Both the LDS President ("Prophet") and Pope Leo Clarify teachings on Marriage & Family

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Last week, the LDS President (“and Prophet”) Russell M. Nelson clarified their teaching on Marriage and Family (towards the end of the video).

Two weeks ago, Pope Leo corrected something that Pope Francis had said about Marriage and Family as well.

And I’m sure Reformed Protestant and Evangelical leaders have also been clarifying their teachings on Marriage and Family, because there is a lot of confusion these days about what Marriage is and what Marriage is not.

Now if we can get Catholic Bishops & Priests to do the same (and maybe some have), but I’m just not seeing it.

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Can you tell us briefly what they said, or do we have to watch the videos to find out?

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Peace to all,

No one quite gets the logic but through faith we are saved, to me.

Logically spirit intelligence comes from choice defiled and fallible through the created souls genetics for the flesh in the body to manifest from the selected choice spirit intelligence becoming the image of the selected spirit intelligence to become again infallible logical fulfilled intelligence in One Body.

Logically the Family unit is the Trinity becoming to earth through the immaculate flesh of the New Eve and The Holy Spirit through the New Adam in Jesus becoming The Christ in all manking becoming again One Holy Spirt Family One God in being in all generalization, to me.

Peace always,
Stephen

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The LDS “Prophet” clarified that Marriage is between one man and one woman and that Family values are important. The LDS Church has not always held this view, so if they can get it right, then why Can’t Catholic Bishops?

Pope Leo corrected the confusion caused by Pope Francis, in regards to Marital grace. Pope Francis tried to suggest that we should re-think cohabitation. And that non-Sacramental Marriages also receive graces. Where he got this idea from, is unclear. This slippery-slope opens the doors for recognizing sąme-sęx so-called “marriages” in the Church, which is heresy. There can be no such thing, because these so-called spouses cannot consummate their Marriage. And though God can bestow graces on anyone He wants, the Sacraments are the intended means by which Christ’s graces are poured out.

Pope Leo clarified how much Sacramental grace helps Married spouses and encouraged individuals who have cooperated with God’s grace and have been Married for a very long time should share how much God has done for their Marriages with others, as an example to young people. It has been a few days since I watched this video, but that is what I recall.

Both the LDS and Catholic Christian Churches have way higher divorce rates than we should. And redefining Marriage to mean what the world means by “marriage” is not Covenantal. Jesus did not come to cohabitate, which is two lives living side-by-side. He came to have Covenant with us, which is two become one. And how does one enter into Covenant? As Christians, we enter into Covenant through Baptism and it is sealed by receiving the Holy Eucharist and Confirmation. As Married couples, we enter into Covenant through Wedlock and it is sealed by Consummation.

Both of these rites involve making vows and honoring God. In both of these Sacraments, there is a giving of one body to another, uniting in one love, which produces life. Jesus says if you are not Baptized and do not receive His Body & Blood, you do not have life within you. If one is not validly Baptized, he should not receive Holy Eucharist (the Early Church Fathers talked about this). If one is not validly Married, he should not partake in the Marital act. In both instances, one would be receiving unworthily and does not produce life and covenant, but rather spiritual death.

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Peace to all,

The two Sacraments from death to life are Baptism and Penance, Transformed Immortal Flesh and Incorrruptible Holy Spirit respectively, becoming again glorified and transfigured in One Family to me.

If the Spiritual model of the Trinity were logically correct, then the Church can point to the Logical Trinity, From The Holy Family, From the Father through the Mother for the Son becoming the Christ in all becoming again One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.

We become again the image of the selected spirit, The Holy Family One God in being.

True by faith in what the Church says the Trinity is we are saved through faith, to me. I am not arguing the Faith of the Trinity in the Church.

Logically the Family unit is the Trinity becoming to earth through the immaculate flesh of the New Eve and The Holy Spirit through the New Adam in Jesus becoming The Christ in all manking becoming again One Holy Spirt Family One God in being in all generalization, to me.

Pope Francis to me was trying to get all in the face of The Holy Family, to me. He saw Faithfully perhaps the Logical Holy Family himself as The Family and could not put The Family into words, logically, to me.

I am not judging or preaching or proselytizing only generalizing and only for our own souls, to me.

Peace always,
Stephen

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Cade, you implied that non-sacramental marriages do not receive graces. Some Christians do not consider marriage a sacrament; some do not acknowledge sacraments at all. But I believe that God would bless couples who sincerely and properly enter marriage. Or would you consider it a sacrament even if the church and couple don’t call it that?

