Are tattoos on women a mortal sin?

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The devil! We can personify our own iniquity as some being who is outside of us. But all of us are filled with degrees of pride, selfishness, anger, judgements on others, forgetfulness of God’s presence, etc., etc. Consider the state of the world, not only today, but the history of this planet, as far back as our records go. It is the history of imperialism, exploitation of other nations, their resources, slave markets, genocide (even by the Catholic Church against the Cathars during the “inquisition”, burning them alive). So-called “Satin” cannot approach a soul whose heart is cleaving to God. But when we lapse, in walks “Satin”. It’s all about not being able to serve both God and Mammon. These forms of service are mutually exclusive. There’s no middle ground. If we’re no moving forward, we’re sliding backward.

This is the common ground of all of this in this world…that we are sinfully inclined. Otherwise why would God have to send His Son to point us in a different direction? And what do we do when he comes among us? What did we do? What we did is told on the altar of every Catholic Church.

We are against idol worship. But don’t Catholics bow before the statue of Jesus on the cross when they enter the church? Isn’t it true that so many who wear the cross, as religious necklace, kiss the cross? I find no fault with this.

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I have looked up the words “mortal sin”. From my point of view, the tattoo in itself is not such a serious thing. Anyone can decorate their body as they please, if they feel that it is also pleasing to Jesus. But the problem arises when bodily decorations stimulate men to have sexual desires, and to lust after the bodies of women. When the women of the time of Jesus appeared in public, did they display their bodily tattoos, or did they cover their bodies so that they would not attract the minds of men? Are the fashions advertised in today’s marketplace, advancement of civilization, or are they simply degraded from the values of the time of Jesus? It is understood by social scientists, that most people are followers, and lack personal discretion. E.g., if Trump arrayed in public in a bathing suit, millions of Americans would begin walking around in bathing suites. People are followers……but they don’t know who to follow. Catholics are followers of Jesus, and the standards that he would endorse. If Jesus appeared in our local church today, would women attend the service in jeans that were torn at the knees, so tight that every curve of the body was revealed, and with tattoos showing their uncovered shoulders? Modesty is a means for protecting people against their carnal desires. Why would anyone woman object, unless it was their desire to attract the minds of men in public places, thereby inducing them to desire to be engaged in mortal sin? Would Jesus approve of such a lack of modesty?

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I occurs to me to ask, without a challenging spirit…….why do you label yourself as “bruised”? have people bruised you physically and/or emotionally?

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Tattoos on a female body are self desecration and much worse than that. It’s the worst thing a female can do to permanently damage her natural appearance. In doing so, she says she basically hates men, and if she has kids she would hate her children too.

When a woman desecrates her body with tattoos I think it’s almost on par with murder. The mere sight of a tattooed woman is disgraceful for the eyes of man.

Another thing is the tattoo “artist” is a devil to deceive women.

And it’s just been the past 20 or so years. Women never got tattoos until like 20 years ago it became trendy. But think of how much that dwindles the pool of marriageable (non tattooed) women. If you look around more than half of young women now have more tattoos than drunken sailors. And they’re walking around in trashy clothes

And the tattoo “artist” adds more insult upon injury by tattooing them with completely stupid art like a tacos and windmills and feminist symbols, are you kidding me? They are not artists. They’re more like graffiti “artists” who tag public and private property with vandalism.

As a Catholic myself I find tattoos on women to be appalling. I mean, for any of you defending this as “art” you’ve got to be kidding me

notice how women at mass cover up their tattoos during mass because THEY KNOW tattoos are bad news. The women know they made an irreversible mistake and they know it is a sin that cannot be corrected.

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New American Bible

Leviticus 19:28 - Do not lacerate your bodies for the dead, and do not tattoo yourselves. I am the LORD.

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It’s from a verse in Scripture. You can look that up and how it’s a prophecy.

