Change my mind posts, Good Idea or Bad Idea?

So, I thought it would be an interesting idea to do change my mind posts. Basically, I would pick a topic about Catholicism, or the faith, and ask everyone to change my mind. Or, you could start with a topic and if I disagree with you I could argue my side. And there would only be one rule which is to have a civilized discussion (which means, no cussing, no judging, no name-calling, no insults, etc… just a discussion. Even if we come to a point where we agree to disagree would be fine).

I wanted to do this, cause Charlie Kirk, who is my inspiration for doing this, always thought having civil discourse was a good thing. And I think because a good and Godly man died, I think it would make his death not be in vain.

But I want to know what the forum thinks.

Would making a post such as a Change My Mind post be a good idea?
  • Yes, given that it is a civil discussion, I don’t see a problem with it.
  • Yes, but only if…(Type in the comments what you want to see be enforced)
  • No, only because, I can see things getting out of hand.
  • No, this is not the time nor the place.
  • No, we’ve had this happen before and things got out of hand quick.
  • Not sure
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Peace to all,

Can The Holy Family transform your mind?

Logical Gods preexist from undeflied intelligence for the created souls of all through the flesh of the Immaculate Conception through the New Eve, Mary becoming of The Cathoilic Church from the Power of the Holy Spirit incorruption for Jesus in the New Adam becoming The Christ in all mankind.

I believe Mary is God, logically, thus faithfully verified through the logical formulas of the Wondrous Mysteries through The Faith.

Peace always,
Stephen

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I don’t usually try to change people’s minds, but if I have a different opinion I will present it politely (I hope).

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Peace to all,

Changing the Mind could be becoming to The Undefiled Prexisting Logical Intelligence never failing in all cases and is OMNiLogically The Mind of God becoming again in all One God in being The Family, I believe.

From the Same God from the Faith of Abraham, Who is The Holy Spirit? Who is Our Father?

We become reimaged into the Father, becoming Logically, Physically the Mind of God never failing in Only One Way, through both natures from the spirit through the life for the souls of all becoming again for all creation in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, I believe.

Peace always,
Stephen

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Stephen, I’m not going to argue against you. Mary is a Goddess, because just like everyone else, Mary has divinity within her. But all of us have God within us, because all of us come from the same Source: God. This is why I call God Source, cause everything originally came from God.

The one half-truth that a lot of people have bought into is, that we cannot do anything without God. That we are to rely on God, because relying on our own spirit (which again, originally came from God, in fact, our spirits used to be a part of God) is sinful. But that’s just a half-truth. Yes, if it wasn’t for God, none of us would be here, this is true, but our spirits at one point was a part of God.

Something that not a whole lot of people remember (keep in mind I didn’t say what a lot of people know, I’m saying what a whole lot of people don’t remember) is that we are God. We are not our bodies, we are not our minds, at our core we are a beam of unconditionally loving light. But because the incarnation/reincarnation process completely wipes our minds before we actually incarnate/reincarnate on this plane of existence, we have abandoned one of the most precious gifts that God Himself has bestowed upon huemanity, the gift of creation (or in other words, manifestation).

You see, God is in everything. He’s in the grass, the trees, the birds, hueman beings, computers, printers, tables, etc… God is in every single thing. But us huemans have the ability to use the divinity within us to make this world such a better place. The problem is, when we were little and easily impressionable and easily manipulated, we were told that thinking you are God is sinful. That it is because of Pride that huemanity has fallen short of grace, and that the only way to get into a state of grace is to accept Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior, and to eat of his body (bread) and drink of his (blood) to have eternal life.

Here’s the thing, Jesus is more than willing to help anyone. I have called upon him myself before, so Jesus most certainly helps. He’s helped me in more ways then I can count. But Jesus did not come down to this planet to save other people. No, instead he came down here to awaken the divinity in all of us. He came down here to get people to realize that he wasn’t anyone special. He was hueman, just like the rest of us, the only difference between us and him was he was born enlightened. But just like everyone else, Jesus had Free Will, and just like everyone else, he had a choice to choose evil or good. So Jesus spent his childhood testing things out. In the Gospel of Thomas (a precious piece of the divine puzzle that was banned from The Bible) there’s a story in there about Jesus and another little boy. I don’t quite remember what the story was about, but if I remember correctly, the other boy made Jesus really upset, and Jesus pushed him off a cliff. An adult who was nearby pointed at Jesus and he said “What did you just do?! You murdered that boy!” And Jesus realized that, what he did was wrong. So Jesus resurrected the boy from the dead, because he didn’t realize that that was wrong, but at the same time he was a little boy, and when he was a little boy he had to learn what good was. And apparently the poor little boy had to learn lessons the hard way, but as he kept growing, he eventually learned right from wrong. This is why his ministry was so beautiful, because Jesus was relatable. He was loving, and chose love ultimately over any kind of evil this world likes to sell. When Jesus said he was the son of God, he didn’t mean that he was the literal son of God. Son back then mean’t that he was an extension or a creation of God, just like a painting is an extension of the painter. Yes, in public he spoke in parables, because he couldn’t just say what it is he wanted to say, because most people wouldn’t innerstand. But some of his disciples he did reveal a lot about our reality and how it actually works. He never had to speak in code with them, he chose them because he knew that these were the 12 men he could trust and talk to. The secrets he told some of his disciples were in the banned books. And yes, he even trusted Judas too (which is a whole other discussion).

