Physical Descriptions of Jesus and His Mother

Maria Valtorta has observed the physical appearances of Jesus and His Mother, Mary, on multiple occasions, at times through visions of scenes from Their mortal lives, and when They would appear to her. Below are excerpt descriptions of Them:

And I got lost contemplating His face and observing the smallest details. And I shall repeat them for you once more. His hair parted in the middle of His head and falling in long locks down to His shoulders. Wavy for a full palm’s-length, then ending in a real curl. Shiny, thin, neatly combed, bright blond, with marked coppery tones especially in the final curl. A very high, beautiful forehead, as smooth as a sash, with slightly hollowed temples on which the pale blue veins leave light indigo shadows appearing under the very white skin, with that special whiteness of certain individuals with reddish blond hair: a milky whiteness with a gradation slightly tending towards ivory, but with a very light touch of blue, quite delicate skin resembling the petal of a white camelia, so thin that the slightest vein shows through and so sensitive that every emotion is depicted on it, with more intense paleness and brighter blushes.

But I have always seen Jesus as pale, only a little tanned by the sun, which He liberally assimilated during His three-year passage through Palestine.

A long, straight nose, with just a bit of a curve above, near His eyes—a very handsome, thin, well-shaped nose. Deep-set, very beautiful eyes, of the color I have so often described as very dark sapphire. Thick eyebrows and eyelashes, but not excessively so—long, beautiful, shiny, dark brown, but with a microscopic spark of gold at the summit of each hair. An even, smallish mouth, well-shaped, closely resembling His Mother’s, with lips just thick enough, neither too thin, so as to appear serpentine, nor too pronounced. In the center they are rounded and accentuated in a fine curve, and at the sides they disappear, making the very beautiful mouth seem to diminish out of sight, with its healthy red opening over even, vigorous teeth which are rather long and very white.

Thin, but not gaunt, cheeks. A very narrow, long oval, but quite beautiful, with cheekbones which neither protrude nor recede excessively His beard, thick on His chin and dividing into two curly points, surrounds, but does not cover, His mouth as far as the lower lip and rises, shorter and shorter, towards His cheeks, where, at the level of the corners of His mouth, it becomes very short, limited to leaving a shadow, like a smattering of copper, on the paleness of His cheeks. Where it is thick, the beard is a dark copper color, a dark reddish blond. And so is His mustache, not very thick and kept short, so that it barely covers His upper lip between His nose and the lip and is reduced at the corners of His mouth. Small, well-shaped ears closely joined to His head. They do not protrude at all. (The Notebooks: 1943)

Jesus is never sullen, not even when He is more disgusted with something that has happened, but is always majestically dignified and communicates such supernatural dignity to the place in which He moves. Jesus is never a jolly fellow or a complainer laughing coarsely or looking hypochondriac, not even in the moments of greatest delight or deepest depression. His smile is inimitable. No painter will ever be able to reproduce it. It is like a light emanating from His heart, a bright light in the hours of greatest joy because a soul has been redeemed or approaches Perfection: I would say a rosy smile, when He approves of the spontaneous deeds of His friends or disciples and enjoys their company; a blue angelical smile, to remain in the field of hues, when He bends over children to listen to them, teach them and then bless them; a smile mitigated by piety when He looks at the miseries of the flesh or the spirit; finally a divine smile, when He speaks of His Father or Mother, or looks at or listens to His Most Pure Mother.

I have never seen Him hypochondriac, not even in the hours of bitter torment. During the torture of being betrayed, during the anguish when He sweated blood, and the spasm of His passion, if melancholy overwhelmed the sweet refulgence of His smile, it was not sufficient to cancel the peace, which is like a diadem shining with heavenly gems on His smooth forehead and enlightening His divine person. Neither have I ever seen Him indulge in immoderate merriment. He is not averse to a hearty laugh, when the case demands it, but He immediately resumes His noble serenity. But when He laughs, He prodigiously looks younger, to the extent of looking like a twenty year old man and the world seems to blossom through His lovely, hearty, loud, melodious laughter. Neither can I say that I have seen Him do things hurriedly. Whether He moves or speaks, He does so calmly, without, however, being sluggish or listless. It is probably because, tall as He is, He can stride, without running, to go a long way and He can likewise reach at distant things without having to stand up to do so. Even the way He moves is certainly gentlemanly and majestic.

