So normally I type in paragraphs, cause unfortunately, unlike most people, I think in paragraphs and not sentences. So, hence why I’m typing an entire block of paragraphs all the time, but I’ll try to make this short and to the point.
The biggest thing I struggled with when I was a Catholic Christian was all the doubts that I had. I was a diehard Christian for the first 16 years of my life, but I also was the most skeptical Christian too. I would never debate someone who was Christian, just because I always felt that maybe these doubts that I have was just me overthinking something. But, I remember, after everything that has happened to me, and after doubting for a good chunk of my life, I remember when I, myself, searched for the truth and didn’t just go off of what everyone else said. And, when I found out what it is I really truthfully stood for, I didn’t doubt anymore. I found when I truly put any piece of information that I looked at on trial, I found out what it was that truly resonated with me.
Some of you converted to this religion, while others have either found this religion or have been involved in this religion your entire life. I’m curious to know, what doubts do you deal with, if you deal with any doubts?
First, I want to say that doubts are natural. And that it is good to question what we believe?
My brother says that when he was young, he was not allowed to question matters of Faith. He also suffers from Middle-Child Syndrome ; )
I do not know if it was how he asked the question or the timing of his question or his perception of being shut down. I was not there, so I don’t know how these interactions played out truly.
A few years ago, I attended a talk on a College campus titled, “How to bridge the gap between Conservative and Liberal Catholics.” I was curious, so I attended. Even though this event was held on a College Campus, I was the youngest person in attendance (and I’m in my forties)! It was sold as a debate, but it was really one man playing the role of two opposing individuals. Essentially he was straw-manning the other point-of-view. He was playing a character. Afterwards they set up two microphones and invited individuals to come up an ask questions.
I quickly realized that someone was controlling the microphones. If they did not like the question someone was asking, the microphone was turned off by someone at the sound-board (I assume). I tried looking for a switch on the microphone itself and there was none. This frustrated me. I was already nervous to be in front of a large crowd (of mostly people in their 60’s, 70’s and 80’s). I did not find this experience to be enjoyable at all.
I came back to the Catholic Faith, because she was a firm foundation and what I was seeing was this foundation withering away. What I was feeling was Righteous anger.
Afterwards, I had some individuals come up to me. A few thanked me for being there, none-the-less. Another tried to get me to go on a Jesuit Retreat and said that then I would be on his side.
The truth was that I was on neither of their sides! I was on the side of truth and protecting the Apostolic Faith that had been handed on throughout Christendom. If I wanted a fluffy Church, I would have remained in the non-Denominational Church that God was leading me beyond.
And this talk (or one-man-play rather) did nothing to “bridge the gap” between the two factions. If anything it divided the two even more.
Ironically, I was wearing a shirt that had a liturgical Prayer in both Latin and the vernacular. Looking back that we fitting, because I see value in some of the views of both sides, as well as disagree with both in other ways. I do not claim to have all the answers, but I did question and clearly, the organizers did not like that.
I left thinking, What about waste of time that was. I genuinely thought someone wanted to bridge-the-gap (bring sanity and healing), but that is not what this even t was about. It was about politicizing the Faith, which is not good and true.
There is a feeling of peace when everyone agrees. I don’t want everyone to agree on something that isn’t true. And if you become a one-man-show, there is peace in your belief, because you only have to agree with yourself (which I would argue is not good either).
We believe that God created man and saw that it was good, but did not want him to live isolated, so he created woman. God then told them to be fruitful and multiply (inviting them/us to participate in His creation). God’s Covenant was first in the context of a Marriage, then a household, followed by a tribe, then a national kingdom, and lastly fulfilled by Jesus in the context of the church.
Scott Hahn illustrates this in his book, “A Father who Keeps His Promises.”
Should we question this? Many throughout salvation history have.
Is it wrong to question God? No. The Apostles, who died for this Faith, asked a lot of questions of Jesus (questions that may sound dumb to us, because we know the full context and have the benefit of hindsight). It is not bad to question. What is bad is when we rely on our own understanding and this understanding leads us to turn from God, or worse, to worship false idols or make idols of oneself.
