Trump’s triumph seemed miraculous. He is so much bettef than the alternative was and I do sense a deepened faith this time around.
Wondering if anyone else agrees?
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I like to think so. God works in mysterious ways and you never know who he will pick to do different things.
I argue that I do not believe God actively willed Pope Francis to be our Pope. I believe the majority of Cardinals were not listening to the Holy Spirit, but were guided by their own desires.
Likewise, I do not believe that President Trump was re-elected by the Holy Spirit. I believe God allowed it to be in His permissive will, but not His active will. And not to mention, Kamala was just bad. Everyone who claimed to like her was pretending to like her. Whereas, those who love Trump pretty much worship him.
In full disclosure, I did not vote for Kamala, nor could I vote for Trump, but I know many Libertarians who did vote for Trump for the reasons that we are seeing. Elon is retweeting Libertarians ideas. Trump came to our Convention and said that he would put a Libertarian in his cabinet if Libertarians supported. Most Libertarians do not consider Viviek (who also came to our Convention) a Libertarian, but Trump probably does. RFK Jr. also came to our Convention and is (on paper) a life-time member of the National Libertarian Party, so technically Trump would be keeping his word if he puts Robert Kennedy in charge of National Health (which is a department that is by default, not libertarian). President Trump also said that he would #FreeRoss on Day One if we support him (we’ll see if he does this or if this was just talk).
Trump won, not because God actively willed it, but because he got about half of RFK Jr’s supporters and about half of the Libertarian Party’s support. And over half of the Catholic vote. Kamal was on the wrong side of Covid, the wrong side of Liberty, and the wrong side of Life. She was not on the side of God, so you could kind of say that God had something to do with this Election, though I think the Media’s lies had more to do with why many voted the way they did.
Don’t get me wrong, I believe God can actively will outcomes in our lives (we can theorize how God does this, based on Scripture, tradition, and analyzing our own lives), but I do not believe this election was decided by God actively willing it. Feel free to explain why you think I’m wrong. I like talking both politics and religion and I don’t get mad when someone has a differing opinion.
I support your right not to vote : )
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I think that a majority of the American people chose Trump. I don’t think that God chose Trump, and I did not vote for him (I voted for Peter Sonski of the American Solidarity Party). The people who voted for Harris must in general be OK with unrestricted abortion, since that seemed to be her main issue. “Hands off chemical abortion and IVF” did not seem to be as prominent in Trump’s campaign, but those who voted for him must, in general, have been aware of his position and presumably accept it. That would indicate that between Trump and Harris voters, the vast majority of American voters are not really against most abortions (chemical abortions seem to be the majority of American abortions nowadays). If we do not judge individual candidates as to their consciences and their salvation, we still can judge their suitability for public office and the morality of their campaign positions.
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Trump stands up for conservative values, which are basically Christian values. The Democrats on the other hand, were destroying this country. So yes, I think God put Donald Trump where he is for the benefit of the nation, and God’s people.
Thanks for the input guys. Interesting points.
By no means is Trump a saint. But I could not throw my vote away to make a point. He is the better of two evils. And in kamala’s case REAlly evil!
This is debatable. The Republican Party (under Trump), no longer stands for Pro-Life (according to the changes to their platform at their Convention). Many Republicans are now accepting of the homosęxuąl lifestyle and promote contraception. In my opinion (and you are free to disagree) there is little “conservative” about Trump’s new conservatism. Conservatism has become what Democrats were 30 years ago. The only good thing about this new conservativism is that they have pushed out the neo-Cons’ pro-war stance. Again, which Democrats were the anti-war Party 30 years ago. But, this is a good move for Republicans. The more that Democrats push for funding wars, the less popular they become.
I agree, so-called Progressives are more evil, but we ought to make a point not to vote for evil (and I know there are some in the Church, even Popes, who have argued otherwise). The “lesser of two evil’s argument” has been played out, but it works on those who are enslaved by the duopoly, so it is not a bad way to manipulate and to keep those in their camp voting for them. If it’s working, don’t change it. But, like the distrust in the media, there will come a time when Republican voters will turn on their masters.
We saw the Teamsters turn on Kamala after she acted as though she was entitled to their vote. We saw how many in the black community turned on their masters after Biden acted as though he was entitled to their vote. Republicans are falling into the same trap, by assuming they are entitled to the Christian vote, while promoting unChristian things. What we need is a Ron Paul libertarian who does not promote sinful behavior while also standing up for freedom under the law, as long as your exercise of liberty does not violate the life, liberty, and private property of another (in this order).