And what about His voice? Well: I have heard Him speak for almost two years, and yet at times I lose the thread of His speech as I become so engrossed in studying His voice. And Jesus, very kindly and patiently, repeats what He said and He looks at me with His smile of the good Master to ensure that nothing is missing in His dictation because of my delight in enjoying and listening to His voice and studying its tone and charm. But after two years I am not in a position to say precisely what the tone is. I definitely exclude the bass tone and also the light tenor tone. But I am always doubtful whether it is a powerful tenor voice or a perfect baritone voice with a very wide vocal range. I would say that it is the latter because His voice at times takes bronze-like notes, mellow and so deep, particularly when He speaks to a sinner, to lead him back to Grace or He points out human deviations to crowds. But when He analyses or condemns forbidden things or He shows the hypocrisy of men, the bronze notes of His voices become clearer; and they are as sharp as the peal of thunder when He imposes the Truth or His will and they vibrate like a sheet of gold struck with a crystal hammer when He sings the praises of Mercy or exalts the work of God; but the timbre of His voice is a most loving one when He speaks to or about His Mother. Jesus’ voice is then really imbued with love: the reverent love of a son, and the love of God Who praises His most perfect work. And He uses the same tone, although not so strongly, when speaking to His favourites, to converts and to children. And His voice never tires, not even in very long speeches, because it colours and completes His thoughts and words, emphasising their power or kindness, according to the case. (The Poem of the Man-God: Vol. 2)

As they often do while walking, perhaps to alleviate the monotony of their continuous travelling with this distraction, the apostles speak to one another recapitulating and commenting on the latest events, questioning now and again the Master, Who in general speaks very little, just not to be unkind, making such effort only when it is the case of teaching the crowds or His apostles, or correcting wrong ideas, or comforting unhappy people.

Jesus was the « Word », but He certainly was not a « chatterbox »! As patient and kind as nobody else, He never appeared to be bored when He had to repeat a concept once, twice, ten times, a hundred times to make it enter the heads hardened by pharisaical and rabbinical precepts, neglecting His own tiredness, at times so exhausting as to be painful, in order to relieve the moral or physical suffering of a person. But it is clear that He prefers to be silent, keeping aloof in quiet meditation which may last for many hours, if He is not distracted by someone questioning Him. He generally walks ahead of His apostles, with His head slightly bent, raising it now and again to look at the sky, the country, people, animals. I said to look. But that is wrong. I must say: to love. Because it is a smile, God’s smile that from His eyes pours forth to caress the world and creatures: a love-smile. Because it is love that shines forth, spreads, blesses and purifies the light of His eyes, which are so bright, most bright, when He comes out of intense concentration.

What are His concentrations like? I think—and I am sure that I am not mistaken, because it is enough to watch His countenance to see what they are—I think that they are much more than our ecstasies in which a human creature already lives in Heaven. They are the « sensible reunion of God with God ». Divinity is always present and united to the Christ, Who is God like the Father. On the Earth as in Heaven the Father is in the Son and the Son is in the Father, They love each other and by loving each other They generate the Third Person. The power of the Father is the generation of the Son and the act of generating and being generated creates the Fire, that is, the Spirit of the Spirit of God. The Power turns to the Wisdom Whom It generated and Who turns to the Power in the joy of being One for the Other and of knowing each other for what They are. And since all good reciprocal knowledge creates love—even our imperfect knowledge does—there is the Holy Spirit… There is the One Who, if it were possible to add perfection to divine perfections, ought to be called the Perfection of Perfection. The Holy Spirit! The simple thought of Him fills one with light, joy, peace…