When you Pray, do not be afraid to ask God what questions you have or the things that concern you. I’m not sure if I answered your question, but these are the random thoughts that came to my mind when I read your post : )
In the celebration of the Eucharist, bread and wine become the Body and Blood of The Christ through the power of the Holy Spirit and the instrumentality of the priest. The whole Christ is truly present – body, blood, soul, and divinity – under the appearances of bread and wine, the glorified Christ who rose from the dead. This is what the Church means when she speaks of the “Real Presence” of Christ in the Eucharist.
Peace to all,
So true Cade_One, The Graph is self explanatory, i believe.
The Church is from the flesh of Mary and The Spirit is for Jesus in immaculate flesh, becoming the Eucharist for all through the Christ.
The Covenant Mediator is The Holy Spirt Family One God in being, I believe. Created from The Father transformed immortality through the Mother for the Son becoming through The Christ in all mankind becoming again in all glorified and transfigured in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being from the Covenant Mediator Family, One God in being.
The Eucharist is considered “the source and summit of the Christian life” in the Catholic Church, as it contains the whole spiritual good of the Church and the New Eve: Mary flesh immortality and Jesus Holy Spirit incorruption through two natures in One Body. It is a sacrament and a sacrifice, where the one-time sacrifice of Christ on the cross is made present at every Mass in an unbloody manner. Receiving the Eucharist (Holy Communion) is believed to unite the communicant to Christ, nourish them spiritually, and deepen their unity with the Church.
Logically the “Eucharist” is the Holy Spirit One God in being and is The Holy Family conceived becoming alive through “The Word becomes Flesh” and living through Mary in The New Eve for Jesus in the New Adam becoming through The Christ for all mankind.
The logical Eucharist is The Family of God from Mary for Jesus becoming the Christ in all mankind.
The Real Presence is The Holy Family conceived for Jesus in The New Adam from Mary in The New Eve becoming through both natures in The One Christ in all Mankind becoming again in all Creation One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.
The Logical Christ is immortality from Mary through the immaculate flesh nature in the New Eve for Jesus in the New Adam from the Nature of Holy Spirit Incorruption becoming through two natures in One Christ Body for all mankind becoming again in all through “The Eucharist” in One Holy Sprit Family One God in being.
I’ll go one step further, it’s good to question everything, because everything is not what it seems.
Probably because questioning the faith can lead to doubt. My family is very strictly Catholic, so I get it. People get so triggered when you question their faith, they will even sometimes look at you as if you just murdered someone. Most people hate me, but I question things because, I said this once and I’ll say it again, trust no one. I’m sorry but there are people out there who will manipulate you till kingdom come, especially if you are a Catholic/Christian. You guys are constantly being manipulated, and not only is that not fair, it’s just really nasty behavior. I used to be a master manipulator myself, but I don’t manipulate people anymore. I’ve learned that, in a way, it’s trespassing on someone’s Free Will. I’ve learned that if someone doesn’t like something, you make sure you remember what they don’t like, so you don’t make the same mistake twice.
I like how you don’t assume. Thank you for not assuming anything. I need to be better at that myself honestly.
Ah, biases. Not good if you’re searching for the truth. Biases only get in the way, and sometimes can trick you into seeing something as true. The current system doesn’t just play with our ego, but it also plays on our emotions. Learning to separate your emotions from what is really true is a feat within itself. Shame they muted the microphone….we need to have more civil discussions and not biased information.
You’re better than I am then. My doubts were a lot. Every single day I walked with so much doubt inside of me. I just wanna know the truth, honestly at this point I don’t care what the truth is. If the truth is Jesus, I’ll follow Jesus, if the truth is being a Muslim then I’ll worship Muhhammad, but I want to know the truth because my life has been nothing but a series of lies, and boy did I fall for a lot of them.
I don’t want a fluffy Church, honestly I don’t want a Church period. Religion was made by man, and The Bible was written by many men. I wanna do what God wants, and not from someone who was “inspired by God.” It’d be different if The Bible was written by 2 or even 3 people, maybe then it would seem more believable, but the fact that there were multiple authors who supposidely got all their inspiration from God, is very hard for me to believe. It’s no different than saying “I think the Democrats and the Republican’s in the United States can be trusted.” Sorry, when you go to vote, you don’t just vote for just anyone. You vote for the candidate that has the best policies and mindset. There’s just too many people involved that there has to be some level of corruption. Sorry but even just changing one word can change the entire meaning of the sentence or sometimes even the book. We need to stop with the retranslating, cause it’s really doing more harm than it is good.
