Peace to all,
Out of Jerusalem, The Tomb, Saturday AM.
He Descended from the spirit Saturday morning, resurrected through the life in union with all the elect as one in being becoming One God on Sunday morning, I believe.
Peace always,
Stephen
Soul,
In your post #83 you wrote:
re: ââŚthe Hebraic idiom âthree days and three nightsâ meaning âapprox. three days, and any event touching upon any part of the third dayââ.
What is your source for saying that itâs a Hebraic idiom where âone day and one nightâ can mean that at least a portion of one daytime and at least a portion of one night time doesnât have to be involved?
Peace to all,
Jerusalem is not the New Heaven and Earth, Jerusalem is The Tomb, OMNiLogically.
The Logical âBellyâ becomes again for all One Family, becoming from lowest point of transformation throiugh The New Eve, a moment of crisis or a profound ordeal where old identity is shed to allow for rebirth and salvation, glorified and transfigured for Jesus in the New Adam becoming the Christ in all mankind becoming again in all Creation for all in One Family One God in being.
Jonah was in the âBellyâ of the Whale for three days, Jesus was in the âBelly,â The Tomb of Jerusalem for three days. After this time, the fish vomits him onto dry land, and Jonah commits to his divine mission, and the same for Jesus, OMNiLogically.
The Tomb is the City of Jerusalem.
Jesus was in Jerusalem and the Anointed rode in on a Donkey on Ash Wednesday stayed Holy Thursday and Good Friday and through left Jerusalem on The Cross from death through the flesh left left the Tomb of Jerusalem descended crossing and closing chasms early Saturday morning for resurrection from the spirit through the life for all, I believe.
Peace always,
Stephen
Peace to all,
Prophet Muhammad tells us one God I believe.
And One God is One Divine Family from three powers and Gods, pre-existing and personal Gods and being Gods equal in the powers of God and separately Gods being personal Gods and together One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.
Through Mary, God of Transformation becomes for all Baptized through the New Eve from the Annunciation for the immaculate Flesh in Mary through the Virgin Birth for Jesus God of justice becoming the New Adam from Holy Spirit Incorruption becoming through the Christ for all mankind from Sacrifice through Penance forgiven for all mankind becoming again in One God One Family of God One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.
Peace always,
prophet Stephen God boy (Is this a good name?)
Only one? I can only choose one? I have a problem with a lot of things in our current Bible, however Iâm finding out, through more research that The Bible is supposed to make sense. The current one we have out right now, makes no sense and reads like a fairytale, but The Bible is supposed to make sense. And, of course, thereâs a reason as to why it doesnât make sense, because God forbid we canât use our own intuition or discernment to figure out what is true. We need Theologians and the Church hierarchy to make sense of any of it, but we canât try to figure this out for ourselves, cause again weâre just sheep right? Weâre so stupid and require a shepherd cause the God-given brain we have isnât good enough apparently.
But one of the biggest errors I see (because of the amount of retranslating we do to this book) is the discrepancy between the Old Testament God and the New Testament Jesus. One of the things Catholicâs believe is that Jesus is the son of God AND is God, and I fail to see a similarity. The Old Testament God was a God who wasnât afraid of punishing people. He destroyed entire cities, and kills first born children over a feud that didnât even involve those children to begin with. The Old Testament God was the stereotypical fire and brimstone kind of God.
And then you have this absolutely beautiful being named Jesus Christ, who came down and showed the world mercy. Jesus really was a gift to mankind, He was the gift that kept on giving. Yes, Jesus would get upset at times, like flipping tables in the temple, but He was also very loving. He taught the world what love looked like. He gave so much to the hueman race, and Iâm thankful he incarnated down here. He was a loving being in a world that didnât know much about love.
Catholics state that Jesus is the son of God, but is also God. And if you compare what happened in the Old Testament to what happened in the New Testament, God and Jesus are night and day. The God of the Old Testament, even though He would warn people of what would happen if they didnât obey, was very much fire and brimstone. And then you had Jesus, who was kind, merciful, and forgiving. So, you have 2 different entities that are both God, and yet both are complete polar opposites. So for the longest time I always thought âWell maybe Jesus is showing the merciful and forgiving part of God, and God in the Old Testament is showing the just part.â But now that Iâve done research on it, itâs no longer a mystery to me. But that was always odd to me, that Jesus is the son of this fire and brimstone kind of parent.
I mean, that and the evil part. Why a God who is just allows all the evil to go on in the world. But, thatâs a big one with most people who arenât Catholic.
But Iâm not worried about it. The Bible was a book written by men. Itâs mankindâs book, and so, I refuse to base my life on a book that man wrote. God knows whatâs in my heart, not man, and thatâs good enough for me.
Soul,
re: "I actually said that âthree days and three nightsâ, not âone day and one nightâ is a Hebraic idiom.â
I donât see the difference. If 3 daytimes and 3 night times doesnât have to mean that at least a portion of each one of 3 daytimes and at least a portion of each one of 3 night times are involved, why doesnât 1 daytime and 1 night time have to mean that at least a portion of the night time and at least a portion of the night time are involved?
Peace to all,
Through all generalizations, The city of Jerusalem is the Tomb.
The three days in the tomb is when Jesus rode into Jerusalem Wednesday on a donkey and left on a cross Friday, Jerusalem is the tomb. He left the Tomb of Jerusalem Saturday morning, early.