In the ecstasies of the Christ, when the incomprehensible mystery of the Unity and Trinity of God was renewed in the Most Sacred Heart of Jesus, what complete perfect, bright, sanctifying, joyful, peaceful production of love must have been engendered and must have spread like heat from a blazing furnace, like incense from a burning thurible, to kiss with the kiss of God the things created by the Father, made by means of the Son-Word, made for the Love, for the only Love, because all the operations of God are Love? And that is the look of the Man-God when as Man and as God He raises His eyes, which have contemplated in Himself the Father, Himself and the Love, to look at the Universe, admiring the creative power of God, as Man; rejoicing, as God, at being able to save it in the royal creatures of such creation: men.

Oh! no one can, no one will ever be able, neither poet, nor artist, nor painter, to make visible to the crowds that look of Jesus, when He comes off the embrace, from the sensible reunion with the Divinity, always united to the Man hypostatically, but not always so deeply sensible to the Man, Who was the Redeemer and Who thus, to His many sorrows, to His many annihilations had to add this one, this very deep grief, of no longer being always able to be in the Father, in the great vortex of the Love, as He was in Heaven: almighty… free… joyful. Wonderful is the power of His look in regard to miracles, most kind is the expression of His eyes as man, very sad the light of sorrow in the hours of grief… But they are still human, although perfect in expression. This look of God, Who has contemplated and loved Himself in the Triniform Unity is beyond comparison, there is no adjective for it… And the soul prostrates itself before Him, worshipping, having become a mere « nonentity » in the knowledge of God, but blessed in contemplating His infinite love. (The Poem of the Man-God: Vol. 4)

Mary, on the other hand, is whiter, for She was more withdrawn at home, and it is a rosier white. Jesus is ivory white, with that slight reflection of blue.

Mary’s [eyebrows], on the other hand, are very light brown, thinner and sparser. Perhaps they seem that way because they are much lighter, so light that they are nearly blond.

Mary’s [teeth], on the other hand, are quite small, but regular and evenly joined. (The Notebooks: 1943)

And even now that the vision is interrupted, as it happened yesterday, I am left with Mother near me, visible to my internal sight so clearly that I can describe for you the light rosy hue of Her cheeks, not very chubby but gently soft, the bright red of Her little lips and Her clear blue eyes sweetly shining between Her dark-blond eyelashes.

I can tell you how Her hair, divided into two on the crown of Her head, falls softly with three undulations on each side, as far down as to cover half of Her little rosy ears, and then disappears with its pale shiny gold behind the veil covering Her head (because I see Her with Her mantle over Her head, wearing a dress of paradisiac silk and a dark mantle, as thin as a veil, of the same cloth as the dress).

I can tell you that Her dress is tight round Her neck by means of a sheathing inside which runs a cord the ends of which form a knot in front at the base of Her neck. Likewise Her dress is gathered at Her waist by a thicker cord, also of white silk, hanging down Her side with two tassels.

I can even tell you that Her dress, tight as it is at Her neck and waist, forms seven round soft folds on Her breast, the only ornament of Her very modest garment.

I can inform you of the chastity emanating from all Her aspect, from Her so delicate and harmonious forms which make Her such an angelical woman. And the more I look at Her the more I suffer thinking of how much they made Her suffer and I wonder how they could have had no mercy on Her, so meek and kind, so delicate also in Her physical appearance. I look at Her and I can hear once again all the shouting on Calvary, also against Her, all the mockery and insults, all the maledictions shouted against Her because She was the Mother of the Convict. Now I see Her beautiful and tranquil. (The Poem of the Man-God: Vol. 1)

On January 2nd, 1944, in a transcript dictated to Maria Valtorta by Jesus, He explained His physical trait of being fair-haired:

It must be borne in mind that Galilee was not a vast world and that there were relatively few Galileans, who almost always married among themselves, and that bodily traits were thus repeated in two or three types which for centuries had been found over and over again on those faces. It would not be mistaken to say that in all the little towns, if one were to go back to the beginnings, two or three original family branches would be encountered which had married again and again among themselves, giving rise to a marked physical characteristic in the whole Galilean race.