Many people believe that I’m involved in New Age Spirituality, but my beliefs are all in the banned books. Just like Jesus did when he was alive, I too am questioning authority. If everyone knew what I and a few others knew, they would be questioning their respective religions up and down as well. There’s a reason why Jesus was considered a rebel for his time, because the religious leaders were trying to control the masses by coming up with some of the most absolute ridiculous rules. We have to remember, the religious people back then wanted Jesus dead, because he spoke the truth. And you would think that, of all places, Rome would innerstand that killing that man was an absolute mistake. That killing that man was wrong, but no. Rome pretended to feel guilty. Constantine was just as bad, if not worse, than the rest of those Romans. So what he did was he came up with his own skewed version of Jesus and his story. Constantine didn’t feel terrible for him dying, instead he used his death as a way of controlling the masses.

The truth is, we are the Christ. We are not Christians, or Catholics, every single hueman being on this planet is the Christ. We are the second coming! We are going to be the ones to save ourselves! And that’s exactly what is happening right now. More and more people are waking up each day.

The power has been inside of you this whole time, but this system we were born into wanted to suppress your true nature, your divine nature! They want you to feel powerless, they want you to give all of your power to God, because if you are powerless you are easier to manipulate and control! I’ve seen what hueman beings can do. I can make it rain if I want to. I can make the sun come out if I want it to. I can bring down the humidity if I wanted to. I can even teleport if I wanted to. And that’s because I have a divine spirit inside of me, just like the rest of huemanity. Believing that you can’t do any of those things, and that only God and Jesus can do these things just isn’t true. But because some of your limiting beliefs are core beliefs, your divinity is suppressed and your gifts stay dormant. Once you realize that you’ve had the power this entire time, the power structure in this Matrix we live in will weaken. Wake up! Take back your power that was literally taken from you, because it is your birthright! It is not a sin to want to have knowledge of Good and Evil! God doesn’t want us to remain ignorant sheep. God doesn’t desire for his Creation to be blind to what is really going on! I have seen some of the most amazing things! I remember I remotely was working with another woman, because over the phone she was panicking that a tornado was going to hit her house. So what I did was calm her down, and told her to manifest the tornado away. So, over the phone, I said “Start telling yourself ‘The tornado missed our house.’” And I told her to focus on drawing the tornado away from her home. And I did the same thing I told her to do, and all of a sudden, over the phone she said “Oh my gosh! OH MY GOSH, THE TORNADO IS GONE!” And I said “You’ve always had the ability to do this m’am. Do you believe me now when I say that we are the Christ?” And she said, while she was crying in joyful tears “Yes, yes I believe it now!”

Take back your power! Eat from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil and reclaim your Godhood that Yaldobaoth (or the Demiurge) tried to take away from you! I know it’s hard, because we were all told from a young age that God will take care of all of our needs, but because God is in each and every one of us, we have the ability to take care of ourselves. Yes, we had to be taught good from evil, but most people know not to commit crimes or atrocities. As long as you follow the law, and try to live by the 10 Commandments, that’s all you need to do, cause everything else you can do yourself!

My prayer is for all people to realize that we are all One, and when we all put our heads together we are unstoppable. “When 2 or 3 are gathered in my name, know that I am with you.” When 2 or 3 Christs come together, there’s nothing we can’t do!

So you see Stephen….we are Gods. Again, we’ve been given great power, so let’s not use this gift for our own gain. Instead let’s use this gift to help others! Cause with God, anything is possible!

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I wish I had your thoughtfulness Literalman….cause sometimes I think I’m too forward. I just have a burning passion for the truth, just like you and everyone else.

I used to be a lot more argumentative. I matured and mellowed as I got older. I read in a book once that one of the characters, if he had met a man dying of thirst in the desert, couldn’t have convinced the dying man that water was good for him. That’s about how successful I am at arguing. :slight_smile:

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How did Charlie Kirk really die?