Why do you think religion was made? To divide people. My favorite is how the Catholic religion boasts of being the true religion of Jesus Christ. Well, while that might be true, I believe there is more truth than what is in the Holy Bible. I think we can learn from a variety of religions.
Of course. How dare you question anyone, especially those in authority? After all, those are huemans too, and we’ve seen through the years good Church Hierarchy and bad Church Hierarchy. I’m sorry but having a degree means nothing to me. Learning how to be self-sufficient is tough, but it’s doable. For years, mankind only had itself when it came to inventing things like the wheel. So, it’s not beyond us to be self-sufficient, because not being self-sufficient is what the terrible rich people want from you. They don’t want you to be self-sufficient, cause then you can no longer be manipulated. Shame most people don’t know how to be self-sufficient. Even I’m still teaching myself how to do things.
I spend hours at a time researching stuff, and I feel like I’ve found some major peace in what it is I’ve learned. This is the type of peace I’ve been longing for for forever. So, I get what you’re saying but something I’ve learned about the truth is that it’s stranger than fiction.
He created men and women to work together and not demonize eachother. This idea that one sex is better than the other is so stupid. And now both sexes are the problem, it’s no longer just one sex that’s the problem, it’s both sexes now. And this is because people think they are somehow above someone else. That’s not how it works on Earth. No one is above or below anybody else. Everyone is learning at a different pace and a different speed. I’m just happy to learn, and if I learned how to do something the wrong way, at least I’ll know for next time not to repeat what it is I did wrong.
Question everything. Put every piece of information on trial. Man may whisper in error, but with the help of our divine gifts of discernment and intuition, we can quickly pick up on what is true and what isn’t. Your soul responds to you everyday through bodily sensations, and knowing what these sensations mean helps you to figure out if an illusion serves you or not.
Well, most people won’t innerstand what it is I believe in, and that’s ok. I will gladly stand alone, because I do not have any doubt in my mind what it is I’m looking at is true. Not a single doubt. And it really is true, the truth will set you free!
Death to life is from the spirit through the souls of all for the flesh becoming again in all One God in being.
For Catholics, properly understanding rebirth and salvation is from Baptism becoming “reborn” through the Mary in the New Eve transformed immortality for Virgin Born Jesus in the New Adam from Holy Spirit Incorruption becoming The Christ in all mankind from Sacrifice through the Penance becoming in all forgiven and “saved” reimaged glorified and transfigured becoming again in all One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.
Ha-ha! A couple people came to my mind when I read this. I know individuals like this. And a couple of these individuals are Catholic. Others are in the cult of wokeness (their preachers are on TikTok, not in a Church nor the Bible, and if you question their ideology, they get so angry and sometimes become violent). I think that both of these examples stem from either insecurity, mental illness, or both. And often these individuals will take your critique of something they believe as a personal attack on them, because they have made it their identity.
I try to understand that we do not all believe the same things. And rather than force someone to believe what I believe (either through violence or government force) I simply share what I believe and why I believe it. And if the other is calm enough, I ask them what they believe and why they believe it.
I’ve often been accused of being a peace-maker an instigator (depending who you ask). I am not easily offended and I like to ask people questions, so it appears that I am stirring the pot. I do want there to be peace, but I also want people to be able to share with one another, even if they do not agree.
I am an amateur manipulator ; ) Just kidding. It sounds like you have matured or experienced what I would call conversion (or growth).
I define religion as what someone believes and acts upon. Most people are religious, even if they do not admit it.
Some Protestants run away from the word “religion” like a vampire flies away from garlic or the sun. They instead will say they have “a relationship.” And I am saying that these two things are opposed to one another. You can have both.
Many New-Agers will also run from this word “religion” and cling to the word “spiritual.” And again, I do not see these two things as being in opposition to one another. I believe we can have both (because we are made up of matter and spirit).