It should thus cause no surprise that John [of Zebedee] displayed a physical resemblance to Me. He was a fair-haired Galilean—a particularity which was rarer than the case of the dark-haired Galilean, but which also existed. But his resemblance was even more marked as regards the spirit. (The Notebooks: 1944)

Below are sculptures and drawings of Jesus and Mary by sculptor and painter, Prof. Lorenzo Ferri, based on Maria Valtorta’s writings and with her guidance:






Below is the Shroud of Turin, an image of Jesus’s lifeless face:

A famous Italian artist and sculptor (and Shroud of Turin scholar), Professor Lorenzo Ferri, regularly met with Maria Valtorta in order to accurately draw over 300 illustrations of portraits and drawings of scenes from The Poem of the Man-God. What is the amazing thing is that for many of them, as he was drawing them, she would watch it to give him advice on how to draw it more accurately to make sure that the portraits were accurate to how she actually sees the people in her visions. She was very critical (in a good way) and precise down to the smallest details in such a way that we can say that what he drew is either exactly, or very close, to what many of these people actually looked like in real life 2000 years ago. An article relates:

'Lorenzo Ferri met Maria Valtorta in 1949 at Viareggio where the writer was living, bedridden due to paralysis. She seemed to him to be lucid, practical, and highly intelligent—the exact opposite of a fanatic. The artist showed her a photograph of his own lifelike reconstruction of the bust of the Shroud which was well received by expert Shroud researchers. However, he did not receive a praiseworthy review from her because “…it’s not like the Face of Christ that she sees.”

Overcome by irritation, Ferri asks her to describe what she sees and then he will try to draw it. This is how the adventure began between the artist, a skeptic who barely manages to restrain his impulsiveness, and Valtorta with her authoritative and frank character. They agree to work in a particular way: he would sit with his back to her with a pad of paper in hand so that she could observe his quick sketches and make suggestions. Then, he would put in the detail at home and submit it to her for approval.

The “dictated” illustrations were carried out over the course of about four years, but they are not the simple transcription of what Maria Valtorta described. Even though Ferri was on the same wavelength as Maria, the artist would give life and form to the faces and ambience using his own, unmistakable traits. If one of the drawings required more time, Lorenzo Ferri would complete the details in his studio in Rome, in which case her criticism or approval would arrive by mail. “The ambience of the [Last] Supper you sent me has been done well, but what happened to the faces?.. Why didn’t you draw the faces like the ones you did here at my place in 1950? As for the resurrection of Lazarus, I only half liked it because you had drawn him naked, whereas he should have been covered in bandages… Jesus’ face is really handsome, gentle and expressive—exactly as I remember Him during the (rare) moments when He was happy, serene, prayerful” (Letter of Maria Valtorta to Lorenzo Ferri, July 21, 1953).

One day while entering Valtorta’s room, Ferri noticed that her face was extremely white. She explained that she saw Jesus in the courtyard (where she could not go) [due to her physical condition] and He was showing His approval by nodding in front of Ferri’s pastel drawing of the Apostles that had been placed outside for the protective varnish to dry. He approved of them all with the exception of John, who was drawn with an excessively strong jaw. Without hesitation, the artist cut out that sheet and redesigned the jaw.

… There exists a similarity between Valtorta’s descriptions and Ferri’s studies of the Shroud. The artist spent years of research on the cloth and on the three stages of scientific testing for a synthetic reconstruction. One of the sketches he made under the guidance of Valtorta’s dictation made him realize that right there under his eyes, he instantly had an image bearing a complete resemblance to the one that had cost him years of effort and experimentation to produce. [That is, after a quickly drawn sketch under Maria Valtorta’s dictations and suggestions, Ferri was able to draw the equivalent with a level of accuracy and detail that he could only have achieved after years of research on the Shroud]. Ferri saw his encounter with Valtorta as being like the keystone of his Shroud research, which lasted twenty years and from that time, was very connected to undisputed and universally accepted knowledge. She was a part of that group of people that the artist called, “perfect opposites,” who forced him to focus on a problem which was always bringing him to more and more in-depth, scientific testing. For his part, Ferri was a true witness of Valtorta throughout those years, of which the personal letters and the artistic illustrations are a living reflection.’

