Catholic-Lesbians

My divorced Parents both loved me, but in different ways. My Mom loved me by gifting me boundaries and showing me what it means to love someone, whereas, my Dad shows love by letting me do whatever I wanted to do and showing me what happens when someone lives without morals. Both loved me more than they could fully express, but one’s love was ordered to good and the other was ordered to an inversion of the good.

I could say, well, at least my Dad loved me (and that is certainly true), but there are more than two options of disordered love vs. no love at all. There is still the option of ordered love.

Does this make sense? It’s like people who say, “I vote for the lesser of two evils.” Well, both the Democrats and the Republicans are evil and both view the other as being more evil than themselves. But, there is the option of not voting for evil (either by voting for another candidate on your ballot or by leaving that position blank, essentially voting for NOTA, or “none of the above”).

I just saw this post from a former Anglican Priest who is now a Catholic educator, and I think his post relates to this topic. https://x.com/TaylorRMarshall/status/2048823644743213061?s=20

Peace to all,

So true, Cade_One.

“Throughout these days of Eastertide, the first words spoken by the risen Christ resound throughout the Church: ‘Peace be with you,’“ (Jn 20:19), Pope Leo said. “This greeting invites us not only to accept the Lord’s gift of peace, but also to be messengers of his peace.”

Man renders to Caesar and God. Caesar renders to the same God. The only “One Evil” is to not love, I believe.

Ishmael and Isaac were brothers to each other and cousins to all mankind from two different mothers Sarah and Hagar and a father with two names Abraham and Abram.

We don’t want to judge what’s going on today, but through generalization, we can see what it takes for all to become one family from the Faith of Abraham.

“In our ecumenical journey, I believe the Holy Spirit is inviting us into a deeper practice of hospitality, not simply as welcome, but as a form of ministry: a willingness to make space for one another as those created in the image of God and called to grow more fully into his likeness,” Dame Mullally said in her address. “Already, we receive from one another gifts we cannot generate alone: depth in prayer, courage in witness, perseverance in suffering, and faithfulness in service. In these, our common witness is strengthened.”

Jesus came to remove the separation, causing contention and the mental anger in the metal hatred for all becoming co-heirs to the same throne through the same temple by uniting all brothers and sisters from One Father through One Mother becoming Sons and Daughters of God through One Son “in the Christ” for all mankind becoming again One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.

Peace always,
Stephen

Well, I understand that, but the parenting example works for education, and it is not quite the same thing as a romantic relationship. Your father loved you, although he was naive in the way of raising you. But I wouldn’t say the form of love is the problem. Your example did make sense in showing that there are ways of loving that are better understood than others, and lives that are “chaotic” or tend toward the bad. It reminds me of yandere (idk if you know anime/otaku stuff, but basically, it is a possessive love that leads to violence). This is an example that may have some love, but it is obviously bad (I took an exaggerated example to make it easier to understand, but there are simpler examples of this). However, I don’t think homosexuality necessarily falls into this category of “bad love.” Not being the “usual” way does not mean it is wrong, especially when they have morals and try to stay within the right limits.

Now, about the US elections, I’m not a US citizen, but I agree that both US parties have problems (in my country too). In the US specifically, it is more difficult to elect other candidates than the two “main ones” because your vote isn’t direct; electors vote based on the votes of the state, and this always ends up making the election about two candidates (unfortunately). In this way, it kind of makes sense to choose the “less bad” option because it is the only real way of not electing the one you think is the worst option.

I can talk a lot about the US government, elections, my country’s elections and government… but I think that is not the discussion here, haha. If you want, we can discuss it later, but I don’t see how it would be really productive, although interesting.

This applies to presidential and vice presidential candidates, but as far as I know, all lower offices are filled by a majority of votes.

It isn’t about what is socially acceptable vs. not socially acceptable. If 99 percent of a population wrongly believes something to be good, it does not make it so. Biologically, we can see that God designed male and female to be both unitive and procreative. We call this natural law.

If a man sleeps around with many women, this is disordered. And the chances of this individual of contracting disease and spreading disease is highly likely. But, one man and one women, united in Covenantal Marriage, is not disordered (unless they are closely related to one another biologically)

If a man removes the unitive from the pro-creative or pro-creative from the unitive, it is by default disordered. So individuals of the same sęx would be in violation of natural law.

Pope Benedict wrote an encyclical on the different types of love. It is titled Deus Caritas Est (God is Love: On Christian Love). I think you are partially correct when you say that loving someone is not bad in of itself. I’m sure it falls under one of these types of loves.

But when one moves beyond one form of love to another that is beyond what God intended, it become disordered. So, for instance a parent/child love becoming more than that, becomes immoral (Leviticus 18:6-18).

Not all types of love are appropriate (nor good) for all relationships (in spite of what society pushes). Does this make sense?

My Latin is worse than rusty, but I’m pretty sure that “Deus Caritas Est” means “God Is Love.” Maybe the document was given a different title in the English translation, though.

Thank you. Yes, the Encyclical is “God is Love: On Christion Love” I will correct : )

I have a copy of this encyclical on my bookshelf at home, but you can find it here as well.

Peace to all,

To me love was created with the option to fail and in a system fulfilled through both natures love will love only and love with only the most love becoming again

Peace always,
Stephen