The Holy Trinity and Christ’s Crucifixion

Apologetics
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I heard a debate with a member of Islam and he said that Jesus could not have been God, because no human being could kill God.

But, this dives deeper into the mystery of the Holy Trinity. Jesus was fully human and fully divine.

The First Council of Nicaea (year 325 A.D.) confessed that Jesus is “consubstantial” with the Father, meaning one God with Him.

The Second Council (held in 381 A.D. in Constantinople) confessed that Jesus is “the only-begotten Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, light from light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father.”

But, it was the Councils of Toledo (not Toledo, Ohio) that really defined the origin and the eternal nature of the Trinity. And it indirectly clarifies something that the Muslim gentleman did not understand.

The Council of Toledo VI (638 A.D.) defined the Father as “the source and origin of the whole divinity” (CCC 245).

The Council of Toledo XI (in year 675 A.D.) said that the Holy Spirit is God, “one and equal with the Father and the Son, of the same substance and also of the same nature.” But, where the East and the West could not agree on was whether the third person of the Blessed Trinity was of the Father alone or of both the Father and the Son. For the previous Council in Constantinople said, “With the Father and the Son, He is worshipped and glorified.” Notice here that it does not say that “they” are worshipped, because there is one God and not three Gods (as is my understanding of what Mormons believe about the trinity).

Quarrels aside, the important thing to remember is that the divine essence is eternal and the divine unity between the three persons of the Trinity cannot be divided.

The Council of Florence (in year 1442 A.D.) stated the following, “Because of that unity the Father is wholly in the Son and wholly in the Holy Spirit; the Son is wholly in the Father and wholly in the in the Holy Spirit; the Holy Spirit is wholly in the Father and wholly in the Son” (CCC 255).

2 Timothy 1:9-10 talk about how this relationship between the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit ties into God’s plan for salvation, “He saved us and called us to a holy life, not according to our works but according to His own design and the grace bestowed on us in Christ Jesus before time began,
but now made manifest through the appearance of our savior Christ Jesus, who destroyed death and brought life and immortality to light through the Gospel.”

So, what this Muslim fella did not realize is that when Jesus suffered and died on the cross, the divine essence of God did not die, nor was the eternal relationship between Him divided.

Paragraph 257 says something quite beautiful, “God is blessedness, undying life, unfading light. God is love: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit…” Amen!

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I think this Muslim gentleman thought that if Jesus is God, then the crucifixion made God appear weak. And in his thought process, God cannot die, so therefore Jesus cannot be God. But, again, this is a surface-level understanding of Chris’s divine nature.

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Peace to all,

The logic is now here for all to understand the Mind Of God, OMNILogically.

The Old Covenant Sacrifice only saved the spirits in the souls awaiting in the Bosom of Abraham for the Christ to resurrect through the flesh for all.

This logic is trusted and verified proven in understanding the Logical Formulas through all of the Wondrous Mysteries of the Faith in the Christ becoming again in all One Holy Spirit Family One God in being and of the Sacraments, feature benefits and all were fulfilled from the Old Covenant Laws, formulas.

Logically, the crucifixion is the New Living Sacrifice, the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of the Holy Spirit Family One God conceived in the flesh of Jesus through the Christ in all mankind becoming again One Holy Spirit Family One God in being in all mankind, fulfilling the Two Nature God, spirit and life, from the Faith of Abraham.

What One Nature, Spirit only religions miss is the life and spirit resurrection through the Christ becoming again in One Body, OMNILogically.

If we can get the Catholic Church to see the Trinity properly, logically as the Holy Spirit Family One God in being and properly see the Mother of God preexisting in intelligence logic before creation was ever created was even created together with the Father and The Son then we can explain One God in three equal powers as God separately each equal in the Powers of God and together One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, OMNILogically. Even a child can understand the OMNIlogic, as correct and rational and believable and understandable.

True Cade_one the God of Abraham is a two nature God. The old covenant only saves the spirit nature. The new covenant saves through the spirit nature for the flesh to become again one Holy Spirit Family One God in being.

