Problematic Forum Troublemakers

QUESTION:

Why are members such as @AveMaria continually permitted to post OFF TOPIC posts, stir up trouble, treat others with disrespect, unjustly judge other members, and attempt to create division in the Church?

I just don’t get it. This member has been warned, and warned, and warned. Yet his inappropriate posts continue to be created.

Just when we think the forum has been rid of most of the habitual problematic troublemakers … then the bottom drops out and here they are again, with the same exact craziness.

Within the last hour, here’s yet another one of his posts…

How to get more people using this board, to make things more interesting and to get fellow Catholic back - #20 by AveMaria

Note that the Topic of the thread is “How to get more people using this board…”. Yet this problematic member posts off-topic. Also note that he’s unjustly judging and targeting other members. lastly, his post also includes judgment upon our Catholic clergy in attempt to create division and the tearing down of the body of Christ.

:glowing_star: I’m on the fence about requesting from the Admin to delete my membership account here. I clearly understand why many many Catholics register a user account here, then abandon ship and leave for somewhere else that doesn’t tolerate problematic forum users. Do genuine Catholics really wants to be a part of craziness?

I’m also beginning to regret that I’ve recently sent quite a few inactive members a message inviting them back to the forum for fellowship, telling them that the forum community has evolved and that we have recently added many new Members and new spiritual resources that we hope will bless your faith journey.

Sorry that you are deciding to quit.

But yes, a good forum needs good strong moderating. That is just a rule of life.

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@Cade_One and @Literalman and @jcs and @dreamerdad I’m requesting my Catholic Talk forum user account be deactivated and/or deleted please.

I’ve already removed much of my personal information from my Forum Profile to prevent problematic users such as @AveMaria from such.

If you want this forum to be CATHOLIC, where Catholicism online can flourish and reign, to see Catholics proliferate and dominate in forum membership, have courage. I will be more than happy to clean it up.

Cleaning up this forum isn’t hard, and it’s not difficult.

However, in departing, it’s only fair that I share the reasoning behind my decision to leave.

So… I find myself become overly agitated and loose the peace and joy I so much love when repeatedly presented with unbridled problematic forum members here at Catholic Talk forum. It isn’t that I don’t value debate or non-Catholic discussion, because I do, and have experienced much growth as a result from it. But rather, for me, it’s counterproductive to my (and others’) spiritual health to harbor discontent.

It’s probably for the best that I revert back to participation in other Catholic discussion boards where problematic forum users aren’t an issue and resolved quickly.

It’s been a pleasure to have participated with the majority of the members and I truly appreciate the opportunity to contribute.

:heart: I wish everyone the best. May the peace and grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all.

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The post was an answer to another: 100% pertinent. Is the problem that some consider truth inappropriate and divisive? Why? Some chose to stick to untruths and lies and avoid any rational debate, and recur to ad hominem arguments, since they lack any counter-argument?

Luke 12

51 Do you think I have come to bring peace to the earth? No, I have come to divide people against each other! 52 From now on families will be split apart, three in favor of me, and two against—or two in favor and three against.

53 ‘Father will be divided against son
and son against father;
mother against daughter
and daughter against mother;
and mother-in-law against daughter-in-law
and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.

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You just called me an asshole. I never insulted anyone. Ever. Who’s the one who should be expelled for lack of charity?

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DO NOT RESPOND TO MY POSTS UNTIL YOU RESOLVE YOUR ANTI-CATHOLIC BIAS AND SEEK MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELING.

Accusing someone of being anti-Catholic and mentally sick because he makes off-topic posts? I can understand demanding that someone be banned from a forum, but this seems like it’s completely un-charitable.

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:heart: Thank you. I appreciate your feedback and very much value your input. It are forum members such as yourself that are needed here.

But actually, I’m trying to make a point. And your input confirms all that I’ve posted about, that forum members should have boundaries and not willing to compromise values and morals for the sake of ego and pride, such as that/those of @AveMaria

If anyone were to get banned, it is probably me who is most deserving of all offenders. And that is because … "I respond with TRUTH", at least that is what others such as @AveMaria also claim as justification for flagrant posts of disrespect, intention to cause division, degrading the honorability of our clergy, slander, and defamation of the Church.

I am extremely passionate about our Faith, and the Church. In the past I’ve been lied to by protestants, been a victim of schism, manipulated by others with selfish motives, and have had my salvation put to risk by negligence of anti-Catholic heretics.

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Hay, I’m just posting the “truth”, which is exactly what you also claim. Do you have a problem with TRUTH?

No problem at all. And the “truth” is also why I called you out to being an asshole.

Calling you an asshole isn’t an insult, because it’s “truth”, as you put it.

Are you now saying that there should be limits to speaking “truth”? because that was all that I was saying, and speaking “truth” just as you do.

Do you have a problem with “truth”? Do you consider “truth inappropriate and divisive” as you quoted?

Because if you don’t have a problem with “truth”, as you’ve described, then you also shouldn’t have a problem with the truth that you’re an asshole.

:heart: Oh! how I love the “truth”, and the people who uphold the “truth”, regardless of what the “truth” is.

@AveMaria you’re truly an asshole, and that’s the “truth”. And that’s 100% pertinent, as you say.

Calling someone that isn’t very Christian. You’ve gone and inscribed it in bold capitals letters across the screen on a world-wide public (Catholic ) forum.

(I’m only intervening because, despite it not being my business, it is one of only a few paragraphs short enough for me to get through without my patience quickly waning).

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You shouldn’t really throw the idea of ‘mental’ illness at people, questioning their sanity and therefore persona. Two wrongs don’t form a…

(I’m only intervening because, despite it not being my business, it is one of only a few paragraphs short enough for me to get through without my patience quickly waning - as said to someone else).

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@Tommy, I think your behavior in this thread is just as inappropriate. I am doing my best to clean up this forum, but it takes time.

I have seen you make threats and now you are name-calling, which is not helping. This being said, you have been a help and I hope you will continue to be a help. Keep flagging posts that you find problematic, but also, try to be a positive here as well. Don’t let a badge and a gun lead to your own demise.

I know that if you had your way that every single person here would be banned, including the moderators. I don’t know that I could live up to your standard. And honestly, I do not know if you have lived up to your own standard.

Be patient and rather than treating everyone (the moderators included) as enemies. I assure you, I am not as evil as you think I am and honestly, I do not think that everyone here is evil either.

Yes, there are some who are here for ill intentions and that is what we are trying to discern. I am not as quick to ban as you would be, nor do I take banning someone lightly.

Young people are used to growing up in disposable world. They jump from one platform to another without thinking twice. Rage-quitting was not a term when I was growing up. Cancel-culture was not a term when I was growing up. Instead, we were taught, “Sticks and stones may break my bones, but word will never hurt me.” This younger generation was raised believing that “words are violence!”

So, again, I appreciate all that you are doing and I thank you, and please be patient. I do have a life and other responsibilities outside of CatholicTalk, but I do find value here and have met some great Catholics (and even some non-Catholics Christians, but who are not anti-Catholic).

We could turn this into a reality show, where we vote others off the Island ; )

I have a feeling I would be the first to be voted off though.

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Cade, you’re the Catholic Social Butterfly of all the men here haha. I seriously doubt you’d be the first to be voted off.

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