You can buy a book called Valtorta and Ferri which contains over 300 illustrations of portraits and drawings of scenes in the Poem which Lorenzo Ferri drew with Maria Valtorta’s guidance. (A Summa and Encyclopedia to Maria Valtorta’s Extraordinary Work)

I have not read the entire description, as it is very long. However, my conviction is as follows: Jesus can take any form he desires. Even an advanced yogi can take different forms. But the mystic perfections of the yogis are insignificant compared to the powers of Jesus. I believe the writer states that Jesus appeared to her: “But I have always seen Jesus as pale, only a little tanned by the sun,……”. I do not know if she means that she had aways envisioned Jesus in a certain way prior to experiencing a vision of him, or he always appeared to her in the way she describes when seeing these visions. But the bottom line is that different scriptures describe that God and His representatives will often appear to us according to the forms of our preconceptions and our heartfelt worship of those preconceptions. One example comes to mind that God appeared to Moses as a burning bush. God can take any form. If Jesus appeared as this devout writer describes, it would be remarkable to the people of his time. We are talking about North Africa. When Cortez came to South America, the local tribe considered him to be a God because of the nature of his fair complexion, and they offered sacrifices of human hearts to him (which he rejected as disgusting). There is much evidence that Jesus was closer to our conception of a black man than to the Celtic concept. But artists of Western Europe began to paint him blond and blue-eyed a few centuries after his appearance and departure, according to cultural influences. If Jesus had blond hair and blue eyes, it surely would have been recorded in the Bible, as no one else in that time and geographical place would have those features.

I highly recommend that you finish reading it. That way you have a full understanding and accurate knowledge of Jesus’s physical appearance.

That is a partial quote of an interjection Maria Valtorta made in her description of a vision of a scene of Jesus and His Mother shortly before His arrest. At one point, she described Jesus’s ivory skin tone, and mentioned that she always sees Him thus in her visions of Him from His mortal life, saying, “But I have always seen Jesus as pale, only a little tanned by the sun, which He liberally assimilated during His three-year passage through Palestine. Mary, on the other hand, is whiter, for She was more withdrawn at home, and it is a rosier white. Jesus is ivory white, with that slight reflection of blue.”

When Jesus appeared and spoke to Maria directly, according to her, He looked and sounded the same as when He did on earth, because it is how He naturally looks and sounds.

On January 2nd, 1944, in a transcript dictated to Maria Valtorta by Jesus, He explained His physical trait of being fair-haired:

It must be borne in mind that Galilee was not a vast world and that there were relatively few Galileans, who almost always married among themselves, and that bodily traits were thus repeated in two or three types which for centuries had been found over and over again on those faces. It would not be mistaken to say that in all the little towns, if one were to go back to the beginnings, two or three original family branches would be encountered which had married again and again among themselves, giving rise to a marked physical characteristic in the whole Galilean race.

It should thus cause no surprise that John [of Zebedee] displayed a physical resemblance to Me. He was a fair-haired Galilean—a particularity which was rarer than the case of the dark-haired Galilean, but which also existed. But his resemblance was even more marked as regards the spirit. (The Notebooks: 1944)