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I said that God can (and does) give graces to whomever and however He wants. I think it is a slippery slope to highlight that God blesses individuals who are playing house (cohabitating). Does God bless individuals who have not been Baptized? Yes. Do we then celebrate people not getting Baptized? No.

If I have confused anyone, I am not saying that individuals who are not Sacramentally Married cannot receive certain graces, but what I am saying is that God give specific graces to those who do it God’s way and not man’s way (courthouse by the Mayor, or on a beach by a friend who purchased the title “reverend” from a website for the sole purpose of marrying someone—never mind that this individual is not even Christian and many mock God—#NotAll)

I’m also not saying that we are more special than others. God loves all of his children, wherever they are on this journey. I’m simply saying that it does a disservice to give people the illusion that Sacramental Marriage is unimportant or that Baptism is unnecessary. Or that secular so-called “marriage” is the same thing as Sacramental Marriage. Or that Marriage is between one woman and one man. The next push after the trąns nonsense can go one of only a few ways. Most likely the next push will be for normalizing Polygamy (which the LDS Church has already tried and now rejects, rightfully so). Some sects of Islam still allows it. The secular push for this has already begun with television programming glamorizing individuals participating in Polygamy. Polygamy is in the Bible as well, but it is not viewed as a good thing, though God can bring good out of a bad situation. It does not mean that the situation is good.

And this brings me back to Pope Francis and his comments causing confusion. And Bishops celebrating “pRıDe” Masses! Are they shepherds or are they wolves in sheep’s clothing? Whom do they serve? God, man, their politics, or evil itself?

If I’m getting wordy, it is because I do not want to cause any confusion, as it appears some of what I said earlier did that. So, I have to say what I am saying, as well as what I am not saying.

To summarize:

  • Sacramental Marriage and Baptism are ideal.
  • In Sacramental Marriages and Baptism we enter into Covenant.
  • God gives graces through these Sacraments.
  • This does not mean that God does not give grace to individuals who are ignorant.
  • God does not bless sin. He does lead individual to good, if they are open to co-operating with God’s help.
  • Bishops and Priests have a duty to protect truth from error and do their best not to confuse the Faithful and the world.
  • Meeting individuals where they are is good; participating in, or, God forbid, affirming nonsense is bad.
  • The Church is not a democracy (thanks be to God).
  • Truth is not subjective. Preferences are. We must not confuse the two.
  • I am not more special to God than anyone else, but this does not mean that we are not special to God.
  • The Bible does not glamorize polygamy; Other religions do (and I’m including LGBTQA.i.+ as a religion).
  • The LDS Church is headed in the right direction.
  • The Catholic Christian Church is headed in the wrong direction.
  • Some Catholic Bishops (including Pope Leo) are preaching the truth; too many are not.
  • Pope Leo is appointing men who push their preferences, rather than protecting the truth.
  • The definition of pervęrsion is "the alteration of something from its original course, meaning, or state to a distortion or corruption of what was first intended.

It is my Prayer that God blesses the Apostolic Christian Church (The Catholic Church) with good Bishops and new Priests who understand the importance of leading people to truth and not to their preferences. Also, I Pray for the church (all Christians) that we seek God and His ways and not our own fallen desires.

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Peace to all,

“And this brings me back to Pope Francis and his comments causing confusion. And Bishops celebrating “pRıDe” Masses! Are they shepherds or are they wolves in sheep’s clothing? Whom do they serve? God, man, their politics, or evil itself?” Cade_One

To me the confusion is in the logic, Pope Francis is bringing all in the face of God, to me, rationally.

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When you say “to me” are you implying that you are God or do you mean “to me” as in you believe?

I think Pope Francis did what Jesuits do. They preach Christ’s mercy, but tend to neglect Jesus’ follow up, which is, “Go and sin no more.” Jesus did, and does, not affirm individuals in their sin/disorder. He delivers them!

Some Christians will do this thing where they will make their identity, as “sinner” their identity. What I mean by this is, it is good to admit that we have/do commit sin (even as Christians), but some Christians highlight their sin, as to say, that we are no different than non-Christians in this matter.

Scripture does say that we are measured by how we judge others, but this is not a loophole to be exploited. What do I mean this? Some think that by saying that we are all sinners, that sin does not matter, and thus making their concupiscence their identity.

The problem with this is that it cheapens what Christ has done for us and does in us, when we seek His grace. It says that we are who we are and Jesus can’t help us overcome sin and death. This is a lie. A lie that we as Christians must reject.