Some religions are made to control people (and usually these are cults that separate man from God, and make gods of men).
Jesus, though He became fully man, is fully God. And He did not point us to Himself, but to God our Father. Mary is not God. She does not point to herself, but to her Son, our Savior (who is God). The Successor of St. Peter, our Bishops and Priests are not gods. They point to God.
This Sunday’s First Scripture Reading, on The Solemnity of Our Lord Jesus Christ, King of the Universe, talks about how shepherds are very common in communities. It also talks in the Second Reading about Jesus being the head of the body of Christ.
On Twitter yesterday, the debate of the day between Protestants and Catholic Christians was Matthew 16:18-19, where Jesus gives “the keys” to St. Peter. Some Protestants argued that we all receive keys, which is a misunderstanding and flawed theology to support one’s belief in Sola Scriptura. But, if you read Isaiah 22:22, you will see “the keys” mentioned there as well. Keys in the Bible represents authority (as not to control and divide, but rather a responsibility to hold to truth, to unify, and resolve disagreements). If everyone are given a key, there would be chaos, disunity, and un-resolve.
This is how the argument goes. Protestant: Christ is the head of the church. Catholic: We believe that Christ is the head of the church (the mystical body of Christ). It is in the Bible (Colossians 1:18) and the Catechism (paragraph 789 & elsewhere). And Jesus gave the Apostles and their successors the authority & responsibility to shepherd on Earth after He ascended into Heaven. Protestant: God gives everyone the Holy Spirit. Catholic: Yes, Jesus gifts every Baptized Christian with the Holy Spirit, who counsels and guides. This is different than giving everyone authority (“the keys”).
Obviously every conversation goes a little different from this, but this is generally what I witness yesterday (among those who were not simply responding based on anger or emotions).
The Eastern Orthodox Church have a valid claim to this as well, because we were once one Church. We both have Apostolic succession. And we believe man of the same things (while disagreeing on a few things). Since the split, there is disunity, but I have a lot of respect for my Eastern brothers and sisters. We do not have any control over what our parents did.
Though it may sound like we are boasting, we are pointing out that Christ Prayed for unity and gave us the tools to preserve unity, but as human beings do, we try to do it our own way and not God’s way, which leads to Christians believing everyone has “the keys” and that their personal key is shinier than everyone else’s key. God loves all of His children, the erigant and the humble, but lets some take their inheritance and squander it, waiting for them to come home. And if and when they do return, He embraces him, has a joyous feast, and puts a cloak around him and new sandals on his feet.
Most Catholic Christians would agree with you. There is some truth in most religions. But, we would say that the fullness of truth (Jesus Christ) is found in the Church that Jesus established in the Apostles.
I think I agree with this. The Bible talks about discerning (which means “to sift”).
This is where we disagree. Feelings can lead one astray. Some take drugs to “elevate” their soul’s receptors. I sometimes think this opens one up to some dark things.
My friend once gave me some “cough syrup” when I was sick. What she did not tell me was this was mixed with Codeine. It made me feel amazing! Sounds began vibrating in my veins. I sat watching her toddler roll a Thomas the Train around a track for a half-hour. The sound of the squeaky wheel of the toy would echoed in my body.
I’ve heard that doing Heroin feels like Heaven while it is in you, but feels like Hell when it isn’t.
I’ve never been drunk and I’ve never “tried” weed. Addiction runs in our Family, so I choose not to become a slave to such things.
God does not want us to stand alone. He would have created Adam and only Adam. Or if you don’t believe in Adam, then He would have created a bunch of “mans” in their own “Earths” (living alone). The name “Adam” means “man of the earth.” But, that is not how God created us to be. We were not made to stand alone.
What you say is true rings untrue. Is it your ringer that is broken or mine? I just remembered that the Prodigal Father also gave to his son a signet ring, which symbolizes the son’s full restoration as a son of the Father and the family. The child who wondered alone is no longer alone. This also reminds me of the “Lost Sheep.” The Shepherd leaves the others to search for this one lone one.
The truth will set you free, but the truth is not hidden knowledge nor a feeling. The Truth is a person and His name is Jesus : )
From Romans written by Saint Paul remindng us we are created from the Father transformed through the Mother for The Son becoming The Christ becoming again in all One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.
