To my brothers and sisters in our Lord Jesus Christ. May Gods grace and peace be with you and your loved ones.
A few months ago the Catholic church under Pope Leo released a document. It said that calling Mary a co redeemer and co mediator was causing confusion among Catholics. It said that only Jesus holds those titles of redeemer and mediator.
Any thoughts on that?
Peace to all,
To truly understand the Logical Mind of God, we need Stephen’s Phone number, OK, just a little forward here, I mean, logically we can understand the Mind of God becoming flesh from The Family of Gods becoming again for all Creation in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, I believe.
Pope Leo understands math and I am sure Pope Leo can understand logic, OMNILogically, I believe.
Mary is Co_redemptive becoming through the Immaculate Conception in the New Eve for all Baptized becoming immortality from the living waters for the created souls of all through the flesh becoming immortality for all becoming through the New Eve into the Catholic Church.
The Sacraments from death to life from the Incorruptible Holy Spirit Family One God in being for Jesus becoming in the New Adam through From Sacrifice through Penance through the Immortal flesh Baptized through Mary becoming in The New Eve becoming in the Christ for all mankind, OMNiLogicaly.
To me and right off of the logical cuff, Mary is Queen of Heaven preexisting and God of Mercy in undefiled logical intelligence through the Immaculate Conception from the Annunciation becoming on the spot real time through a singular grace from God becoming for all incorruption and immortality in One Body for the New Eve when Our Mother says, “Yes Lord, let it become to me not my will but Your Will.” Mary becomes the Immaculate Conception transformed Immaculate Flesh Immortalily from the Power of the Incorruptible Holy Spirit Family Incorruption in One Body through Mary and God for Mary becoming through the New Eve for the Virgin Birth of Jesus becoming through the Christ for all becoming Baptized into the Catholic Church, OMNiLogically. Mary and God is OMNiLogically always together with the Father and the Son and Gods in One Holy Family preexsting through Powers becoming alive and living in all from creation transformation and glorification for all mankind becoming again transfigured for all Creation in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.
United we become as One God in being from One Father through One Mother for One Son becoming through The Christ for all mankind becoming again for all Creation in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, OMNiLogically, through all generalizations.
Pope Leo has yet to become to know the Logical Mind of God, OMNiLogically.
Can someone tell the Pope Mary is God, please?
Peace always,
Stephen
There is one meditator between God and men: Christ Jesus (1 Timothy 2:5).
Christ gave himself for us (redeemed us)—there are many Bible verses about this, such as Hebrews 9:12.
My understanding: We can help in Christ’s work, but we are adding to it. None of us can redeem anybody. Even when priests act as mediators—in confession, for example—they are using the authority that Christ gave them. They could not forgive sins without Him. Merriam Webster’s first definition for the prefix co is “together” (plus a few synonyms); the second meaning, and a very common usage, is “to the same degree” (equally). Could anybody besides Christ be co-mediator or co-redeemer? Maybe in the sense of working together with Him but in an auxiliary role. Not in the second sense of being equal. Mary can be seen as a helper (as we all could) in the work of redemption but not equally our redeemer. These titles that the pope said could cause confusion do not indicate that Mary can be considered only an auxiliary; rather, they could just as well mean “equal,” which she is not.
Peace to all,
Faithfully, the Church can say anything about Mary and it is bound by the Moses Seat, but to me logically The Mother of God is equal in the Powers of God in the Holy Family.
Does anyone think Family Logic existed before creation was ever created was even created? Preexistence is proof of God.
Jesus told Maria Valarta, the pen of Jesus to venerate Mary.
In the writings attributed to Maria Valtorta—specifically in The Notebooks 1943 and The Poem of the Man-God—the persona of Jesus often directs the visionary (referred to as “Little John” or his “pen”) to contemplate, honor, and imitate the Blessed Virgin Mary.
Key aspects of these reported revelations regarding the veneration of Mary include:
Recognize her as Co-Redemptrix: In the writings, Jesus describes Mary’s sufferings as exceeding those of the martyrs and states that “everything… you have through Mary!”