And if Pope Francis was simply trying to bring souls to Jesus, (in a disingenuous way), as St. Paul says, “I became all things so that many might be saves…” (1 Corinthians 9:22), I believe this is a sort of bait & switch. It rings of dishonesty to me.

Perhaps I am misinterpreting what St. Paul is saying here and what Pope Francis was doing. I do see it as causing confusion. If St. Paul was talking with individuals from the trąns community, would he dress in drąg? If Pope Francis wants to make individuals from the LGPTQA.i.+ cult feel welcomed (and I do believe it to be a cult), would he make a mockery of the Sacred Liturgy by draping rąinbow flags on the Sacred Altar? Some Bishops and Priests are doing this!!!

Jesus met individuals where they are in their everyday lives (at the well, in the streets, and everywhere in between). He did not corrupt Sacred places to do so. If He wanted to reach the money changers and merchants in the Temple, some today might think Jesus was wrong for flipping their tables in righteous anger. Some today might think that Jesus should have put up giant “Sale” signs and banners to promote what these people were doing.

This is why the Pachamama scandal was not good. We can be respectful of others’ Religious beliefs without corrupting ours. When Pope John Paul II kissed the Quran, he was wrong to do so. And I love JP2, but we must call out scandal when it happens if we want to restore the truth in Christ’s Church. And, we must do it in righteous anger, and not out of hate.

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Peace to all,

So true Cade_One, to me is only logical.

Logically, Jesus is present before Creation was ever created was even created as Eternal Priestly Authority of Spirit and Life, making Jesus God from preexistence. So for the Mother and the Father, logically in One Holy Family of God in God in being. To me logic works.

We already know Faith saves. We can become to know logic allows all mankind to understand the Mind of God to understand “Born Again” becoming from the New Eve and saved through the New Adam in the Christ from the Cross for all blood and water brothers and sisters of God and children of God becoming again reimaged and “Saved” One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.

His Excellency, Most Holy Father Pope Leo XIV has background in Mathematics and logic is common nature for The Successor of Saint Peter today and The Vicar of Christ.

Logically Three Gods preexisted before creation and each God is separate in being and personal Gods preexisting in intelligence logic and personal Gods in being equal in the powers of God and together One God in being. We are created From The Father through the Mother transformed for the Son becoming the Christ Holy Spirit Incorruption becoming again in all glorified and transfigured, reimaged in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, rationally, to me.

Creation from the Father Co-Redemption is From the Annunciation through the Immaculate Conception for the New Eve Mary becoming immaculate flesh transformed flesh immortality from the Holy Spirit for all mankind from the Virgin Birth through the Holy Spirit Family of God for Jesus becoming Holy Spirit incorruption in the Christ in all mankind becoming again One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, logically, to me.

Logically spirit intelligence comes from choice defiled and fallible through the created souls genetics for the flesh in the body to manifest from the selected choice spirit intelligence becoming the image of the selected spirit intelligence to become again infallible logical fulfilled intelligence through two fulfilled natures in faith and morality from The Holy Spirit Incorruption through immortal immaculate flesh life in One Family Body.

LDS speaks highly of Family and can’t see Jesus as a God of Justice from Sacrifice through Penance, to me. We are not judging or proselytizing just generalizing as Pope Francis always says, generalize the Faith for all to share. Pope Francis was seeking The Miriam presence and to me Mary is in The Trinity as God of Transformation for all Baptized becoming The New Eve through the Immaculate Conception and to me sharing is becoming from the New Adam from Sacrifice through Penance forgiven from the Words of Absolution in Confession becoming re-Sanctified and Confirmed in Communion with Him in the Holy Family in Holy Spirit incorruption becoming again reimaged immortally glorified and incorruptibly transfigured for One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.

We want to include all beings, even the angels were saved through the Felsh of Our Christ’s death descension and resurrection from the Bosom of Abraham becoming again through both natures in all.

Sanctified Immortality From the New Eve for the Virgin Born becoming The New Adam glorifies and transfigures from sacrifice through penance to become again One Body through two natures, rationally. The incorruptibility from The Holy Spirit Nature manifesting The Holy Spirit Family One God in being infallibly through an immortal body, logically.

Muhammad says One God, and Jesus unites all as One in being from One Father through One Mother for One Son becoming The Christ in all mankind and angels becoming again One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, to me.