Romans 11:36
New International Version
36 For from him and through him and for him are all things.
To him be the glory forever! Amen.
It was just back then they left the Woman out of everything, I believe.
Today do you think they would leave the Mother of God out of “The Trinity?”
Through all generalizations, from the logical formulas of the Wondrous Mysteries through The Faith From Abraham The Family Gods become again concieved in the flesh nature, from the Gods wanting fulfilled incorruptible love through an immortal Body becoming again One God in being now transformed in Two Dimentions, well, flesh and spirit infinitely fused from infinite disciplines unknown to mankind reimaged becoming again glorified and transfigured in all One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.
A Wonderful Family. Father Son and Mother in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.
Well, I’m with Charlie Kirk, we have to have conversations. Sometimes when we converse with someone they might say something that we haven’t thought of before. I like having conversations with others about these things. I just wish more people would converse instead of giving someone the cold shoulder or walking away.
Well…I’ve learned the hard way, but sometimes learning the hard way is the best way to learn too. It all depends on how you look at it I suppose.
Well, then that’s what we call a productive argument. When both parties are simply just stating their position and not resorting to violence or name-calling like some people do.
Never heard it put that way (I get where you were going), but that’s really kind of cute honestly lol. Going with my beliefs, it’s something that is inescapable. When you incarnate/reincarnate down here, you are God. And like it or not, everything that you learn, God also learns. Even in Atheists, God is still a part of them. He made our souls, and puts some of his divinity on them, so even Atheists who claim to not believe in God are actually doing God a favor anyways, cause according to my beliefs, God learns through his Creation. God doesn’t just show up in the 3rd Dimension, so he creates a spirit in His likeness and imbues it with Free Will and basically everything that happens to that spirit, God learns from. We’re almost like organic tape recorders, where everything that happens to us God knows about it and learns that way. That’s why God knows so much, cause he puts Himself into His own Creation to learn more about what it is he created. Same goes with animals, and minerals, and rocks, literally everything is how God learns.
Well I respectfully disagree, but I do believe that some people do benefit from this religion, I will say that much.
I feel like those are divine gifts for sure.
I guess I should’ve been more transparent. When you have a feeling about something, like going to someone’s house and on the way there you get a bad feeling. Or being around someone who has a weird vibe to them. Your gut instinct (That I consider intuition and discernment) is one that you always listen to it, especially when it’s trying to get your attention.
I have a story about discernment and intuition. So my friend, who is very disabled, one day told me that his friend, Brad (name changed for privacy) needed a ride to a club, because it was Brad’s birthday. Well, I didn’t really care for Brad, because Brad has used me (and my disabled friend) numerous amount of times. I told my disabled friend I never talk to him, cause I don’t really care for how he treats my disabled friend at all.
Well Brad needed someone to drive him to a gay club in this particular city of where I live. And it was funny cause after Brad told me that, my blood pressure spiked, and I was pacing back and forth really nervously. I had a really bad feeling about something that would happen that night.
So I texted both my Friend and Brad and I said “Brad, I’m sorry but I have a really bad feeling about all of this! I refused to drive you down to a club, cause something isn’t sitting right with me. Well Brad, of course, responded saying “It’s my birthday you P.O.S., I bet you made up some story about not wanting to drive me down to this city.” So he said all sorts of curse words and stopped talking to me.
Turns out, several hours later, I get a text from my disabled friend and he said “You doing ok?” And I said “Well Brad basically cussed me out, but I know something bad was going to happen if we would have went down there.” And my friend said “Well, apparently Brad didn’t listen to you cause he got r*ped.”
That was the kind of feeling I was talking about. I know what you meant by what you said, but when you have feelings like that, you always listen to them, because it saves you a whole lot of trouble.