Mary became the mind of God from the annunciation through the immaculate conception when Mary said let it become not my will, but Your Will be done to me.
Catholicism is the only Faith resurrecting life from the spirit, OMNiLogically.
The God from The Faith of Abraham resurrects all from out of the Bosom of Abraham through the flesh for all through two natures becoming again One Family.
Gods preexist in a Holy Family and each God is equal in the powers of One God in being becoming again for all creation in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.
Peace always,
Stephen
What will happen by saying it like this is that those who already misunderstand the teaching of these will say that the Church has changed her teaching, when she has not.
Protestants misunderstand what we mean and the theology behind Mary being co-redemptrix. It comes from the Early Church Fathers who pointed out that Mary is the “New Eve” (see Justin Martyr, St. Irenaeus of Lyons, Cyprian, and St. Ambrose, who all described Mary as the New Eve).
Essentially it is this, Where Adam (and Eve), by their disobedience to God, brought sin and death into our world, Jesus (and Mary), by their obedience to God, brought reconciliation and life into our world.
The prefix co, does not mean equal to. Eve played a part in Adam’s sin, but Adam is responsible for the fall. Mary played a part in the redemption of the world, but Jesus is responsible for rising and conquering death.
Jesus is divine and Mary is not divine.
Another way that Mary is the New Eve is that when God made Eve, she was called a “helper” (Genesis 2:18) and Mary refers to herself as the handmaid, or “helper”, of the Lord (Luke 1:38).
Lastly, when you read Genesis 3:15, it says God would put enmity between the woman and the serpent and between her Son and the serpent’s offspring. May is often called “woman” in the New Testament. Not as a derogatory term, but rather a callback to this promise.
Many Protestants (not so much the so-called Reformers) put enmity between Mary and Jesus. Mary is on Team Jesus. If you are not on Team that Mary is on, then you must be on Team Serpent. Don’t be on Team Serpent and don’t put Mary as the Team Captain. Jesus is our Team Captain. I hope this makes sense.
As far as co-mediator goes, I want to parrot what @Literalman said, there is one meditator between God and man: Christ Jesus (1 Timothy 2:5).
We believe in the Communion of Saints. And we believe that those who die in this life, but are alive in Christ are not separated from the body. In fact, we believe they are more alive than Christians are here on Earth. And we ask for their Prayers. Mary, the Theotokos, “Mother of God,” we ask for her Prayers.
At the foot of the Cross, Jesus looked at His beloved and then to Hid Mother, and said, “Woman, behold your Son” and to His disciple, “Behold your Mother” (John 19:26-27). In a spiritual sense, Mary become our blessed Mother.
Also, Christ is King! And Mary, as His Mother is Queen. And we see in the Old Testament that Queens played a special role in the Kingdom. They held a place of honor. And thus, we honor Mary.
Again, I hope this makes sense.
Have a good night : )
There is the matter of papal infallibility.
The Pope is preserved from error by the Holy Spirit when officially defining doctrines on faith or morals.
That’s a Catholic dogma that is supposed to be adhered to so that divisons don’t occur within the RCC
Peace to all,
Catholic Talk is becoming logically for all becoming again in One God in being OMNiLogically through two natures from the spirit through the life from three Gods in being preexisting in Family Powers and Personal Gods in One Holy Family One God in being becoming alive and living in all mankind becoming again for all Creation in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being through all generalizations from The Faith of Abraham, I believe.
The Christ Body is The Spiritual Marriage for all Mankind is from Mary in the Immaculate Conception through the Power of the Holy Spirit Family in the Eternal Priestly Authority for Jesus in the New Adam becoming through The Christ for all mankind becoming again for all Creation in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, OMNiLogically.
The Autonomy of the Holy Spirit Family One God in being is becoming justified and self-righteous from the logical formulas through the Wondrous Mysteries in The Catholic Faith to be able to stand transformed immortally and spiritually incorruptible and Sanctified before the Family of God to be able to become again glorified and transfigured for all Creation in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.