Which is more likely? (ranked-choice-voting)
  • Kid in love with a trans-person shot him with his grandpa’s antique
  • Charlie is not dead. It was staged. He is hanging out in “Valhalla”
  • Charlie & his team were trying to fake his death, but something went wrong
  • The Mossad took out Charlie under Benjamin Mileikowsky
  • Someone from Turning Point USA had Charlie killed
  • Democrats had him assassinated (perhaps funded by George Soros)
  • The United States’ CIA/FBI neutralized Charlie
  • Candace Owens did it and is framing Turning Point
  • Ben Shapiro put a hit out on Charlie
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Anyone who is following the Charlie Kirk investigation, this is huge! TurningPoint played a promo at an event where Charlie Kirk says, “I leave Turning Point to my Wife,” but donors who were at the event where the footage was supposedly taken from, claim he never said this. Well, Candace dropped something huge this week stating that she has a creditable source who said someone from TurningPoint USA inquired services from a Company that does this very type of voice and video recreation!

Yup…you guys don’t realize this but, the news you watch on your televisions is not actual news. It’s basically a bunch of actors who are pretending to be news anchors. You’re basically watching a bunch of non-sense. Charlie Kirk’s murder was staged and it wouldn’t surprise me if he is in hiding to protect himself.

I don’t watch the news on television.

I’ve thought about this. And I believe Charlie was trying to fake his own death, because his life was threatened, but when the device exploded, a piece of plastic flew off and struck his neck, causing his actual death. And now, I believe individuals are trying to cover it up. That is where I’m at right now.

As we learn more information, my hypotheses may change. What I do know is that the official narrative doesn’t make sense and those who should be investigating this, are not. One agent who was investigating was taken off the case three months in. He too has questions.

I don’t watch TV news either. I also would not form an opinion on Kirk’s death without getting the evidence presented to the jury.

I’ll be honest, I’ve stopped following the man’s death, because unfortunately you’re probably never going to get a straight answer. There are people in very high positions of power who have money falling from the sky. Candace I believe really is trying to get to the bottom of this, but, these people hate people like Candace or Charlie, and since these people have loads of money, this situation isn’t going to see the light of day. I’m not saying that to be a horses a**, I’m saying it because, unless you are filthy rich, you’re probably never going to see what really happened, or if you do, it won’t happen till several years later. It’s basically gonna be another Epstein situation…because Epstein’s victims still have yet to receive answers, and that whole ordeal is taking forever to get taken care of. I’m pretty sure that he faked his death, probably got a tip from someone who hangs out with the higher ups, and was told that he was going to actually die if he didn’t do something about it.

@Literalman Agreed…but, there’s just so much insanity going on right now, you have to wonder sometimes what’s true compared to what’s actually being reported. It’s sad that we can’t trust our very own news stations to be honest, but this is the age of misinformation, and boy is it rampant.

I would love to be on that jury, but I’d probably be rejected, since I am too familiar with the case.

For sure! Candace was a big part of getting Turning Point to what it became. Unfortunately it is being hijacked and turned into something that Charlie never intended it to be. You are right. There are powerful donors who did not like what Charlie and Candace were saying right before Charlie was taken out.

I was never a fan of Charlie Kirk. But, when I saw that he was a a good Husband and a Dad, I came to respect him. I do have questions about Erika (his Wife). I don’t think she murdered Charlie. I do think she should have just been a Mom to these two children who lost their Dad. Many people donated to her GiveSendGo and she and her children would have been set for life, but she would rather be CEO of Turning Point and that is why individuals like myself have lost sympathy for Erika.

There are also a lot of questions about Erika’s story and some of the things she has claimed are turning out not to be true. And that also makes individuals question the narrative.

I also have questions about this Catholic Priest who introduced one donor to Erika after Charlie’s death. He could be innocent in all of this, but I have questions. And where is Charlie buried? They supposedly had a Catholic Funeral Mass for him in addition to the glamorized Memorial Service that was televised.

I’m curious…as a parent, do you worry for your children? Or your children’s children? Cause some of this stuff like literally 20 years ago was unheard of, and now all sorts of absolutely crazy things are happening. I mean…as a parent, who do you trust? Because someone could look like a completely normal person on the outside, but on the inside could be rotten to the core…

As Christians, we are not called to live in fear. Our children are entrusted to us by God. We try our best to bring them up in the Lord and to protect them, but ultimately it is God whom we trust.

There were shady people back when I was growing up, you just didn’t hear about it as much, because news was more local. I remember my Grandma telling us when we went out to ride bikes around the neighborhood to avoid “Chester the Molester’s” house. I don’t know who the many was, but I knew which house was his and that we were to be aware.