Oh and I’ve never done weed or any hard drug. I know some people do drugs for Spiritual reasons, but I’ll always do something naturally. I have no desire to be on drugs.\
I just mean’t on Spiritual matters, but I agree. What did it say in The Bible? No man is an island? I agree with you on that. But when I talk about my beliefs, usually in that situation I am the only one standing. The only difference between believing what it is I believe in now, compared to the way I was growing up, I don’t have any doubts. And don’t worry, I fully expect people to roll their eyes, call me names, or just walk away, because that’s always how it is. But I stand by my beliefs 100%. Plus, I don’t get triggered anymore when someone talks about God or Jesus, cause I believe in the same thing, it’s just not the same way others believe. I just don’t wanna be manipulated anymore, and quite honestly, I don’t get manipulated. And, it’s probably because of my insatiable desire to learn, even about the bad things. Cause if you learn something the wrong way, you can always try again and get it right the next time. Learning is paramount to me. If I’m not learning about something, then there’s something very much wrong with me.
I learned to Play piano in Columbus Ohio from a great man from Singapore, and since have forgotten his name.
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Catholicism is Faithfully what the Church says and is also bound by the Moses seat from Rome, logically, and to me Logically Jesus and Mary are Gods preexisting in undefiled intelligence logic proving Them Gods from preexistence, non-created being and personal God in being from the Holy Spirit Family One God in being and are the two “New Trees,” becoming “One New Fruit” Baptized becoming One Body in the Christ for all mankind from Sacrifice through Penance forgiven becoming again for all creation in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.
OMNILogically, For from him and through her and for him are all things. In The Holy Spirit Family One God in being be the glory forever! Amen.
From the logical formulas through the Wondrous Mysteries of the Catholic Faith we become again for all creation in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, OMNILogically.
Logically God created two trees, failed, spirit and life becoming again in all through the two new “Fruits” from the two new trees, from the tree of the incorruptible spirit through the tree of the immortal immaculate life becoming “One Tree” from One “New Fruit” through One Two Nature Christ becoming in One Body becoming again One Family.
God of Justice, Jesus, Eternal Authority of Spirit is Virgin Born in the New Adam through Mary from the Immaculate Conception, God of Mercy from the Transformed Immaculate Flesh becoming immortality in all through the New Eve becoming the Body of Christ in all mankind.
“Surely you will never die,” is both the truth and a lie in the same line. The Devil is the trickster, and what a liar and becomes transformed into the image of the Father of Lies, a snake, I believe, choice is the trickster, I believe giving us the failed spirit choice of “Fruit” to love or love not causing loss of the “Fruit” to live mortally failed forever through the mortal flesh. Both Adam and Eve give up their own mortal life for the love of the other, becoming again fulfilled through His Passion.
But Jesus fulfills both natures Arked to Earth from the Power fo the Holy Spirit Family One God in being through the New Covenant for the flesh with choice becoming again loving only and loving with only the most love manifested eternally and incorruptibly from The Holy Spirit Family incorruption in The New Adam though immaculate flesh immortality from The New Eve becoming Baptized in One Two Nature Unfailing Flesh Undefiled Spirit and Life Body for the Christ in all mankind through two natures fulfilled from The New Adam and New Eve Confirmed natures from Sacrifice through Penance from the Priests Words of Absolution in Confession becoming forgiven and in Communion with Him becoming again in all creation One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.
Jesus said, “What is it to you if he remain alive until I return, You must follow me.”
We will never die of The Spirit becoming through the flesh becoming again through both natures, One God in being a Family again.
Hidden is the logical truth becoming again from both natures in One Holy Family, I believe.
The Life “Fruit” is from the tree of Life, Eve. The Spirit “Fruit” is from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, Adam.
Here is the example from The Vatican document, Mater Populi Fidelis , issued by the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith (DFF) with the approval of Pope Leo XIV, stresses that Jesus alone provides the means to redemption, and Mary herself must be recognized as His disciple. The document states:
Given the necessity of explaining Mary’s subordinate role to Christ in the work of Redemption, it would not be appropriate to use the title “Co-redemptrix” to define Mary’s cooperation. This title risks obscuring Christ’s unique salvific mediation and can therefore create confusion and an imbalance in the harmony of the truths of the Christian faith, for “there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved” (Acts 4:12).
What the Vatican does not understand is the Logic of the Mind of God becoming again in all creation, One Family.
