Do you practice Natural Family Planning (NFP) in your Marriage?

I never referred to that show but thanks for the video. I am aware those crazies are just modern people with Mormon slapped on top.

You’re never going to change my mind on Mormons and their many issues tho. They don’t even have a valid form of baptism and they believe they can become gods. They’re not Christian. They even take Masonic vows and have ties with Freemasonry. They are mentioned in Fr. Chad Rippergers book of Deliverance prayers as taking some Masonic vows and asking for us to be released from the curses they invoke. Sure, the people themselves can often be very decent but they practice witchcraft accidentally promising their souls away to the wrong god.

I own a Christian server for girls. One time three sisters joined. They seemed nice tho a little naive. They came from a huge family which we thought was cool but eventually we ran into major theological differences that they tried to push in my server which were very heretical and they said they were Mormon later. They ended up leaving because they attempted to defend literal pedophilia (because some of their family members had apparently… yeah), and said we had no right to turn them over the police and a bunch of shocking things. And sure, that doesn’t mean the religion itself is bad because humans err and that’s why we need religion, but you know it’s bad when they believe God is one of many gods and he started out human and ascended to godhood and they can too.

I’m not trying to convince that what the LDS Church teaches is true. I am just asking you to give them the same respect that you would like to receive from individuals claiming they know what Catholic Christians believe. How often have you heard someone say something about Catholics that are just flat out wrong?

Former Catholics are often some of the most ignorant of the Catholic Faith. I’m sure the same is true of former LDS.

Now, going back to the topic at hand. I do not know if LDS believe in artificial means of contraception. I know they often have large families, but what their official teaching is, I do not know. Or if they have an official teaching.

I don’t have a lot of respect for the Mormon religion as itself because I see it in a similar light as the Muslim religion for some reasons, but I hope the people are okay and find God soon and can get out safely.

I have no idea what they think of contraception, never asked

Ha-Ha! That’s funny : )

Note: My LDS friends are Hispanic and her first Husband was from Africa. Their Missionaries are currently teaching Hattian Refugees how to speak English. So if what you say is true, they are branching out.

“Islam for white people” reminds me that a few years ago I read something by a person who became convinced that the Nation of Islam is the true religion. But the Nation of Islam wouldn’t let him join because he was white, so he became a Catholic. :slight_smile:

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Preach it, literally so accurate

Botox neither plumps nor stretches wrinkles. It relaxes the muscles in the face. Same for migraines or muscle contractures in legs, it paralyzes the muscles.

You sound very radical and more fundamentally than a Catholic. Birth control pills have actual health benefits for women and their very troubling monthly menstrual cycles. I come from a family of women who can bleed very heavily for 3 weeks. And the pain in cramping left me with nausea and migraines. I had to practically wear diapers my blood flow was so heavy and clotted. I became anemic, fatigued and so many other health problems that I eventually had an ablation. The best scientific method that saved me from living a horrible life. My two daughters had to go on birth control for the medical benefits in those miraculous little pills. If you’re so against women’s healthcare and real family planning, then I believe you should outlaw viagra! It’s going against nature’s time clock. Limp should be a natural progression of life and your body!

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Are you Catholic?

You probably got triple-vaxxed with all 8 boosters in warp speed, didn’t you?

My Wife and her Mother too.

Praise Pfizer am I right?

I am against Viagra, IVF, and Vasectomies too. This isn’t about men vs. women. You seem to view everything through a Marxist lens. Men and women compliment one another.

You sound very angry. I am not angry. What you do to your own body is on you. I am a Libertarian and I do not want to use government to force you to consume a product or ban you from consuming a product, unless that product is designed to kill another human being.

I do not know your political affiliation, but I think I can guess that you are a Democrat. And I can also guess that you were all for government forcing individuals to get an experimental product (messenger RNA) injected into their bloodstream. President Trump’s “Operation Warp Speed” was the catalyst that made it possible to wave the 10 year trial period for a vaccine to be brought to market. As a libertarian, I don’t think there should be a minimum trial period, but I certainly do not believe it should be mandatory to inject anything into one’s body. I will let you be the guinea-pig.

The feminists used to be the ones who were all about being natural. Now there is a split among them. Those who are giving fallen men everything they could dream of. Think about it. They have convinced you that being promiscuous is liberating. They have convinced you to put something into your body that tricks your body. They have convinced you that rejecting your femininity (becoming more like fallen men) is the radical. You claim to hate men, but want to become like the worst representation of men. And, not to mention, the greatest “women” in sports are now biological men. One side of the feminist divide is against this, while the other (I presume your side) is all for this. You have been duped and you don’t even see it. Why? Because (I believe) you are in a cult.

I’m in a cult alright! The women’s cult of literally having everything stripped away from our lives and health care. By goofy men who have no clue what we have to endure in our lifetime. Women fear men because they can kill us with their bare hands. Men fear women because we can embarrass them. There’s a huge difference between the sexes. Not including the LGBTQ community. Can you imagine what they go through on a daily basis ? My friends son was so close to committing suicide. And when his mother found him in time, she asked him why? And he said I don’t care about me mom, I care about what you will have to suffer. If you believe being gay is a choice? What date did you decide to be straight? Mother Nature is a mad scientist!

