Physical Descriptions of Jesus and His Mother

Did you review them? Look at the conclusions from Matricciani and De Caro:

From their mathematical analysis: “In conclusion, what do these findings mean? That Maria Valtorta is such a good writer to be able to modulate the linguistic parameters in so many different ways and as a function of character of the plot and type of literary text, so as to cover almost the entire range of the Italian literature? Or that visions and dictations really occurred and she was only a mystical, very intelligent and talented ‘writing tool’? Of course, no answer grounded in science can be given to the latter question.”

From their discussion of literary fiction or ancient astronomical and meteorological observations: “In conclusion, if from one hand the scientific inquire has evidenced all the surprising and unexpected results reported and discussed in this paper, on the other hand our actual scientific knowledge cannot readily explain how these results are possible.”

So Matricciani and De Caro concluded that science could not answer their questions, only indicate remarkable things about her writing. Yet you consider their findings to be scientific proof?

The words you quote from Prof. Brodeur are attestation to her character, not proof that the writings have a supernatural origin. He says that she (I paraphrase) that was too saintly to be deluded or insane, hence his opinion that she really received divine dictation. This is his opinion; it court he would be called a character witness. His opinion is not proof that the writings are supernatural.

In “Maria Valtorta was an Eye-Witness to the First Century Life and Ministry of Our Lord Jesus! Her Numerous Strikingly Accurate Descriptions of First Century Palestine Prove it!”
David J. Webster presented his evidence that supports his claim. He presented no opposing evidence. That is not science.

Only two of these things you call “scientific proof” even used a scientific approach, and the authors concluded that science could not answer the question.

Another expressed his opinion of Valtorta’s character. It might be evidence in favor of the claims that her writing was supernatural, but it is not scientific proof.

And Webster presented only evidence that supports his assertion. Evidence of unexplained things in Valtorta’s writing, perhaps. Science, no. Scientific proof, no.

Matricciani and De Caro seem to say that science cannot answer questions of whether Valtorta’s writings had a supernatural source. I concur.

Researchers Enrico Matricciani and Liberato De Caro have applied a “deep-language mathematical analysis” to various subjects, including literary corpora, religious texts, and relics. Their conclusions vary by subject, suggesting a universal linguistic structure, finding a coherent chronology in Maria Valtorta’s writings, and noting similarities between the faces on the Veil of Manoppello and the Turin Shroud. Read more about their work in the linked academic papers.

Peace to all,

Thank you for Maria’s introduction, to me, Soul, Maria Valtorta is telling us as reflects her belief that she was acting as a secretary for Jesus, who is dictating the work through “The Pen of Jesus.” To me Maria confirms logically and faithfully Jesus and Mary, His Mother are together the Christ in all mankind becoming again in all creation One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, I believe.

The logical Christ is from the New Eve through the New Adam becoming the Christ in all mankind, I believe.

We, together as “The Catholics” missed seeing the Holy Spirit as The Family of God preexisting becoming again in all creation, One God, I believe.

Simon Peter replied, “You are The Christ, the Son of the living God.”

The Two Nature Physical Immaculately Immortal and Spiritually Incorruptible Discription of Jesus and His Mother is becoming The Christ in all mankind becoming again in all creation One Holy Family.

The Christ is more than just Jesus, The Christ is the Family of God conceived alive and living through the flesh for all mankind in the Christ becoming again in all creation One Family of God, I believe.

The New Eve and The New Adam is the Christ in all mankind becoming again in all creation One God, I believe.

Reconciling Man to God is through two natures from the Incorruptible Power of The Holy Spirit in the New Adam through The Immaculate Flesh of The New Eve for Jesus Virgin Born becoming through The Christ in all mankind, I believe.

The keys are given to all who see The Christ, The Holy Spirit Family of God becoming again as God, I believe.

To me there is no proof Jesus is God, but I believe through faith. And I also believe Mary is God and the Father is God and each are Gods equal in the Powers of God and separately personal Gods preexisting and Gods in logical undefiled intelligence together as One God in being together becoming again in all creation One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, and through Maria’s writings confirmation becomes only clearer to me, I believe.

If we truly believe in the Divinity of The Christ we believe in all of the teachings of the Christ becoming again in all creation One God, One Divine Family, I believe, and are the keys to the Kingdom.

Peace always,
Stephen

Prof. Emilio Matricciani and Dr. Liberato De Caro’s mathematical analysis led to the following conclusion:

In conclusion, what do these findings mean? That Maria Valtorta is such a good writer to be able to modulate the linguistic parameters in so many different ways and as a function of character of the plot and type of literary text, so as to cover almost the entire range of the Italian literature? Or that visions and dictations really occurred and she was only a mystical, very intelligent and talented “writing tool”? Of course, no answer grounded in science can be given to the latter question.