The Vatican states, “Mary’s incomparable greatness lies in what she has received and in her trusting readiness to allow herself to be overtaken by the Spirit. When we strive to attribute active roles to her that are parallel to those of Christ, we move away from the incomparable beauty that is uniquely hers.”
To me, rationally,logically and faithfully, Mary is the Christ together with Jesus the Christ, both Christs, One Flesh Christ and One Spirit Christ becoming One Body of Christ, “One Fruit.” One Sacrifice becoming again in all creation One God, One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, OMNILogicalGod.Com
The Christ’s work is through Mary for Jesus becoming the Christ in all mankind. We logically can see clearly that the Vatican does not properly understand The Christ becoming again in all creation One Holy Spirit Family One God in being. The Vatican also cannot see logically the Holy Spirit as The Family of God becoming again in all creation One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.
Logically the “New Fruit” is both trees fulfilled becoming from the incorruptible Spirit through the immaculately immortal life becoming in One Body in the Christ from Sacrifice through Penance from Confession in hearing the Words of Absolution becoming forgiven in all through both natures, spirit and life becoming again in all creation One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.
The “New Fruit” is the Host, transformation becoming immortality glorification becoming incorruption transfiguration becoming again through transformed immaculately immortal flesh from The Holy Spirit Family incorruption in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.
Peace always,
Stephen
The Logical Pen of Jesus and The Holy Family
Yes, simple life, but the biggest thing I struggle with is for all Catholics that think the Holy Spirit is a person, rational misunderstanding The Holy Spirit as a Person? and not understanding, OMNiLogically that the Holy Spirit is the preexisting Family of God One God in being. The Misunderstanding of The Holy Spirit in Catholicism is the confusion that surrounds me logically and, and without ever stopping, I tell the same story 11 times a day, 5 don’t want to hear about the Logic of The Mind of God, 5 do not understand the logic for the many many reasons, but 1 gets the logic of The Mind of God, becoming again in all One God.
I even sometimes begin, maybe Muhammad is right? One God. Our brothers are the Muslims, I believe and Well, logically prophet Muhammad is correct.
A Muslim brother I have become to know over 25 years ago brought me to the attention, to The Family of God is the Holy Spirit through the years of knowing his Family. And I always tell him, become Catholic, and he, I thing agrees, but? We are still talking. I tell the Jews the same story and all hear the same story, most say, I never knew Jesus? Created from the Father through the flesh all mankind is Jesus preexisting God of Justice through Mary, preexisting God of Mercy in Our created souls through our created flesh becoming through The Christ for all becoming again in all One Family.
The Catholic Trinity Logic is wrong so guess what, so is the Reformations Trinity Logic, and so is the Amish and the Mennonites all from the Reformed Christians who have tried to manually perfect what is derived from infallible logical intelligence undefiled unfailing Family wisdom and improving Gods Word? from Catholicism brought from Egypt to Jerusalem through the Ark in The Exodus from Moses. Let me be perfectly clear, logically, Mary is God, I believe.
And thanks for reading.
EarthsStudent, in all generalizations? Why did they leave Mary out of the Trinity from the 1st and 3rd century Forefathers of Trinity?
No one logical argues the Mother of God preexisting as God before creation in logical undefiled intelligence logic becoming to earth through the flesh? Why can’t finite earth see logically, “The Mind of God?”
The logical Mind of God makes One Catholic delivered from Moses as baby found crying in an Ark on a river bank found through the maternal instincts of the Pharaohs Daughter and raised and educated through Egyptian roytalty with his mother in the Pharaohs Castle Egypt. Moses delivered the Ark through the Exodus and through the New Exodus The Christ resurrects spirit and life out of the “Tomb” of Jerusalem becoming again through both natures in One Family.
The greatest gift is not in receiving but passing out the Keys to the Kingdom, EarthsStudent, your job is to take the “Keys” to the Catholic Church, I believe.
St. James wrote that we should test everything and retain what is good.
Stephen Andrew: hello in Maine. My aunt Sylvia, who died 8 years ago, lived a lot of her life in the South, called everybody “Honey,” and had what sounded like a soft Southern accent. Only at her funeral did I discover that she had been born in Waterville, Maine.
So true, the southern accent is easy to listen to and is hard to loose once learned, I believe.