This is very interesting to me. Also, I was born in 1944, although is of no significance. What I do think is very important, very significant, is that we have to understand what Jesus was teaching us. And this is more important for us than his appearance. If we don’t understand his teachings, we will never receive a vision of his appearance. One example that comes to mind is that I have read online that the Ku Klux Clan consider themselves to be good Christians. Whereas my conviction is that Jesus values the condition of our hearts a million times more than the color of our skin. Another teaching of Jesus that seems to be overlooked, is that we don’t go to heaven, or enter the kingdom of God by being “good boys and girls”. Jesus tells us, “It is not by good works alone…..”. In other words, we cannot gain the ultimate blessing of Jesus by earning points, so to speak. Rather, Jesus tells us that the ultimate rule of good life is to cultivate feelings of love for God with all of our strength, with all of our heart. Love and obedience are two different things. And, if real love for God is manifest within our hearts, obedience will be spontaneous.. In fact, if there is genuine love for God, in our hearts, all good qualities will be manifest within us , without separate endeavor, including the ability to love our neighbor as ourselves will be second nature. Jesus is not teaching us to approach God for enhancing our lives in the material realm. Rather he is telling us that our reward is in heaven. The orientation of approaching God for making our lives on earth nice, is mixing our worship of God with our worship of mammon. Jesus makes this distinction by telling us that we have to make a choice between which “master” we decide to serve: the dictates of the spirit, or the dictates of material aspirations. Jesus assures us that if we love God, all of our needs will be met. “Consider the lilies of the field…..”. All of us have our duties and responsibilities, because if we don’t take care of our bodies, how can we engage our hearts in the service of the Lord? But we should not be thinking that wealth and material assets are the goal of life. In fact Jesus declares that it is harder for a wealthy person to come closer to God than it is to pas a camel through the eye of a needle. In other words, Jesus is telling us that our lives should be very simple and very humble and that our hearts should feel wealthy in the quality of a living sense of love for “our Father who art in heaven.” If we really begin to adopt the values that Jesus is wishing to share with us, perhaps we will one day see the glorious appearance of Jesus in his eternal spiritual form.

One more thought. Jesus is teaching us that love of God, heartfelt love, is the most important rule, the most important practice, the most important duty. Just to feel love for Him. But we are very self-centered creatures. Therefore Jesus tells us how to accomplish this goal. He says, “Accep the yoke that I wear.” What is the function of the yoke? The yoke is born by the beast of burden. The reins that control the animal run through the yoke. In this way the movements of the creature are controlled. Jesus says that he wears a yoke, and he asks us to accept the yoke that he wears. Jesus is controlled by the yoke that he wears. He is not controlled by the whip. He is controlled by the yoke of his love for his eternal Father in heaven. And he asks us to accept that same yoke. He is so much controlled by his love for God that even up to the point of being crucified, Jesus prays, “Not what I want, my Lord, but only what is pleasing to you. Not my will, but Thy will be done.” Jesus asks us to accept that very yoke. But how can we acquire that quality, that intensity of love of God? Only by having an intimate personal relationship with Jesus and ardently praying to him to enable us to understand his love for his Father. As our desire to understand his love is sincere and earnest, Jesus will agree to share his love for his Father with us. In his intimate association within our hearts, we can imbibe the taste of his love for God. This is a process of spiritual empathy. Then we can begin to love the Lord our God with all of our heart. This is what Jesus came to share with us. The Judaic law books hold all the rules. But Jesus came to give us the next step - love of God. This is the blond-haired, blue-eyed complexion of the heart of Jesus that we must learn to see.

Most Christians, if not all, naturally wonder what Jesus and other characters looked and sounded liked. Thanks to Jesus and Maria Valtorta, for example, one can know this information. And, my sharing that information doesn’t mean it’s more important than Jesus’s teachings, but the more you know about a person, it can draw you closer to them.

45.4 Jesus and John stare at each other for a moment, Jesus with his gentle blue gaze, John with his stern, very dark eyes, filled with lightning. Seeing them so close, they are the antithesis of each other. Both tall—this is their only resemblance—they differ enormously in everything else: Jesus blond, his long, well-combed hair, an ivory-white face, blue eyes, a simple but majestic garment. John shaggy, with straight black hair that falls to his shoulders at uneven lengths, a sparse black beard that covers almost his entire face, but does not prevent one from revealing cheeks hollowed by fasting; he has feverish black eyes, skin tanned by the sun, the weather and the thick hair that covers him, he is half naked under a garment of camel hair held at the waist by a belt of skin and which covers his torso, descending barely below his emaciated flanks and leaving on the right side the ribs uncovered, which have for all clothing only the skin tanned in the open air. He looks like a savage and an angel face to face.