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Actually we are all bruised, because we live outside of the Garden of Eden. We have to toil very hard, and we can’t keep anything that we acquire. When old age and death comes, we have to leave everything behind. So much hard work……and then all finished. One has to question, if God is in heaven surrounded by the heavenly hosts of angels who are engaged in His glorification, why are we born here in the realm of birth and death. Why are we afflicted, from the time we are born until we die, with self-centered desires that put individuals, and even countries in conflict. The answer is given in different scriptures: We are fallen angels. The garden of Eden is the spiritual world. And we have been evicted, because we have succumbed to the temptation of wanting to enjoy, to seek our satisfaction, in separation from God. Therefore we take birth in the material realm……….the realm where everyone is bruised again and again. In this way, humility can gradually dawn, so that we can begin to hear the voice of God’s son, who says, “Those who have ears (for what I am saying) let them hear.” Otherwise, why would god place us in such a predicament? It is only for our redemption. We live in the world of bruised reeds.

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And what is this? :slightly_smiling_face: ^^

Look how many replies we had before this little verse came up?

The answer is in the good book!

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Jacques,
re: “And what is this? :slightly_smiling_face: ^^”

It’s a verse from the Catholic New American Bible.

re: “Look how many replies we had before this little verse came up?”

To answer your question, It looks like there were 25 previous replies.

re: “The answer is in the good book!”

The answer to what? And to what book are you referring?

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It’s the year 2025. Wake up. Tattoos on females is a mortal sin in my book! They’re awful. it’s just as bad as murder

Let me ask you this: Why do women all hide their tattoos at mass???

Answer: because they know they made a massive mistake. It’s irreparable and unforgivable.

It’s child abuse too. Imagine opening your eyes and the first thing you see is a desecrated mother full of graffiti and foolish images of tacos and stupid shapes branded onto her. It’s child abuse

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Well, that’s your opinion and nothing more. If it’s not Catholic teaching, and it isn’t, it doesn’t matter.

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I’m sure your views are in line with catholic “teaching”. That is completely unimportant. I form my opinions based on reason and common sense. Not catholic teaching. An important distinction. The main reason I left the church was because of the incompatability of these two.

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The Catholic Church teaches that both Faith and Reason are compatible, not opposed to one another. But, if one’s reason opposes what is ordered to God, then it opposes that which is true, good, and beautiful.

St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, have explored the relationship between faith and reason, highlighting their harmony and mutual dependence.

In “Confessions” and “City of God,” Augustine emphasized faith as a prerequisite for understanding.

Aquinas, in his “Summa Theologica” and other writings, saw faith and reason as distinct but complementary paths to truth. He saw that reason plays a role in understanding revealed truths, as well as natural law (which is ordered to God’s plan for creation).

God’s ways are not our ways (Isaiah 55:8-9)

Reason is what separates us from other creatures. The Bible talks a lot about wisdom. Wisdom is when reason is ordered to God. Proverbs 1:7 says that “reverence, awe, and respect towards God is the beginning of knowledge; fools despise wisdom and instruction.”

Hope this clarifies what Catholic Christians actually believe in regards to faith, reason, and wisdom, in case there was any confusion.

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Hello David! I am not a Catholic. But I do have reverential feelings for Jesus. I believe that God, our eternal Father, sent Jesus to teach us, to counsel us, to tell us that the material dimension is not our real home, and that we should not look for our reward in this dimension.

I do not accept that Jesus is God. Rather he is son of God. But just as the ambassador of the president of a country must be given the respect that is due to the president, God’s ambassador should be given the respect that that is due to God. In this sense, Jesus and God are “One”. But they are two distinct persons. One is God the Father…..and the other is His intimate associate and eteranal loving servant. But we should worship Jesus as we would worship God the Father….and this will be more pleasing to God than to try to approach Him directly.

Jesus came to teach us what love of the Father is. Except through God’s intimate loving servant, we cannot understand “love of God”. This is what Jesus has come to share with us. This is the difference between the “laws” of the Judaic path of worship, and the teachings of Jesus. The Judaic path is about laws and commandments. Obedience. Jesus is predicted as coming to teach the next step: Love of God. Jesus says this to the scribes and pharasies when they ask him “What is the highest law, the highest rule?” Jesus said directly, “The highest law is to love the Lord thy God with all of thy heart, all of they strength.” This is because above all…….God wants our love.

Love of God is not about asking God for anything. If we worship God while asking for something in return……..that is a business deal…….that is not unmotivated worship, not unalloyed worship. Real love of God is, as Jesus has shown by his personal example: "Not what I want, but all am concerned about is what is pleasing to You. Not my will, but Thy will be done.”

