What do Catholic Christians believe about Zionism/Israel?

Do we believe in Replacement Theology? Do we believe in Bi-Covenantalism? Or do we believe in something other?

Dr. Scott Hahn is great! I think these conversations are important in today’s climate.

Here is the link to the four-hour course by Dr. Hahn that is referenced in the above video: All Israel Will Be Saved.

I have not yet listened to the talk, the video, due to time constraints. I was born into Jewish culture. But I say that the Jews have experienced Hitler’s haulocost. But they have not learned anything from it. Now they are doing genocide on the Palestinians. “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”, is not simply a nice sentiment. It’s God’s law……call it “karma” or “sewing and reaping”. Or what the man in the street says, “What goes around, comes around.”
So……..”Zionism”…… There’s nothing wrong with people wanting to have a homeland where they can live safely with their communities and families. But when this desire takes the form of imperialism, and exploitation of the human rights of others……..there’s gonna be retribution. Big time. Then the Jews will cry that they are victims……..but it won’t do them any good. And….as I say……I was born into the Jewish gene pool…….so if someone wants to say I’m antisemitic, that’s all right with me. When we charge up our credit card……we eventually have to pay the bill. The Zionists of Isreal are building up a a big credit balance that will have to be paid off in due course. To be the “chosen people” doesn’t mean we are the only ones who needs and desires should come first. To be the “chosen people” means that one should live a Godly life that is a godly example to others.

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Thank you soul! There is justice in the universe. As I wrote above, some call it “sewing and reaping”, some call it karma……..but the idea is the same. The concept of “luck”, and the idea that everything is a matter of “chance”…….these are atheistic ideas. But everything comes on schedule. God is in control. Not a blade of grass moves except by the will of the Lord.
You spoke of the “antichrist”. When the people of the world are so sinful, the sewing and reaping process descends on a global level. There are wars, tidal waves, forest fires, plagues, earthquakes, floods and draughts. The Hitlers and the Trumps and the Netanyahu’s are God’s agents for delivering the “reaping” process. Of course anyone who acts in way that God does not approve, they will receive their due. If I operate scams on the web, or on the phones, one day I will be the victim of someone stealing from me. But the person who steals from me…..he also will have to be punished.
We are not in the Garden of Eden. No archeologist will discover the Garden on this planet. the Garden of Eden is the Bible’s jargon for describing the spiritual world. We are not here because Adam and Even chose to be independent of God’s law. We are here because each of us made that choice. We are in the material world, the world of birth and death, for one purpose. We are in rehab. Everyone is trying to lord it over as much as they can, to exploit, to be the master, the enjoyer, instead of being God’s servant. The stronger ones become the most dangerous to anyone who stands in their way.

From one lifetime to the next there is “sewing and reaping”. One person is born into poverty. Another is born to be “Prince Harry”. It is not by chance. Those who have done “good” receive material blessings. And those who have done “bad” ………. bad things happen in their lives. It is all for us to learn, to grow.
But Jesus teaches, that simply by being a good person……this does not open the door to the spiritual world. Jesus teaches that the only key to the spiritual world is to cultivate the ability to love God with all of our heart. And those of us whose hearts are still filled with material desires at the time of leaving this body……they have to come back.
We are not Jews. We are not Muslims. We are not Hindus, or Catholics. Jesus didn’t say we should be Catholic. He said we have to cultivate our dormant love for God. He said that he was here on this planet to share his love for God with us. He said, “Accept the yoke that I wear. If you want to know the Father, you have to learn to love Him as I do.” We are all here in rehab. Fallen angels. Otherwise why would God place us, who are eternal souls, in a situation wherein we have to experience old age, disease, and death………Why do eternal souls have to experience the sense of old age and dying? Because we are in rehab. The soul doesn’t die. The soul is eternal. We are in prison. Jesus is the parole officer. If we break parole……we are back in prison.

So zionism is another disease of the soul. We are not one religious label or another. God is not Christian, Muslim, or Jewish. There is only one God. And he is the God of all of us. And if we love him, the by-product of that love is that we will see every human being as our brother or sister. And until we reach that platform of spiritual awareness, we will think we are Zionitist, Muslims, etc., etc. Labels.

The body is born in Russia. Is the soul Russian? The body is born in France. Is the soul French? Is the soul American, or Israeli? All labels. Nationality is another delusion of the spirit soul.