And, their astronomical and meteorological analysis led to the following conclusion:

Historian Jean Aulagnier’s archaeological and geographical analysis led to the following conclusion:

These scientific proofs indirectly point to a supernatural cause, and are probably as close as you’re going to get when using material means to prove what is immaterial.

What would be the opposing evidence to Maria Valtorta having named at least nine ancient towns and villages that were unknown at the time of her writing about them, and weren’t discovered until after her death?

Attestation to character is not scientific proof. My inclusion of Prof. Brodeur’s testimony was an oversight when copying and pasting. I’ve already edited my previous post.

No, no, Mary is not God. God is one and triune: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

My pleasure. Thank you for being receptive, and thus allowing yourself to hear and recognize the voice of your Shepherd, Jesus.

Peace to all,

The Trinity came from the Didache first and third century Forefathers of the Trinity Tertullian and Praxeas incorrectly, defining the Holy Spirit as a person.

The Holy Spirit’s gender is better said what gender, non-gender ? best said, all gender consisting of all Saints and angels and old covenant saved, and martyrs and Saints and all mankind and all creation becoming again one Holy Spirit family one God in being.

These words to you logically have never been said on earth before and from me, Stephen Andrew the introduction to the Holy Spirit family logically becomes one God.

Maria Valtorta is truly the Pen of Jesus. You have led me to believe and know, and I wish to introduce you to the Holy Spirit family of God becoming again in all creation.One God..

Family power’s pre-existing in logical intelligence undefiled from the father through the mother for the son becoming the Christ in all mankind becoming again one Holy Spirit, family, one God and being is what unites all as one in being together with the father and the son through the mother in one Holy Spirit family one God and being.

Mary is logically God pre-existing As personal God of transformation God of mercy queen of heaven and mother of God through the immaculate conception.

Maria Valtorta constantly confirms the Holy Spirit family of God, becoming through flesh for two natures in one body becoming again one family.

Mary existed before creation was ever created was even created as mother of God in the holy family together with the father and the son in one Holy Spirit family one God in being I believe.

Gods of powers in the Trinity of powers consist of creation, transformation, glorification, and transfiguration from three pre-existing spirit persons and Gods in being .

And if anyone still need proof, the Holy Spirit is The Family of God, they now have it, I believe.

Peace always,

Stephen Andrew

Peace to all,

So true, through all volumes of The Poem of The Man God, which is the Gospel from the Eyes of The Christ through the Pen of Maria, The Holy Family becomes again in all cases, I believe.

The Holy Family existed before creation was ever created was even created from the Father through the Mother for the Son, becoming the Christ in all mankind becoming again One Holy Spirit Family from where they came for two natures for One Body becoming One Family, I believe.

Maria faithfully rewrites the gospels with respect to Jesus’s dictations, and Jesus doesn’t go into the logic, and Maria is only amplifying the words of Jesus through the gospels, I believe.

The Omnilogic, I am logically seeing is verified through the logical formulas of the Wondrous Mysteries of the Faith from Abraham becoming again One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, I believe.

Peace always,

Stephen

Please copy and paste an excerpt from Maria Valtorta’s writings that you believe confirms your belief Jesus’s Mother is God.

I would like you all to understand that, both you who are My relatives according to the world, and you, friends and children in a supernatural way. Neither you, nor anyone else know Who My Mother is. But if you knew, you would not criticise Her in your hearts stating She is not capable of keeping Me subject to Her, but you would venerate Her as the closest friend of God, the Mighty Woman Who can obtain all graces from the heart of the Eternal Father and from Her beloved Son. I will certainly come to Cana. I want to make Her happy.

You will understand better after the wedding. » Jesus is majestic and persuasive.

Judas gazes at Him. He is thinking. He then says: « And I will certainly come with You, with these friends, if You want me. . . because I feel that what You say is right. Forgive my blindness and my brothers’. You are so much holier than we are!.. »

« I bear no grudge against those who do not know Me. I am also without illfeeling towards those who hate Me. But I feel sorry for them, because of the harm they do themselves. What have you got in that satchel? » « The tunic Your Mother sent You. It is a big feast tomorrow. She thinks that Her Jesus will need it, so that He may not look out of place amongst all the guests. She worked from early morning till late night every day, to have it ready for You. But She did not finish the mantle. Its fringes are not yet ready and She is very sorry about it. »

« It does not matter. I will wear this one, and I will keep that one for Jerusalem. The Temple is much more important than a wedding feast. »

« She will be so happy. »

Her unreserved voluntary donation of Herself to God is nothing new. Her mother offered Her in the Temple before She even smiled at life. And - as She told Me the innumerable times She spoke to Me of Her holy childhood, holding Me close to Her heart in the long winter evenings or in the clear starry summer nights - She gave Herself to God since the dawn of Her life in this world. And She gave Herself even more when She had Me, that She might be where I am, fulfilling the Mission given to Me by God. Everybody will abandon Me at a certain moment, perhaps only for a few minutes, but everyone will be overcome by cowardice, and you will think that it would have been better, for your own safety, if you had never known Me. But She, Who understood and knows, She will always be with Me. And you will become Mine, once again, through Her. With the power of Her unshaken, loving faith, She will draw you to Herself and will thus bring you to Me, because I am in My Mother, and She is in Me, and We are in God.