“Yes Lord let it become to Me Your Will,” to me is when Mary became from the Annunciation the First Christ salvation through the flesh nature from the Immaculate Conception on earth in from Mind of God through sanctified immaculate flesh for the Baptized New Eve through the Virgin Birth of The New Adam, Holy Spirit Incorruption conceived by the Power of the Holy Spirit Family in the transformed immaculate immortal flesh of Jesus becoming the Christ, through Holy Spirit incorruption through the New Living Sacrifice by contact of all or even any of the senses in The Host for all mankind becoming again One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, logically. Logically the Holy Family is together with Mary and is The Advocate, left behind from the cross, “Ecce Mater tua”, to me.

The two nature God from the faith of Abraham becomes again through both natures, spirit and life in One Body.

The Holy Spirit is logically The Holy Family Of God becoming again all cannot see quite logically, to me.

In 2 Corinthians 13:14, the “fellowship of the Holy Spirit.” This phrase highlights the Holy Spirit’s role in uniting believers with God and with each other, fostering a sense of community and shared purpose. He we can almost logically see Saint Paul understood the Holy Spirit as The Family to me.

To me I mean Logically what makes sense for all as one.

Maybe Muhammad is right? Pope John Paul II did kiss the Quran. My Muslim brothers lead me spot on to the Logic of Holy Family, to me. Perhaps Prophet Muhammad always says, One God, and perhaps did not understand the logic, to me. And this is what Jesus can to do, to unite the contentions from the spirit through the life for all in all, Jesus to me, is The Mystic. To me it takes a mystic to unite all faiths as one in being A Holy Family becoming again One God, One Family through Marriage and Family, to me.

Peace always,
Stephen

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Yes, Steve, you have nailed it. But you have to try to express yourself in words that us simple souls can follow.

As you rightly say there is one real family, and we are all members…and the family you are speaking of is not made of material elements… we simply have to grasp this and begin to act on it, with our bodies, our minds and our hearts.

As people who are exiled from the Garden of Eden, we have to struggle very hard. We are like people who are in a prison because we have broken the law. But instead of qualifying ourselves for leaving the prison, we try to make arrangements whereby we can make prison life very nice. This is the direction of most members of the church. We approach God for enhancing our stay in prison.

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When pope Paul ll kissed the Koran, he is taking a step in the right direction. There is no difference between the teachings of the Koran and the teachings of Jesus. Whether on is Hindu, Christian, Muslim or Jew, the teachings of all scripture is One: “Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, all the strength and all thy might.” Every scripture teaches this. And the test of one who tries to follow his scripture is how much they he has succeeded in awakening his dormant love of God. If this goal is achieved, then the path he is following has served him perfectly. And the symptom of one who has successfully cultivated love for God, our eternal Father…is that he now loves his neighbor as much as he loves himself. Therefore we can all take stock…because we know what we feel from day to day, moment to moment.

One who thinks that because he can say, “I have accepted Jesus.”, that therefore he is saved, or better than anyone else…while at the same time he doesn’t recognize every man on earth as a child of our eternal Father, and a dearmost brother…this is the person to whom Jesus says, “I never knew you.”

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The truth is that we are so far away from becoming totally purified of the dishonesty that we have in our own hearts, in terms of our relationship with Jesus and his eternal Father…that we are not in a position to judge anyone, what to speak of Pope John Paul ll.

Scripture says, “Judge not that you be not judged.”

The “job” of a spiritual representative of God is to bring us earthly beings a step closer to understanding our real position. Whether such people are gay, trans, Hindu, Christian, Jew, etc…we are all gross materialists, who seek our pleasures in terms of the gratification of our senses, non-stop. We are out of touch with our eternal spiritual nature, and we are addicted to the pursuit of material fulfillments. We even approach God with requests to facilitate our pursuit of material satisfactions, …which is diametrically in opposition to what Jesus is teaching us. In other words, we have hardly begun to be real Christians.

If the Ketchua native Americans give thanks to “Pachamama” (Mother Earth) for supplying everything that the earth provides to us, they are ahead of the average Christian who eats his food, puts on his cotton clothing, drinks his soft drink (made with sugar and water), all without giving a second thought to the earth that has provided these gifts. Who has created this earth, if not God? Therefore when giving thanks to Pachamama, this is a way of being thankful to God …everytime we take a sip of water, accept some foodstuff, wear a piece of cotton cloth, etc., etc. are we acting in this way? If Jesus was today walking among us he would say, “Just see what these people are doing, how they are giving thanks…try to learn something from them.”

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