Trump has said some libertarian things lately, especially with Elon and Vivek entering into the public discussion. This is a good thing. Neither is libertarian (nor Christian), but they are promoting some libertarian ideas. Republicans have historically talked about “reducing the size of government,” but rarely deliver.
Elon is more Pro-Life than many Christians. Now if we can get him to understand that making babies with many women is not the way. Vivek is more Christian than many Christians. Now if we can Pray for His conversion to Christ Jesus, then we would be getting somewhere. I think it is for these reasons that I do not trust either of these guys. They are saying many of the right things, but their reasoning behind what they say they stand for is slightly tilted.
I am happy that Kamala lost, but Trump is not [y]our savior. Jesus is.
The Republican Party is focused on eliminating tax on overtime, Social Security & tips. Interest on automobile loans being deductible, a 10% cap on credit card interest rates, border security, peace & prosperity. The democrat party has shifted focus to abolishing Local Law Enforcement, hyper-inflation, feminine hygiene products in elementary school boy’s bathrooms, mediocre male athletes expropriating women’s sports scholarships, men in women’s locker rooms, pedophilia being an acceptable sexual orientation, gender changes for 4yr olds against their parents wishes, gender changes for criminals on Death Row, mass importation of dangerous violent criminal illegals killing, mugging raping and setting women on fire on NYC Subways, eating bugs to stop the sun from overheating the Earth, poverty, full-term, partial & after birth abortion and WW3.
Ron Paul did it first : )
Welcome Tom. The Republican party is the much lesser of two evils and with this party we have a chance of making some inroads on informing the country on abortion and immorality. With an independent vote we are merely making a statement that few hear. We must be practical. Wise as foxes!
I don’t know why they say a person must attend the Al Smith Dinner otherwise they will lose, and obviously Kamala skipped out, but Cardinal Dolan was the centerpiece of the dinner.
Cardinal Dolan was also front and center at yesterday’s ceremony swearing Donald Trump in and blessing it all. And Cardinal Dolans cathedral is a quick walk from Trump Tower.
Thus I’m not sure if it was God per se but there is clearly a lot of political influence involved, because Cardinal Dolan is more of a politician sometimes than a priest or a prince.
In the past four years Dolan was a very confusing figure on the topic of all the illegal aliens. Dolan was all for it. The more millions of fugitive foreigners he said all the better, basically, and criminal cartels are okay too, taxpayers need to pay for them and give them everything, and illegal aliens can do no wrong. This was the complete opposite of the Trump agenda. It was the opposite of common sense. And it was the opposite of obeying the law.
Trump did over 900 rallies and the American people are absolutely sick of Marxism and communism and woke pro-invasion lunacy. Common sense people have had enough of the DEI and CRT and being bullied by gays soy boys and transvestism. That’s why Trump won.
It is my belief the Catholic Church was fighting against Trump and the church was actually weaponized against the American people. I believe some priests should be investigated and held accountable for eroding the rights of Americans.
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Nah, I think that generally, people just got absolutely sick of so many lies and so much abuse and cheating and stealing.
Overall I have to admit my surprise at how foolish people behaved with the covid and the earloop masks and the “vaccine” mandates and “trust the science”. Honestly from my perspective in NYC, I thought evil had won and I thought we lost our fighting chance.
It got really grim here and people had lost their minds and they had little ability to resist against Marxist Satanist’s. I figured we were finished and evil won…
But somehow enough people came together and Trump was an unusually big deal.
I think there are other billionaires involved that might remain unknown for a while in their support of not just Trump but I think some billionaires had a change in heart about their evil intentions, perhaps.
I think the billionaires made the decision to go with Trump.
I think the shift of the mainstream media from ultra-Communist to ultra-MAGA it is being paid for by some unknown billionaire. Someone paid the media to make it MAGA and so MAGA is constantly winning now.
Trump also did over 900 trump rallies so that was significant
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Here in Ohio it was a Republican Governor who locked us in our homes, forced us to cover our mouths, and shut down our Churches. And then when it came time to vote him out, Republicans re-elected him! Why? “Lesser of two evils” nonsense. There was a freedom-loving Republican running against him, but the Ohio GOP has in their bylaws that they must support the Republican incumbent (no matter how bad he is). Politicians will keep doing retąrded things if you keep rewarding them. I refuse to. I voted for the guy who does not want to implement red flag laws and does not have messenger RNA flowing through his veins.
There is a long list of individuals who will be running for Governor of Ohio in 2026. And Libertarians have ballot access again, in spite of the Ohio GOP trying to prevent us from being on the ballot.