Peace to all,

The Christ is The Temple and The Spirit and is the mariage between the New Adam from Holy Spirit Incorruption through the New Eve for Immaculate Immortality becoming One Body through two natures, spirit and life for all becoming The Christ in all mankind, I believe.

Co_redemption is logically, I believe, and truely faithfully from Maria’s Pen through the Words of The Christ, “She will draw you to Herself and will thus bring you to Me, because I am in My Mother, and She is in Me, and We are in God.” From the “Pen of Maria” through the “Words of The Man God.”

Mary is blood and water born conceived through the Power of The Holy Spirit from the Annunciation becoming the Immaculate Conception sanctified through the transformed immortal flesh from the Power of the Holy Spirit becoming the First Christ in The New Eve for Jesus Virgin Born from Family Souls preexisting becoming alive and living in the New Adam becoming The Firstborn Christ of all Creation reborn back to Heaven for all from Sacrifice through Penance in all mankind becoming again in all creation One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, I believe. Mary is Assumed into Heaven Baptized by Her Son Jesus, Baptized by Saint John, for Mary bypassing death for glorious resurrection Glorified and Transfigured as Queen of Heaven through The Glorious Assumption, I believe.

Peace always,

Stephen

In this excerpt, Jesus does not call His Mother “God”, but rather says, " […] venerate Her as the closest friend of God".

Jesus turns round and takes little Joseph by the hand, He draws him close to Himself and holding him up by his armpits He says: « I worked to provide food for this innocent child and his relatives and persuade them that God is good. It was a sermon on humility and charity for Korazim. And not only for Korazim. But also for you, Joseph, My unfair brother. But I forgive you because I know that you have been bitten by snakes. And I forgive you, too, Simon, who are so changeable. I have nothing to forgive My Mother or be forgiven by Her, because Her judgement is just. Let the world do what it wants. I do what God wants. And with the blessing of My Father and Mother I am happier than I would be if the whole world hailed Me king according to the world. Come, Mother. Do not weep. They do not know what they are doing. Forgive them. »

In this excerpt, Jesus calls Mary “My Mother” not “God”.

Peace to all,

“Her judgement is just.” Co-Redeption through the New Eve, God of Mercy for all becoming in the New Eve through the immaculate Baptized flesh for all to be able to become from derath resurrected glorified and transfigured through the Christ, I believe.

Thanks Soul, and so true, His Mother of the Flesh and His Bride as New Eve of The Spirit becoming Teh CHrist in all mankind I believe. Mary is our Mother and Our Sister, the Bride of Christ and His Passion and exists as Mother of God in intelligence logic before creation was ever created was even created making Her God from preexistence, I believe

Is Jesus Father God?

The Holy Spirit is The Family of God and The Holy Family loigically is always together with the Father and the Son always together with the Mother in Fulfilled Undeflied Intelligence Logic becoming again in all, logically.

Peace always,

Stephen

The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit have never said that Mary is God. In fact, Jesus said, “Who is the Most High? God One and Triune” referring to the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. (The Poem of the Man-God: Vol. 2, ch. 171)

  • One essence, three persons: In the context of the Trinity, “essence” refers to what God is, while “persons” refers to who God is. All three persons share the identical, undivided divine nature.

Peace to all,

And He tells us all from the Cross, “Ecce Mater tua,” Behold Your Mother, we were there, at the cross, the disciple he loves the most, He calls us all by name, “Disciple, Ecce Mater tua,” for He loves all of His Disciples the same, with the most love, I believe.

Logically, Jesus did not tell Maria Valtorta, God bless her always, everything, I believe.

Some He left for Stephen Andrew and everyone if we listen, I believe. Today we can understand the logic through today’s rational logic in language not available even a few 30 or 40 years ago, I believe.

Static creation can be explained simply through logic where finite disciplines pale miserably in understanding the Mind of God undefiled and unable to fail forever, as I believe, OMNILogically. Natures are created and transformed, combined and transfigured and understandable through logic, rationally.

Catholic Public Domain Version
For from him, and through him, and for him are all things. In him is glory, for all eternity. Amen.

Divine Nature is immortal and incorruptible, two natures in One Body through the Christ, in all mankind. From three Gods, from creation through transformation for glorification becoming again transfigured in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, I believe.