   After scrutinizing Jesus with a penetrating eye, John exclaims:

   “Behold the Lamb of God! How can it be that my Lord comes to me?”

   Jesus answered him peacefully:

   “It is to fulfill the rite of penance."

Peace to all,

45.8 The manifestations of Christ have been numerous. The first after the Nativity was that of the Magi, the second in the Temple, the third on the banks of the Jordan. Then came the other innumerable manifestations that I will make known to you, for my miracles are manifestations of my divine nature until the last, those of my Resurrection and my Ascension into Heaven.

So true, Soul, Mary through Baptism becomes in all through all in the New Eve for Jesus in the New Adam becoming from Holy Spirit Incorruption through the flesh of the New Eve becoming The Christ from Sacrifice through Penance forgiven in all mankind becoming again in all creation One God, I believe.

Penance allows glorification and transfiguration for all becoming again One Family from becoming through all in sanctified immortality from Holy Spirit incorruption for Mary, The New Eve becoming transformed immortality through the flesh Baptized becoming for Jesus in the New Adam for One Body through The Christ from Sacrifice through Penance forgiven in all mankind becoming again in all creation One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, I believe.

Peace always
Stephen

As to Jesus’ appearance in paintings, my guess is that the European Renaissance artists used European models. Possibly many of the artists had never seen someone from the Middle East.

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Please forgive me for my attitude. I agree with what you are saying. If these descriptions help others to feel closer to Jesus within their hearts that is a great service and a very great blessing. I feel that it is very nice that you are sharing this information. Peter

Oh, there’s nothing to forgive, Peter. I was agreeing that Jesus’s teachings matter more than His physical appearance. And, I appreciate your receptiveness to the information regarding the latter.

Thank you my dear friend Christ.

In the late 1800s, Lew Wallace wrote Ben-Hur. I’d heard of it many times and never seen the movie. When I looked it up to see whether I would want to read it, I learned that for a long time it was the best-selling book in the United States except for the Bible. I read it four years ago. Clearly Wallace had researched the times of Jesus. In the story, he wrote that King David, the Virgin Mary, and Jesus had blond hair and blue eyes. I don’t think he had evidence for this; I think he was applying an implausible Western ideal to them.

Maria Valtorta received from Jesus visitations and visions of scenes from His mortal life, as well as took dictations from Him. There’s scientific proof in support of her God-Authored writings having a supernatural origin. On January 2nd, 1944, in a transcript dictated to Maria Valtorta by Jesus, He explained His physical trait of being fair-haired:

It must be borne in mind that Galilee was not a vast world and that there were relatively few Galileans, who almost always married among themselves, and that bodily traits were thus repeated in two or three types which for centuries had been found over and over again on those faces. It would not be mistaken to say that in all the little towns, if one were to go back to the beginnings, two or three original family branches would be encountered which had married again and again among themselves, giving rise to a marked physical characteristic in the whole Galilean race.

It should thus cause no surprise that John [of Zebedee] displayed a physical resemblance to Me. He was a fair-haired Galilean—a particularity which was rarer than the case of the dark-haired Galilean, but which also existed. But his resemblance was even more marked as regards the spirit. (The Notebooks: 1944)

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What is the scientific proof? At the risk of citing what everybody should have learned in high school, science (which itself can be credited to Christianity, according to Father Robert D. Smith in The Other Side of Christ) depends on evidence that can be tested. So what evidence was there and how was it tested?

Peace to all,

Is this what can be from searh? I found, please check, Thanks.