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Peace to all,

Thanks for the response, from all,
What religious logic do you follow? Thanks in advance.

Peace always,
Stephen

Interesting that you had to add the disclaimer. I think you fear being shunned by your cult, and so you had to put the disclaimer.

This is tragic. Anyone who is close to doing this is suffering from mental illness. Mental illness is very prevalent in individuals who struggle with identity. And playing make-believe is not helping these individuals.

Where is Dad?

I believe it is not a gene. I believe it can be caused by a few factors:

Not a choice:

  1. When a young individual is abused some often develop disordered attractions.
  2. When Dad is either absent or abusive.
  3. When a Mother is controlling rather than nurturing.
  4. What they put in our foods and water supply (though this could fall under “choice” if we know what is in the food supply and choose to consume it anyway).

A choice:

  1. When it becomes fashionable (or normalized/glorified in pop culture).
  2. When they want to feel special or different (as most young people do).
  3. When it becomes a religion (though this could fall under “not a choice” if brain-washed and under the illusion that the inversion is good and what is truly good is oppressive).

I do not desire anyone to take their own life (as if they have the right to do so). There are groups who are pushing and normalizing for individuals the choice to take one’s own life and it is often the same individuals who push your religious agenda.

There is another element to all of this. There is also a push to normalizing body augmentations for minors under this idea that “If you do not do this, they will likely kill themselves.” This is a form of manipulation (and dare I say abuse). And Mothers tend to fall for this more than Fathers. And I do not blame Mothers, because they are doing what they are being told is best for their child. Fathers (if present and not in the cult that is pushing this nonsense), should reject this false binary of outcome. It is not true that if not one, therefore the other will happen. I think that some wish this were true, so that it makes their push appear more logical and less absurd.

I Pray for all young people who want to feel special and different, channel that in a healthy way. May they recognize that they are special to God and unique in how you live for Him. Your life has value, not because of how others see you or how you see yourself, but because of who you are in the eyes of God. God is Order and can bring order where there is disorder. His ways are not our ways. And saying that men can be women and women can be men or that men should be with men and women be with women is disordered. Taking one’s own life is absolutely disordered. Not realizing that your worth comes from God and not from what is fashionable nor what has been done to you (through no fault of your own), is disordered.

God’s ways are greater than our ways (or “Mother ‘Mad Scientist’ Nature’s” ways ; )

I am only going to say this once and I won’t visit this chat room again. The Catholic Church I fell in love with was the first time I saw Catholic priests and nuns marching with and for civil rights and protesting. The first and true religion. The religion that doesn’t ask me a million questions about my household and demand 10% of my income. The religion I have been baptized into as a newborn. I’m Sephardic Jewish ethnically, but our family converted decades ago. My family crest still is only one of the few that has the Star of David :star_of_david: on it, in Spain I’m also French and Greek, Italian and Portuguese. I have Irish and Scottish blood. Obviously we were nomads running about with no true home. I went to Catholic school and church. From kindergarten until high school. They made it absolutely impossible to afford in the end. To me that was their downfall. All the people here judging and trying to be the best alpha voice is ridiculous to me. I’m not a submissive woman who just takes it. My husband of 34 years next month, respects that. He is a feminist. White Norwegian, German and British, men can also be feminist.

I would argue that abortion is a civil rights issues. Half the country believes that the unborn are less than human. You know who else were viewed as less than human? Slaves.

My identity is in Christ Jesus, not in my ethnic heritage. I am only responsible for what I do and not what others in my ancestors have done (bad or good). I am thankful for my Faith. It is a gift. And as far as women go, I would not be the Christian I am today if not for my Mom and my Grandma. They are saints; they are not feminists : )

Do you have any children? I am the oldest of 31 Grandchildren (and that’s not including great-grandchildren). Being from a big family has been a blessing. To get us back on topic ; )

You don’t know what you’re talking about. Almost everything you post is wrong.

“…many ex-catholics have no clue what they’re talking about” do you just make this stuff up?
in fact many catholics don’t know what they’re talking about.

Many ex-catholics are the most knowledgable and intelligent people of all.

You are the one with the “child like mind”.

Peace to all,

Logically and faithfully physical blood and water creation for the Soul becomes from the spirit through the flesh at conception. No one can rationally or faithfully argue, OMNiLogically.

If The Holy Family can be presented properly, logically, then even a child can understand The Mind of God, i believe.

So true, Cade_One, I believe, The Mind of God is Family Planing Oriented.

Catholic Talk is talking like a Catholic, logically, I believe.
What would Jesus do? What would His Father say? And Our Father? His Mother? Our Mother?

Logical physical blood and water creation for the Soul from the spirit through the flesh is at conception, I believe.

Created from The Holy Family by the Father corrupt from the spirit through the failed mortal flesh from Adam through Eve becoming spirit incorruptibly through transformed The Immaculate Conception in the flesh for Jesus through Mary for the New Adam through the New Eve becoming One Body through the Christ in all mankind becoming again for all Creation glorified and transfigured in One Big Big Family, I believe.

The Choice becomes again what is for sale? Used or Not used?

Peace always,
Stephen

Pride.

Faith.