It is rumored that Vivek Ramaswamy may enter the race. He debated Clint Russell at our Libertarian National Convention. Both did great, but Clint won that debate. Vivek rambles. But, would I take Vivek over whoever else the Republicans put up? I would. Will I vote for the Libertarian to maintain ballot access in Ohio (a rule put in place by the Ohio GOP to kick Libertarians off the ballot back in 2013-2014 to ensure Governor Kasich’s re-election) over voting for Vivek, I would.
If the Ohio GOP was smart, they would work with Libertarians for liberty, not against us. They shoot themselves in the foot and then look at us like we are their enemy. The Ohio GOP is corrupt.
Hitler died April 30, 1945. Trump was born June 14, 1946.
Trump was born about 13 months after Hitler died.
God had nothing to do with Trump’s rising to success. Satan is behind Trump’s success. Trump went bankrupt at least nine time. He refused to pay Hispanics workers who built his buildings what he owed them. He hates people of color and has thrown them out of his New Year’s Eve parties. He had no money before his TV show. Trump was possessed, controlled, and succeeded because Satan set the path for Trump to Satan since he was a child.
Satan laid down Trump’s future with the plan to destroy the United States and Satan is winning. The losers are hungry children and families without healthcare and poor educations, with all the education money going to voutures for private and religious schools leaving no money to educate the poor, which is what the oligarchs want.
Ignorance is bliss for the rich.
All Catholics and Christians who believe Trump is a Messiah have been fooled by the best-Satan. I hope this country will return to what we were, and I pray everyday people start to wake up and undo his Trump/Satan evils.
You my friends who voted for evil were programmed by the best to vote for evil—the devil.
Are you presupposing that Adolf Alois was reincarnated after his death as Donald John Trump? 
There was a Catholic on The Apprentice named Tarek Saab and he wrote a book titled “Gut Check,” which I have read.
I think the term “people of color” is derogatory. It is no different than using “colored people.” (all they did was switch the order of the two words and ad an “of” to make it sound fancy). I choose not to use this term. As far as Trump treating so-called “minorities” (another term that I do not like) poorly, there have been stories of Trump doing very kind things toward individuals whom you call “people of color.” I do not believe Trump is “a racist” (for the simple fact that Democrats tend to call anyone who disagrees with them “racist,” which weakens or diminishes the term.
This is only speculation on your part. I did not vote for President Trump, but I do not believe he was groomed by Satan to become President.
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My daughter is able to attend our Catholic School, because the money that we pay to government for education actually gets to go toward sending our youngest daughter to the school that values our Catholic Christian Faith. Our oldest daughter is going to government school. She only has a a few more months until she is done. Our government school is not a bad school. When I listen to the school board meetings, they cry like you are about how the private schools are stealing all their students. I can tell you that our Catholic School is better than the government school. My youngest can read faster than I can (and she’s only in second grade). I invite you to listen to this Soho Forum Debate on the topic of school vouchers from a Libertarian perspective.
I would argue that you have also been deceived if you think Kamala is the opposite of evil, because Trump is evil. Both can be evil at the same time. “The lesser of two evils” mantra is a tactic used by both Republicans and Democrats. I voted for neither of these two evils.
I have a few questions for you. Are you Catholic? Did you vote for Kamala? How many “black and brown” babies lives are snuffed out by abortion? Do you believe abortion is evil. How do you define “evil”? I define evil as anything that goes against God’s will and/or ordered design.
What did Satan try to tempt Christ with - the three temptations?Wealth power and security.What is being offered to the world today?The words of Christ are easily forgotten when your eyes are on the gift being offered.The bible clearly warns of this.The bible says Antichrist after Antichrist will come until the last one. It says we are in one of the most evil times in the world.There is no good side your just fooling yourself they are all corrupt its time to admit this..So what do you do follow the words of Christ or follow the world and its ways. You get to decide.
The book of Revelations tells me how people will decide and what path they will follow - they will make the wrong decision taking the wrong path its been foretold.We are not entering a great time with material wealth raining down on everyone as promised we are in a power grab by the rich to retain their wealth and power as the world goes down.They will fail as foretold.
The church has lost its spiritual authority over its people because it has sided with the powers of this world and its politics.It will continue to erode unless it turns back to its spiritual form rejecting the world and its ways.
Mixing politics with religion just corrupts the Church.The Church should be a place of rest from that fallen world out there for a period of time before you have to go back out into it.
Would someone from God be offering you wealth power and security?
The enemy has been chosen first migrants and this action will spread to all countries it already has.Then the poor any help will be gone and they will be looked down upon as the problem.Then anyone who speaks out about it jailing people will become the norm for speaking out against the powers that be.
The previous administration jailed prolifers and tried to jail Trump. Don’t see where your preductions are coming from. Dismantling DEI and squashing the LGQBT forces must be God’s work.
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