  • Scientific and Geographical Accuracy: Supporters claim that Valtorta, an invalid with limited education who never traveled to the Holy Land, accurately described geographical, climatic, and astronomical details of first-century Palestine. Scientific papers published in journals like Religions from the publisher MDPI have analyzed astronomical data and meteorological descriptions within Valtorta’s text and have suggested that the consistency is unlikely to be random.
  • Archaeological Details: Some supporters argue that Valtorta’s writings accurately describe first-century archaeological information not known in her lifetime. For example, some have claimed that her text described the first burial site of the Apostle Peter in a way that correlates with archaeological findings near the Via Nomentana in Rome.
  • Linguistic Analysis: A 2018 study in Religions used mathematical and statistical tools to compare the linguistic styles of the writings Valtorta attributed to herself with those she attributed to Jesus and Mary. The researchers concluded that the different attributed “authors” had distinct writing styles, a finding they considered significant.

Peace always,
Stephen

“Supporters claim,” “the consistency is unlikely,” “some supporters argue,” “some have claimed,” and “considered significant” are at most hypotheses, not proof, in the scientific method. The scientific method examines evidence to see whether the claims are true. If evidence proves them true—not just likely or significant or consistent—that is scientific proof.

I thought you would’ve researched Maria Valtorta and looked into it. If you had, hopefully you would’ve come across Prof. Emilio Matricciani and Dr. Liberato De Caro’s mathematical analysis:

In conclusion, what do these findings mean? That Maria Valtorta is such a good writer to be able to modulate the linguistic parameters in so many different ways and as a function of character of the plot and type of literary text, so as to cover almost the entire range of the Italian literature? Or that visions and dictations really occurred and she was only a mystical, very intelligent and talented “writing tool”? Of course, no answer grounded in science can be given to the latter question.

And, their astronomical and meteorological analysis:

Historian Jean Aulagnier’s archaeological and geographical analysis:

…and the analysis and findings by theologian David J. Webster, who observed, for example, that Maria Valtorta named at least nine unknown ancient towns and villages that were not discovered until after her death.

You can read about these and more in A Summa and Encyclopedia to Maria Valtorta’s Extraordinary Work. I highly recommend that you do.

The scientific method does not prove claims to be absolutely true.

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Soul, you said “there’s scientific proof in support of [Valtorta’s] God-Authored writings having a supernatural origin.” I asked what the proof is, and you say I should do my own research. I’m not a scientist, but a scientist would examine all the evidence pro and con (although as the astronomer J. Allen Hynek said, science is not always what scientists do), test the evidence, and draw conclusions, presenting the evidence and conclusions.

“The scientific method does not prove claims to be absolutely true.” On the contrary, just one example: water boils at different temperatures at different altitudes. It’s been tested with consistent results. It is absolutely true.

If there is scientific proof that Valtorta’s writings have a supernatural origin, go ahead and tell us the proof. What is the evidence for and against it? How does the evidence prove the claim? I doubt that the claim could be scientifically proven or that science could prove that the Bible is true or that angels or God exist. I consider these to be matters of faith, beyond what science can prove. However, if you truly know of scientific proof, I would be willing to hear it. What scientific evidence indicates that Valtorta’s writings had a supernatural origin? What evidence indicates that they did not? How does the positive evidence overrule the negative? That’s science. And given the limits of faith and science, I suspect that the most that science can say about aspects of Valtorta’s writings is that maybe some things are unexplained given current knowledge. I don’t see how science can prove the supernatural origin of writings. But again, if you have this proof, please present it.

That is not entirely accurate. I didn’t respond to your asking for the scientific proof by saying that you should do your own research. That can be verified by merely re-reading my previous reply to you.

Firstly, the statement “water boils at different temperatures at different altitudes is proven absolutely true by the scientific method” is not entirely accurate, because, again, science does not provide absolute proof. The relationship between altitude and boiling point is a well-established and repeatedly confirmed scientific theory, but it is not an “absolute truth.”

Secondly, I already did present the scientific proof in support of Maria Valtorta’s writings having a supernatural origin (see my previous reply to you). Did you review them?