The line of representatives coming down to us from Jesus……..what is their qualification? Their qualification is that they can share with us the same quality of love of God the Father, as Jesus can share with us. No one can become qualified to share love of God with us by receiving the votes of other men. Even if the whole world voted for someone to be the representative of God, for sharing love of God with us, that would not serve to endow such a person with the love of the Lord that Jesus wishes to share with us. The man who receives votes……he can give us encouragement by quoting scripture, by giving sermons. But only one who has this quality of love in his heart can share the taste of love of God with us.

The genuine path for achieving, for receiving love of God is the process of spiritual empathy. One must have such an intimate quality of association with God’s loving servant, that our heart becomes influenced by their nature. For a Christian, this means that one must have such an intimate association with Jesus, or the bonafide representative of Jesus, that one begins to feel his presence and imbibe the taste of his love for God. This is what Jesus meant when he said, “There is no way to the Father except through me.” It is not that by officially going through a ceremony and saying, “I accept Jesus.”, that the job is finished. Rather, that is the first step. Just as if a medical student says, “I accept John Hopkins medical school”, this does not mean that one graduates with a diploma. He has to submit himself, heart and soul, to the training. And even then he is not qualified, not authorized to do surgery. Rather, he has to become an intern in the hospital and work as an apprentice to an authorized surgeon. He has all the text book learning. But that is not sufficient. In the same way Jesus is the “journeyman” intimate associate of God. We have cultivate love of God under his guidance. Therefore Jesus says, “Accept the yoke that I wear.” What is that yoke? It is the yoke of love of God. His every thought, word and deed are invoked under that yoke. But how can we come to that orientation, that demeanor of the heart? Only be becoming an understudy, an apprentice, an intern under his guidance. And this requires the most intimate relationship that induces Jesus, or his bonafide representative, to share his feelings of love of God with us. This is the narrow path through the “straight gate” that Jesus is pointing to. So much to consider. We have to contemplate what Jesus meant when he said, “You will say that you have done this in my name, and this, and this, and this……. but when the time comes to depart from your present body, and the time of judgement arrives, I will say unto you, ‘I never knew you’.” Therefore, if we are serious about coming closer to God, we have to begin to cultivate an ardently intimate association with Him, so that we can come to understand his heart. If we really love Jesus, or his bonafide representative, he will share his love for our eternal Father……with us. This is the way, the truth. Amen.

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The why do women conceal their tattoos while at mass?

Why doesn’t she show the priest her new tattoos of a washing machine, a windmill, tacos and rainbow flags? Or the neck tattoo of her last abusive boyfriend

If she was in the right with the Lord - she wouldn’t be hiding the “artwork”

And tonight I’ve realized I don’t even want to associate with guys who cover themselves with tattoos just because it’s the hip thing or they think it looks cool or sexy. I won’t even associate with them if I can help it!

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Jesus was the son of God in the same sense as all of us are the sons of God. Nothing more.

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I am inclined to agree with you David. “When you say, “I form my opinions based on reason and common sense. Not catholic teaching.”, I respect that, although there may be people who say that they form their opinions based on reason and common sense…..not catholic teaching, ………who are opposed to everything that faith in God stands for.

From my point of view, there are two categories of believers. One category desires to be closer to God………but does not have a living experience of the presence of God in their lives. Therefore they are inclined to cling to dogma as it is presented by the church.

The other man stands alone. He has practical heartfelt experience of God in his life. So he doesn’t feel the need to enhance his sense of self by aligning himself with institutionalized religion.

Both stands are progressive. The one who embraces what you refer to as the “teaching” is not an atheist, and thereby points his foot in the right direction………and can grow from that point.

As the church becomes hitched to the state, which includes the economics of the nation, etc., the leadership of the church will necessarily tend to become compromised. Jesus was not a Roman. But as Christianity became more prevalent among the people, the leaders of Roman government saw fit to make Christianity the religion of the nation, thereby utilizing religion as a convenient means for controlling the public mind. Such are the ways and means of this world. In this way, the “teachings” will be tweaked in order to achieve the goals of the controlling sectors of society. For example, if a given section of society stands independent of the control of the church…….the church will implement an “inquisition” as was enacted in previous centuries in which thousands were burned alive at the stake…….in the name of Jesus.