Through death, descending emptying the chasm of the bosom of Abraham and with all crossing over, destroying the chasm of death forever resurrecting from the spirit through the life for all in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being
Peace always,
Stephen
In that post you wrote -
âPart of a day is a whole day: According to Jewish tradition, part of a day is counted as a whole dayâŚRabbinic literature: Jewish tradition, including in the Talmud, corroborates the concept that a part of a day can be reckoned as a whole day.â
So, based on that, if someone back then said that they were going to work Monday, daytime and night time, that it would be understood that at least a portion of the night time didnât have to be included?
Soul,
That didnât answer my question.
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Peace to all,
When we use logic, the faith through the Catholic Church becomes clear.
There are two places in Jerusalem that are considered possible locations of the tomb of Jesus. The Holy Sepulchre Church is located inside the walled Old City, while the Garden Tomb is outside the Old City walls.
To me, the tomb is the city of Jerusalem, where he entered on a donkey on Wednesday and left on Friday on a cross.
The tomb is not where he was buried. The tomb is the city of Jerusalem.
Saturday morning he left the tomb the city of Jerusalemand came back from death, Ascension and resurrection Sunday morning.
Out of Jerusalem, The Tomb, Saturday AM.
He Descended from the spirit Saturday morning, resurrected through the life in union with all the elect as one in being becoming One God on Sunday morning, I believe.
Peace always,
Stephen
Why doesnât that work the same way if the ancient Jew says that heâll be working for one day and one night?
If the ancient Jew says that heâll be working three days and three nights, why would someone think that he didnât actually mean it, but not think if he said he would be working one day and one night that he didnât actually mean that?
BTW, Monday evening would have been over some 6 hours by Monday afternoon. And where did I say anything about 72 hours?
Peace to all,
The Tomb is the City of Jerusalem, I believe.
Logically and faithfully, The Tomb is the City of Jerusalem, also, to avoid all of the confusion, the Tomb is the City of Jerusalem and that Jesus did arrive in the Tomb of Jerusalem on Wednesday on a Donkey and left the Tomb of Jerusalem on Friday night on a Cross and early Saturday morning left the Tomb forever.
What does the idiom (a group of words established by usage as having a meaning not deducible from those of the individual words) âthree days and three nightsâ mean? Arrived on Wednesday on a Donkey left on Friday on a cross, Wednesday Thursday and Friday 3 days 3 nights left early Saturday morning, left the Tomb of Jerulalem early Saturday AM.
The phrase âthree days and three nightsâ is a Jewish idiom meaning a period of about three days, not necessarily three full 24-hour periods. According to Hebrew reckoning, a day begins at sundown, so being in the ground in Jerusalem in the City of the Tomb of Jerusalem from Donkey powered arrival on Wednesday afternoon Cross Powered Death and Resurrection through Saturday morning can be counted as the âthird dayâ. This idiom is referenced in the Bible, such as in the story of Jonah, and was used to indicate a short period of time that culminates on the third day.
Peace always,
Stephen
Soul,
re: âWhat does the idiom âthree days and three nightsâ mean?â
To me, it means that at least a portion of each one of three daytimes and at least a portion of each one of three night times would be involved with at event. And I donât see what you are basing your idea on with regard to it being an idiom.
Now, please answer my questions to you in post #102.
Soul,
re: âThe idiom âthree days and three nightsâ means a period of approximately three days, not a 72 hour period.â
Iâve said nothing about a 72 hour period.
re: âThis Jewish idiom, commonly used in ancient texts, counts any part of a day or night as a whole day or night.â
If an ancient Jew said he would be working one day and one night would anyone think that at least a portion of the daytime or at least a portion of the night time didnât have to be involved?
re: âThis Jewish idiom, commonly used in ancient texts, counts any part of a day or night as a whole day or night. For example, an event that occurs on a Friday afternoon, all of Saturday, and Sunday morning would be described as âthree days and three nightsâ.â
You say it was common usage. What examples do you have to be saying that it was common? For example to say that a night time would be involved with an event when no part of a night time could be?
Objections to the view [of the crucifixion] have been based largely on Matthew 12:40 which states that Jesus would be in the grave three days and three nights before rising. Yet it was common practice among the Jews to refer to a fractional part of a day or night as one day and one night.
40 For zjust as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, aso will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
As I asked Soul, if an ancient Jew said he would be working one day and one night would anyone think that at least a portion of the daytime or at least a portion of the night time didnât have to be involved?
What point are you making?
Peace to all,
âI will never leave you orphans,
But for three days and nightsâŚâ Jesus
Jesus goes like, âBRBâ
On Friday Jesus leaves the cross, for part of a day and descends to the Chasm of the Bosom of Abraham and through most of the Day Saturday and travel to the other Chasm, and empties all the angels and saint and souls of all from Old Covenent saved and with Him cross over to the Chasm of Death 3:16 A.M. early on Sunday Morning and bust down the Gates of Hell with all binding The Strong Man Satin in His own home, Like the Parable of the thief in the night and in this story Jesus is not the bad guy and early on a Sunday morning and with all tear down the walls of hell with the flesh of all destroying Death forever rising up with all reopening the Gates of Heaven for all on 9:00 A.M. Sunday Morning, I believe.
Peace always,
Stephen
To me logical understanding of the Trinity seems confusing to most.
What is the gender of the Holy Spirit?
Peace always,
Stephen
Peace to all,
Transformation is confusing to me in becoming again and also glorification becomes from The Sacraments and transfiguration also is part of Becoming again, I believe.
Peace always,
Stephen