Logically rebirth is through the New Eve for all Baptized becoming immortality through Holy Spirit Incorruption for all and salvation is Virgin Born for Jesus in the New Adam becoming through The Christ for all mankind from Sacrifice through Penance becoming forgiven in all mankind becoming again for all Creation in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, OMNiLogically.
We are Created failed from the spirit for the created souls of all through the created failed mortal flesh of Adam and Eve and We become from Baptism through the living waters for the created souls of all becoming immoral flesh from the Power of the Incorruptible Holy Spirit Family One God in being through the New Eve into the Catholic Church.
We first become brothers and sisters for all through the New Eve, i believe.
Co-Redemption is flesh nature rebirth from Holy Spirit Incorruption for all Baptized for Rebirth through the living waters for all mankind from Mary for all becoming Baptized becoming transformed brothers and sisters in all mankind through Mary from the living waters through transformed immortal flesh from the power of the Holy Spirit becoming for One Body for all in the New Eve.
There are two Sacraments from death to life, Baptism for rebirth flesh immortalization frmm Sacrifice through Penance becoming Holy Spirit Incorruption for all through The Christ. From the living waters in Baptism through The Blood of God from Sacrifice becoming again is for all through The Christ in both natures from the incorruptible spirit through the immaculately immortal life becoming for all Creation in One Body of Christ for all becoming again glorified and transfigured in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.
And we become Sons and Daughters of God for Jesus in the New Adam from Sacrifice in Penance forgiven through The Christ, I believe.
And Co-Redemption is from Sacrifice through Penance becoming Salvation for all becoming Sons and Daughters of God From the Immaculate Conception for Jesus Virgin Born in the New Adam becoming through The Christ for all mankind from Sacrifice through Penance becoming forgiven in all mankind re-Sanctified through the Words of Absolution from Confession in Penance becoming forgiven becoming in Communion with Him Confirmed and re-Sanctified through Holy Spirit incorruption for resurrection to be able to become again from death for all creation transfigured in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, I believe.
Gods in The Holy Spirit Family are all Gods, Mary is God, I believe.
Peace always,
Stephen
Mary IS co-redeemer, mediatrix (co mediator). Saying she isn’t is satanic. She herself declared this, as did many popes, bishops, and every sort of clergy before this new pope. Jesus IS redeemer and mediator, and the only one at that, the key word is CO. Mary isn’t redeemer or mediator she is CO redeemer and CO mediator. No catholic is confused by this except apparently the new pope.
Peace to all,
So true Sister Nightingale.
Mary is part of the Christ through the new living sacrifice that is the immaculate conception through The New Exe, truly God of Mercy Queen of Heaven, pre-existing in undefiled logical intelligence.
Peace always,
Stephen
I looked in four dictionaries, and two of them specifically indicated that one meaning of the prefix co- is “equal to” or “to the same degree.”
Some examples:
A co-worker is a fellow worker. The word doesn’t imply that the person is less important, less responsible, or less skilled than the other workers, even though the person might be; it does imply equal status.
A cosponsor (of a law, for example) is a joint sponsor; it might be someone adding a signature to someone else’s statement, or it could be one of two or a handful who are equally originating a proposal.
A copliot is an assistant pilot but has full responsibility for the safety of the aircraft and has the skills to take over if necessary.
A co-signer assumes complete responsibility for a debt and is fully capable of paying it if the main debtor defaults.
Jesus paid the debt for our sins, but Mary was not capable of paying it.
These co- titles given to Mary don’t come with asterisks and footnotes to say that she isn’t a mediator like Jesus and did not pay the price for our sins. So I would say that the titles are open to confusion if the Church doesn’t mean that Mary is an equal mediator and redeemer.
By the way, you said you would parrot me, Cade, and just this week I was reflecting that AI seems to be an artificial parrot rather than artificial intelligence. I’m not saying that you are really AI. Awk! Want a cracker?
Peace to all,
Sin is failed in two natures becoming fulfilled through the Immaculate Conception for The Eternal Priestly Authority, becoming in the Christ for all mankind.
Mary is God and Jesus is God and the Father is God in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, OMNiLogically, I believe.
Peace always,
Stephen