Maine is nice and really cold for at least three weeks, other than that the weather is rather nice an a bit cooler than most.
St James refers to salvation and the good works of the flesh, I believe.
This teaching I believe also appears in the New Testament book of 1 Thessalonians [1]
In 1 Thessalonians 5:21 , the King James Version of the Bible states, “Prove all things; hold fast that which is good”
Some of the reformers wanted to take The Book of James out of the Bible, I believe.
On a side note, do you think The Holy Spirit is the Family of God? So far about half the people think the Holy Spirit is the Family and about half believe teh Holy Spirit is the person?
Maybe can you get Cade_One to do a survey? Thanks, LiteralMan, and to me, Cade_One is Open Disciple to all as One in being as seen here in all what I have witnessed.
Jesus says that the rule of real spiritual life is to love the Lord our God with all of our mind, heart and strength. Anyone who is not is this position is ruled by doubt. Anyone who has a pinch of desire for something other than the pleasure of God, with every thought, word and deed, is experiencing doubt. It may not be conceptual, or logical doubt. But it is doubt of the heart……because the heart wants something outside of the boundaries God’s pleasure.
It doesn’t matter if one is Hindu, Christian, Muslim or Jew. The concept of spiritual life is that we are simultaneously individual and part of God. Like the cells of the body……simultaneously individual and part of the body. Or the leaves on the tree….simultaneously individual and part of the tree. Individual, but never separate. All the leaves need water. The atheist leaf tries to water himself, but is never satiated. A few of the leaves want to water the others, but cannot open the door to eternal life for them. But if one leaf waters the root of the tree, he serves all the others and satisfies his own heart. This is the spiritual equation, spiritual logic. We are meant for giving pleasure to God. Then the result is, “My cup runneth over.” (Psalm 23).
When we are not wholeheartedly feeling in that way…….this is doubt. One may say, “I believe.” But his consciousness wants independent satisfaction ………. independent of the satisfaction of God. This is doubt. One who knows God is free from doubt. Material desire is an expression of doubt. He is a “church member” in name; but he is still a materialist……not yet purified of self-centered desire, not yet wearing the “yoke” that enables Jesus to say, in every circumstance, “Not what I want, but whatever You want, my Lord. Not my will, but Thy will be done.” This is freedom from doubt.
So one may think, “This spiritual life is so austere. No pleasures of the flesh, of owning possessions, give everything to the poor and follow Jesus, no sex life…..this is such a high price to pay for going to heaven.” But this is only because we don’t have spiritual life yet…..just a nice concept, nice idea. Real spiritual life is so full, so filled with the ecstasy of love of God, that one throws away all self-centered desires…….like garbage in the city dump. That is the sign. That person has no more doubts. Straight is the way and narrow the gate. That’s my understanding……even though I can’t do it yet.
I get what you are saying. I feel uneasy around individuals who are drunk, but this isn’t intuition, but a fear of being around individuals who do not have control over their behavior (which probably stems from my Dad often being drunk when I was a child).
That is a crazy story about your friend’s friend, “Brad.” I thought you were going to say he was killed when that gay club was shot up down in Florida, which would have been even crazier, because I personally know the EMS who was the first responder after that horrible event!
My co-worker’s in-laws were killed in a plane crash. They had friends who were supposed to be on that flight had their son not had a bad feeling about it and they decided to not go.
My Sister on the other hand was a worrier and any time my Parents were going to visit my Step-Dad’s Sister in the City, my Sister would not want them to go, because she thought something bad would happen to them. Nothing ever happened to them. This was more of a fear from hearing the Nightly News on in the background. My Parents still watch the News every nights. My Sister is now grown and doesn’t own a TV. I don’t know how she online dates. That would freak me out. She’ll meet randoes and go on hikes in the forest with them! Nope! Maybe I watched/listen to too much true-crime these days : )
I know we discussed online dating in another thread; I and my wife met through Catholic Match five years ago this month. But I wouldn’t have tried any other online dating site. Also, I was giving it a try. I wasn’t desperate. I’m not saying your sister is, but some people I’ve talked to who used online dating (and not Catholic Match) did sound kind of desperate, and I think that’s dangerous.