Every creature on the earth has a spirit inside him…….and when the spirit departs, that body becomes compost. Can one make a horse or a cow, a dog or a cat in the laboratory? Can one create consciousness in a shovel full of earth? Consciousness is the symptom of the presence of the soul, the presence of spiritual energy. People cry if their dog dies……and send cows and pigs to the slaughter house. Because they are educated in that way.
I looked online to understand xenophobia. Why do U.S. citizens from the southern states hate black people and consider them inferior? They are the greatest golfers, like Tiger Woods. They are the greatest basketball players. The greatest musicians like Wynton Marcellis. But the Klu Klux Klan (who consider themselves to be good Christians) want to persecute the black people who ask to be treated as human beings. The answer to my question, “Why do people behave in this way?”, is because they are taught to have these thoughts and feelings as children. And then it is very difficult for them to change. It is the same with Zionism. It is the same with the Catholic Church that killed hundreds of thousands in the Middle Ages when implementing “The Inquisition”, or “The Crusades” against the Muslims. And everyone is thinking they are acting in the service of God. Jesus is looking at God and rolling his eyes in his head.

Here is my take and I think it is much deeper than hahn but it’s very long check it out if you like

Middle East Crisis and Jesus’ “Times of the Gentiles”

I was born into the Jewish genetic pool. So I feel free to talk about Jews, without being called anti-semitic.

The jews endured the haulocost. And today, in the name of Zionism, they are perpetrating their own haulocost against the Palestinians, who lived in the Gaza strip even before the state of Isreal was created. Under Netanyahu, Isreal is engaged in genicide. The zionist movement today is nothing more than the work of the devil. Just as Hitler had to be stopped, Netanyahu has to be stopped.

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Abused people often become abusers.

Yah! it’s an apprenticeship program. (joke)

I have seen documentaries where the men who have been abused by priests meet together. They have PTSD. And the complaint is that the Catholic Church protects the abusers. And that this kind of dysfunctional adtivity is rampant.

Unfortunately, in many situations, this has been the case.

Not just in the Catholic Church. We are seeing it in the Epstein files. There are some who want to brush it under the rug. There are other who only call out the corruption of the other team and protect their own.

This is a human problem, not just a Catholic problem. It stings more, because Catholic clergy should know batter.

Respectful greeetings to you Cade!

I am grateful to you for your ability to see the reality. Yes, not only in the Catholic Church, but in my own church as well. Even my own daughter….although now a responsible person in the material world, (an airplane mechanic who has worked on jet planes and small passenger planes), still she discusses these childhood abuses with therapists today.

And yes, the government is no different. Because, figuratively speaking, “they are all in bed together”. They speak of “government for the people, by the people.” But it is actually government by the wealthy, for the wealthy.” Therefore they do not want to upset the status quo. Such a wealthy country. Education should be free for those who can maintain good grades, in the highest levels of education. Medical service should be freely available to every citizen.
There are some 700 U.S. miltary bases around the world. All for protecting the economic interests of U.S. corporations. All paid for with our tax dollars. Imagine the expense. And we read that Trump is lowering the taxes of the wealthy. If any one of them seriously objected to the status quo, they would become exempt from the opportunity of pursuing wealth in those circles.

They hate “communisim”. But these are the people who create communisim, when the man in the street can’t take care of his family, while the wealthy live like kings, at the expense of the masses. There should be no talk of socialism. It only goes on because of the greed of those who profit at the expense of everyone else. And the fools vote for such people. Public entertaniment. Like football games. My team, your team.
Now he wants Venezuala and Greenland. What’s next? Another Napolean.

But if spiritual leaders decry these things, they pur their lives at risk. I read online today that the Jewish clergy wanted Jesus removed because he criticized them so harshly, before the people who otherwise accepted their ways. They considered him to be a “trouble-maker”. They always get rid of the trouble-makers. Martin Luthor King Junior, JFK, Nelson Mandella, Ghandi……

They cried heresy when Jesus said, “The Father is in me, and I am in the Father.” And, “I and my Father are one.” We are all in God. but very few have that realization. How can we be separate? The holy Ghost is all pervasive, only revealing Himself to those who recognize and acknowlege Him with all of their hearts. When Jesus says “I am in the Father”, and “The Father is in me.” This means that we can accpet Jesus just as we can accpet God, because his every thought, word, and deed represents the will of the Father. But they used his words to accuse Him.
Yes, if the members of congress had any integrity, they would all stand up and say, “We want those files now!” Because if the man has nothing to hide……let it be known. And if he is an animal…..why should he be sitting in the while house? But they won’t speak up…….because it might endanger their positions in the world. Because that is their disqualification. We live in a feudal system. The barons and the peasants……all disguised in the form of democracy. A complete hoax.
That’s why we have so many scams today. It’s nothing more than an index of the level of integrity of those who run the country. If people really felt cared for and loved, they would all want to participate, to cooperate together. But because they feel that no one cares, and the rich are rich because they are exploiting us, they think to themselves, “that’s the way it works. It’s every man for himself. I’m going to get a piece of the action, by ripping someone off,…….just like the people in power.” This is the world we live in.
The only consolation is remembering that God sees everything, and if we behave in a way that is pleasing to Him, He will protect us and save us. This is my conviction. I am just trying to come closer to God in my own little way, one day at a time……even though I am so slow to make progress.