Yesterday we understood God through the faith of Abraham today we can understand the mind of God through the logic of the OMNILogical God same God of the Faith of Abraham.

Peace always,
Stephen
OMNILogicalGod. Com

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We believe that Jesus is truly God, and Acts 5:30 says, “You killed him.” Jesus also said, “No one takes my life from me, but I lay it down” (John 10:18). Jesus, the Son of God, was killed because He allowed it. However, His death did not terminate His eternal life any more than it terminates ours. Jesus said not to fear those who can kill the body but not the soul (Matthew 10:28).

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Valid and good points you have highlighted here. Thank you : )

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The words of men.
The Bible paints an ENTIRELY different picture!

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Peace to all,

How do we become to know “The Mind of OMNILogicalGod?”

So true, Literalman, “We believe that Jesus is truly God, and Acts 5:30 says, “You killed him.” Jesus also said, “No one takes my life from me, but I lay it down” (John 10:18). Jesus, the Son of God, was killed because He allowed it. However, His death did not terminate His eternal life any more than it terminates ours. Jesus said not to fear those who can kill the body but not the soul (Matthew 10:28).”

The Christ from death descends emptying The Chasm of The Bosom of Abraham crossing over to the Chasm of Death binding Satin in his own home tearing down the walls with flesh, with all from the Bosom of Abraham destroying death forever ascending, resurrection for all through both natures from the spirit the the souls of all for the flesh in One Body to become again in all One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, to me, I believe.

So true Cade_One and if The Trinity Forefathers could rationally see The Holy Spirit as The Holy Family then the Mother of God is the Person in the Trinity together with the Father and the Son in One Holy Family becoming conceived in all and living inside of all mankind through The Christ in all becoming again in all One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, OMNILogically. Jesus came to unite all as One in being and logically From One Father through One Mother for One Son becoming The Christ in all mankind becoming again One Family is how “The Mind of God” does it, literally, logically, faithfully, OMNILogically, becoming again in all, One God.

Logal formulas of Salvation follow the pattern what would Jesus do in all cases of the fulfilled faith and morality through the Christ in all becoming again for all One Family and trusts verifies omnilogical salvation with Him and The Holy Family together as One in being with Mary and The Father and all the angels and saints and Old Covenant saved, all mankind through both natures in One Body in One Family for all of eternity, to me, I believe.

And OMNILogicalGod is the same God from the Faith of Abraham expressed in today’s logic by Stephen Andrew, 21st Century Catholic mystic and Deliverer of the OMNILogicalGod for all logically, through the Power of the Holy Spirit Family One God in being, to me, I believe.

How does God do it? We may never know but only OMNILogically, to me, I believe.

In essence, “begotten” generally refers to the act of being fathered, while “born” refers to the act of being brought forth from the womb. “Begotten” often implies a causal relationship, indicating the origin of something, while “born” emphasizes the physical emergence into existence.

OMNILogically, rationally and faithfully, Jesus is conceived from the Power of The Holy Spirit Family through His flesh from the Immaculate Conception Virgin Born New Adam sanctified transformed in immortality through Holy Spirit incorruption becoming The Christ in all mankind through His preexisting soul as Eternal Priestly Authority of Spirit and Life becoming again in all immortally glorified and incorruptibly transfigured “reimaged” in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.

So true, Cade_One, “Quarrels aside, the important thing to remember is that the divine essence is eternal and the divine unity between the three persons of the Trinity cannot be divided.”

The Father is always together with the Mother and The Son in One Trinity Family for all becoming again, OMNILogically.

Conceived by the Power of the Holy Spirit Trinity Family and Virgin Born from the Immaculate Conception, The New Eve, for Jesus the New Adam becoming the Christ in all mankind will never die. But through Baptism The Christ is able to go from death to resurrection from the cross through death for resurrection in the blood and water, rebirth and salvation for all from the blood and water from the Crucifixion death and resurrection for all mankind and angles opening the gates, the womb of the New Heaven and Earth, The New Heaven for all mankind becoming again One Holy Spirit Family One God in being,

Peace always,
Stephen
mystic