Natures are from the failed spirit through the mortal life, becoming Divine, immortal and incorrutible from three powers and Gods in being equal in powers of God and separate Gods in being from powers of Creation, transformation and glorification for two natures becoming from the Father created corrupt and mortal becoming immortal and becoming incorruptible transformed through the Mother in The New Eve, Mary, for the Son, Jesus in the New Adam, Jesus, becoming the Christ in all mankind, I believe. The Holy Spirit is the Family of God becoming again in all One God through three powers for two natures becoming One Body becoming again in all glorified and transfigured for One Family One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, I believe.

There is no other way to explain rebirth, flesh immortality and salvation, Holy Spirit incorruption through two natures becoming in One Body becoming again in all creation One Family unless we see the Holy Spirit as the Family of God, I believe.

The Catholic Definition of the Trinity is logically wrong, I believe. The more we disagree the more you will see I am logically correct with the Mind of God becoming again in all One God, I believe.

Thanks for the opportunity.

Peace always,
Stephen

You rightly believe that Maria Valtorta was the “pen” of Jesus, and through her He made it clear that His Mother isn’t God, saying, “Who is the Most High? God One and Triune”, referring to the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, which is taught by His Church. Therefore, how could the Catholic Christian definition of the Holy Trinity be wrong?

Because of 1st and 3rd Centure Forefathers incorrectly defining the Holy Spirit as a person from the Didache, Tertullian and Praxaes, I believe, at shortly after 0AD, I believe.

Who today would leave the Mother of God out of the Trinity of Family Powers?

Pope Francis was searching the Miriam Presece in the Church, why not Mary, Mother of God in the Trinity Family? I believe.

Peace always,
Stephen

But, you rightly believe that Maria Valtorta was the “pen” of Jesus, and through her He made it clear that His Mother isn’t God, saying, “Who is the Most High? God One and Triune”, referring to the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, which is taught by His Church.

Peace to all,

And He tells us all from the Cross, “Ecce Mater tua,” Behold Your Mother, we were there, at the cross, the disciple he loves the most, He calls us all by name, “Disciple, Ecce Mater tua,” for He loves all of His Disciples the same, with the most love, I believe.

Logically, Jesus did not tell Maria Valtorta, God bless her always, everything, I believe.

Some He left for Stephen Andrew and everyone if we listen, I believe. Today we can understand the logic through today’s rational logic in language not available even a few 30 or 40 years ago, I believe.

Static creation can be explained simply through logic where finite disciplines pale miserably in understanding the Mind of God undefiled and unable to fail forever, as I believe, OMNILogically. Natures are created and transformed, combined and transfigured and understandable through logic, rationally.

Catholic Public Domain Version
For from him, and through him, and for him are all things. In him is glory, for all eternity. Amen.

Divine Nature is immortal and incorruptible, two natures in One Body through the Christ, in all mankind. From three Gods, from creation through transformation for glorification becoming again transfigured in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, I believe.

Natures are from the failed spirit through the mortal life, becoming Divine, immortal and incorrutible from three powers and Gods in being equal in powers of God and separate Gods in being from powers of Creation, transformation and glorification for two natures becoming from the Father created corrupt and mortal becoming immortal and becoming incorruptible transformed through the Mother in The New Eve, Mary, for the Son, Jesus in the New Adam, Jesus, becoming the Christ in all mankind, I believe. The Holy Spirit is the Family of God becoming again in all One God through three powers for two natures becoming One Body becoming again in all glorified and transfigured for One Family One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, I believe.

There is no other way to explain rebirth, flesh immortality and salvation, Holy Spirit incorruption through two natures becoming in One Body becoming again in all creation One Family unless we see the Holy Spirit as the Family of God, I believe.

The Catholic Definition of the Trinity is logically wrong, I believe. The more we disagree the more you will see I am logically correct with the Mind of God becoming again in all One God, I believe.

Thanks for the opportunity.

Peace always,
Stephen

Mary is never said to be God in Scripture. And, through Maria Valtorta, we know that Jesus said, “Who is the Most High? God One and Triune”, referring to the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

In Trinitarian Christianity, the “Most High” refers to the one God who eternally exists as three distinct persons: God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ), and God the Holy Spirit. The phrase “God One and Triune” reflects the core Trinitarian doctrine of a single divine essence in three persons.

Peace to all,

Maria would agree, I believe.

The Holy Spirit is the Family of God and the three persons are the Father the Mother and The Son. The Holy Spirit is the entire “Sophia” wisdom of the Holy Family, I believe. Not just a person. The Holy Spirit is three Gods each Gods equal in teh Powers of God and separately Gods in personal beings prexisting and together One God in being,

Unless you can tell me who the Holy Spirit is, then?

Peace always,

Stephen