In this way, from pope to pope, new standards, new teachings will inevitably be introduced, for controlling the herd that is simultaneously being influenced by the cultural evolution of factors like science, the world-wide web, social values, etc. For example, today we have churches that marry homosexuals, endorse contraception, etc., etc.

So the question arises as to what is the real function of a pope. But in order answer this question, one has to first understand our relationship with Jesus.

Jesus teaches that good works alone are not sufficient in the eyes of God. He also teaches that love of God is the highest and foremost principle of real spiritual life. These are two ways of saying the same thing………i.e., that a heartfelt living relationship with God is actually what Jesus is teaching. Simply doing things, officially, in the name of God ……… Jesus says, “I never knew you.”

Therefore, what is required of us, is that we have to be able to open our hearts to Jesus in a degree of intimacy that enables us to imbibe from him the living taste of love of the Lord. This is what Jesus is teaching, both conceptually, and subjectively. By “subjectively”, we mean that we not only understand the philosophy that Jesus is sharing with us. We also acquire the flavor of love of God that he carries in his heart, by the process of intimate association. After all, Jesus says, “Accept the yoke that I wear”. The yoke that Jesus wears is not a physical yoke. It is the yoke of the heart, in submission to God’s will, which tempers his every thought, word, and deed.

With this in mind, we can understand, the role of the pope. If he wears the yoke the Jesus wears, then we can imbibe from him the taste of love of God that Jesus wishes to share with us. Of course, no amount of votes from a gathering of cardinals can bestow upon a man this beautification of the heart that Jesus desires to share with all of humanity. If a man doesn’t carry this beautification in his heart…….we cannot acquire this beautification from him.

Therefore, in this sense, David, your separation from the church is understandable to me. But not to those who cleave to the church as our only hope of acquiring our ticket to heaven.

As religion can be the framework of one’s total sense of self, there will naturally be some who will cry “heresy!”, and will feel self-righteous wanting to burn you at the stake. So perhaps we should be more diplomatic by trying to find a meeting point when desiring to share our views and convictions. After all, this is a form for Catholic talk. I also have opinions and convictions that are not 100% in line with the Catholicism, but I try to find a meeting point through which to share my ideas. Best wishes, Peter

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I disagree with you David.

We are all sons of God. But whereas Jesus informs us that he is “In this world, but not of this world”, we are definitely “of this world”. Out of His infinite inconceivable kindness, God, our eternal Father, sends His representatives to us, from the spiritual realm, in order to inspire in our hearts a desire to qualify ourselves for immigrating to the spiritual realm, where God resides surrounded by the heavenly hosts who glorify Him in an ongoing mood of joyful celebration.

Jesus is God’s very intimate associate, who has been sent to us, for our eternal benefit. An ordinary man of this world could not do the things that Jesus did while he was here. Even when he was crucified with metal spikes through his hands and feet, his heart was so filled with spiritual love, that his foremost concern was that God should forgive those who were crucifying him. In other words, he was above the demands of the material senses, the dualities that wreak havoc in the lives of earthly men.

Jesus is empowered to do the work that he does, even to this day. But there is only one proof of this. And that is up to us. If we want to know Jesus, we have to approach him with all the sincerity and humility that we can muster, and then come to our own conclusions. According to the New Testament, Jesus could heal the sick, restore vision to the blind, instruct the winds over the waters to stop blowing forcefully, walk on the water, feet hundreds with only enough food for for a few men, foresee the future crucifixion (and accept it), rise from the tomb and walk away preaching the good news. But if we don’t accept these descriptions, then for what purpose are we gathered together here on this site?

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Jesus never actually said the things you think he said. Those bible quotes of Jesus were the product of the imagination of the authors of the verse.

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If we don’t accept scripture, where do we go from here?

Are you simply here to challenge religion? Religion without scripture is simply concoction.

If we don’t accept scripture, why are we commenting on this site?

Do you follow any spiritual path? Or do you simply want to say it is all BS?

Please explain your participation.