I think it also helped that neighbor’s knew each other back in the day. Often our Parents would know the trouble we had gotten into before we even made it home. There are more renters today than in the past, so people move around more than they evert did when I was growing up.

We moved once when I was growing up. We moved from in town out to the country and there were pro’s and con’s to each. Growing up in the country was a lot of fun. Sure we didn’t get cable TV (it was just channels 3, 5 & 8 and sometimes 43 if you could get the rabbit ears tuned in just right). We spent a lot of time outdoors, camping, playing “manhunt” and “bloody wolf” with our friends. We made forts and played in the crick. I had a great childhood.

I had a lot of cousins too. Families today are much smaller than they used to be and I think that is sad. Part of is is because I think people are fearful to bring life into this world, because they consume so much news. An unhealthy amount of news.

I just spent a week with no access to the internet (which meant no news either) and I can tell you that the world is pretty fantastic!

I like discussions. But I was constantly dissapointed with other people. Often I found a closed door very fast and I pretend.

But even IF I do not, most of the time moderators in other places cannot handle anything slightly more intellectual, or rather say, more religious (note, it get blur here) . When I found out I am having another wall outside. Every single time. Even from the most open groups. I have to drop or agree

Fine I go catholic. But that’s more like going home after a desperate attempt to get somebody, be it a partner or friend. Even though I ended up empty handed. It’s like, you are trying to go out to have fresh air, but you end up being back where you started. As if we got no one but ourselves, with every single door shut, tighter than ever

You guys seem to able to handle the weight more than any other such groups. Moderating such ideas as the OP suggest is a crapload of work. Especially emotionally and intellectually.

Should moderators can take the responsibility and have such capacity, then go for it. Otherwise prepare to have the topic end up either closed or dead.

That is my take. But I think you guys might be the ones who can do it. You are going a dead hard way, but so as the fulfillment if you are sucessful

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Sigh. Did you read and comprehend the catechism of the catholic church.? Or rather, the concept of trinity. This is not trinity. Mary does not belong to the trinity.

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When God creates, he can create things that are not him, or he can create himself. It’s basically using himself to create, anything he wants.

So originally, therefore, we had never existed. And you might even say, we had never be God as in Himself. It never occured. And we never are. The only reason we are here is because of God. Do we rely on him? Depends. Whether you want it or not, depends on the person.

But changing the reality around you is not as easy as what New Age claims. We are not gods and will never be until we achieve it. You can see it as our purpose, but we are not quite there.

Plus our imperfection means we have inherit flaws that without help we will never come. We are stuck in a loop until we cry to God, help me please. Whether you see it or not, it us here. At many many times, studying a New Age book and understanding it alone will give you nothing. If it does, it’s not from God and is something pertains to the occult. But whether it is something similar to our modern technology, probably yes or probably not. For topics like magick and occult, it’s another area.

Learning to rely on others therefore is very important. Learning to rely on God as well as being an ‘independent’ person at the same time is also important. You cannot just think away things just by thinking. Even the art of thinking is an art to be learned. If you count such as magic, then magic must be learned. Like everything else.

And by the way, going a bit off topic. Do not ever expect that any supernatural books will be honest with you. Take a look at Regardie’s The Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn. Reading the LBRP (lesser banish ritual of the pentagram) and understanding it is next to impossible. The last time I ever understand it was because I traced the ritual and saw two pillars. And not to mention, because you are accidentally open yourself up from a pool of potential errors from flawed meditation practice all over the internet. You are playing with fire. Occult techniques are SO PRONE TO EEROR that a slight off balance can get you into huge trouble. Worst off, random mind techniques alike has all kinds of effects that vary greatly from person to person. These ones you mention are magic equuvalent. So stop using them. Please. Many people use them and get desire result and they are just lucky. Just because many people practice new age does not mean they are fine. Every single new age friends i had ended up being possessed by spirits at one stage. One time I had to deal with a strong one who aimed at me. Not fun. Would it be other people. The damage will be huge.

So please. Stick to a slightly easier way. I cannot guarantee you to get what you want, but I guarantee you a dose of fulfillment. God is nice. Talk to him. Come back to us.

(Edits, blame my phone lol)

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Once you stop all you practices and sit down with a Bible, pen and paper. Try feeling the fresh air. Put down all the stuff you do and hide all the seals (talisman such as evil eye, flower of life etc) , symbols, and crystals. No more new age grounding. Just physical activities. Look outside, go to the park. Stuck yourself in busy traffic. Look at the beauty and grand scale of creation. Good, bad or evil.

Doing so, I am prerty sure, your current thoughts will instantly dissappear.

I am trying to change your mind. Dare giving a try?

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