for the flesh with choice becoming again loving only and loving with only the most love manifested eternally and incorruptibly from The Holy Spirit Family incorruption in The New Adam though immaculate flesh immortality from The New Eve becoming Baptized in One Two Nature Unfailing Flesh Undefiled Spirit and Life Body for the Christ in all mankind through two natures fulfilled from The New Adam and New Eve Confirmed natures from Sacrifice through Penance from the Priests Words of Absolution in Confession becoming forgiven and in Communion with Him becoming again in all creation One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.

Jesus said, “What is it to you if he remain alive until I return, You must follow me.”

We will never die of The Spirit becoming through the flesh becoming again through both natures, One God in being a Family again.

Hidden is the logical truth becoming again from both natures in One Holy Family, I believe.

The Life “Fruit” is from the tree of Life, Eve. The Spirit “Fruit” is from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, Adam.

Here is the example from The Vatican document, Mater Populi Fidelis , issued by the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith (DFF) with the approval of Pope Leo XIV, stresses that Jesus alone provides the means to redemption, and Mary herself must be recognized as His disciple. The document states:

Given the necessity of explaining Mary’s subordinate role to Christ in the work of Redemption, it would not be appropriate to use the title “Co-redemptrix” to define Mary’s cooperation. This title risks obscuring Christ’s unique salvific mediation and can therefore create confusion and an imbalance in the harmony of the truths of the Christian faith, for “there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved” (Acts 4:12).

What the Vatican does not understand is the Logic of the Mind of God becoming again in all creation, One Family.

The Vatican states, “Mary’s incomparable greatness lies in what she has received and in her trusting readiness to allow herself to be overtaken by the Spirit. When we strive to attribute active roles to her that are parallel to those of Christ, we move away from the incomparable beauty that is uniquely hers.”

To me, rationally,logically and faithfully, Mary is the Christ together with Jesus the Christ, both Christs, One Flesh Christ and One Spirit Christ becoming One Body of Christ, “One Fruit.” One Sacrifice becoming again in all creation One God, One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, OMNILogicalGod.Com

The Christ’s work is through Mary for Jesus becoming the Christ in all mankind. We logically can see clearly that the Vatican does not properly understand The Christ becoming again in all creation One Holy Spirit Family One God in being. The Vatican also cannot see logically the Holy Spirit as The Family of God becoming again in all creation One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.

Logically the “New Fruit” is both trees fulfilled becoming from the incorruptible Spirit through the immaculately immortal life becoming in One Body in the Christ from Sacrifice through Penance from Confession in hearing the Words of Absolution becoming forgiven in all through both natures, spirit and life becoming again in all creation One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.

The “New Fruit” is the Host, transformation becoming immortality glorification becoming incorruption transfiguration becoming again through transformed immaculately immortal flesh from The Holy Spirit Family incorruption in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.

Peace always,
Stephen
The Logical Pen of The Holy Spirit Family

Peace to all,

  • Mary, the Mother of God: Mary embraced her role with humility and trust in God’s providence, saying “yes” to God after the Annunciation by the Angel Gabriel. She is an example of love, modesty, and resignation of spirit.

Peace always,
Stephen

Here is my take and I think it is much deeper than hahn but it’s very long check it out if you like

Middle East Crisis and Jesus’ “Times of the Gentiles”