St. Faustina and ''The Divine Mercy'', masonic deceit or divine apparition?

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I feel like people forget (or just don’t know) that St. Faustina’s Diary wasn’t always accepted by the Church. From 1959 until the late 1970s, the Holy Office actually restricted the Divine Mercy devotion and the circulation of her writings. The main reasons were bad translations and theological confusion, not because Faustina was condemned as a false mystic. The ban was eventually lifted after better Polish originals were examined — after Vatican II — and then everything moved very fast under John Paul II, who was polish.

What’s even more disturbing is the history of the original Divine Mercy image. The first painting was done by Eugeniusz Kazimirowski, and contrary to how sanitized the story is today, he was a Freemason. Later in his life, he painted himself as Judas Iscariot and he eventually killed himself. Him portraying himself as Judas, the man who betrayed Christ, and then killing himself, just like Judas did, is very interesting.

Some people (and I am not sure where I stand on this but) also claim that there is masonic symbolism in the painting and that it is actually a painting of anti-christ (square and compass shape rays, the secret trademark).

Pope Leo XIII constantly warned of their (freemasons and jews) infiltration plan, because the ultimate goal of freemasons is to abolish the Catholic Church.

Could John Paul the Second have had ulterior motives approving of St. Faustina’s diary and the devotion of Divine Mercy? Could he have been a freemason ? An ‘’antipope’’?

There are also many people that think Vatican II itself is a heresy. And this position seems to be growing among catholics. Especially because:

Major Heresies of Vatican II

  1. Nostra Aetate #4

Jews are not rejected by God.

But Council of Florence defined all are rejected who hold different view than that of the Catholic view of Christ.

  1. Orientalium Ecclesiarum #27

Non Catholics can receive Holy Communion including schismatics and others.

Pope Eugene IV said 'He who eats the lamb out side of this house profanes.

  1. Unitatis Redintegratio’s decree on Eccumenism

Members of Protestant and Easter sects brought into partial communion with the Catholic Church.

Leo XIII said in Santus Cognitum (Unity of Church)

Consider those outside of Catholic Communion anyone who recedes from any point of Catholic Doctrine.

Vatican II also said that those who are brought up as protestants can not be accused of heresy.

  1. Dignitatis Humanae (Religious Liberty)

JPII said this was a counter Syllabus of Pope Pius IX

Pope Pius IX taught that it is the duty of the state to suppress non Catholic religions in his Syllabus of Error.

  1. Lumen Gentium

JPII proclaimed heresy that Muslims and Catholics worship the same God and kissed the Qur’an, the holy book of muslims.

  1. Nostra Aetate #2

Buddhism teaches a way by which those may reach a state of highest illumination.

JPII said Buddhism was the riches of Asia.

  1. Lumen Gentium #15

Taught that the Church is joined to those who are baptized but not profess the faith in continuity and do not accept St Peter; the Popes.

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To add, her diary was banned 3 TIMES by 2 different popes, until the heretic JPII was elected pope, who quickly pushed for the devotion to pray it instead of the rosary.

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Sisternightingale, you posed a lot of questions, and I don’t have enough facts to answer them. It might take me days if I were just to research them. But thank you for raising them, and I will give you a few thoughts, for what they are worth.

First, although I don’t have an opinion about the claimed visions of Sister Faustina, the involvement of a Masonic artist does not, to me, say anything about their authenticity. In the early years of the United States, a lot of the political leaders were Freemasons. Yet they signed our Declaration of Independence from Britain, which stated “that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” If the Masons believed that, great. These are timeless principles, and the endorsement of Masons doesn’t change that.

Pope John Paul II made mistakes and committed sins, as we all do. That does not make him a heretic, and I don’t think he would have discouraged anyone from praying the rosary. He introduced the Luminous Mysteries.

As for Muslims and Christians worshipping the same God, the way we worship, our beliefs, and our interpretation of God’s will are very different, but that doesn’t mean that our faiths are in different Gods.

As for Pope John Paul II referring to Buddhism as riches, I did not find the original quotation, only a statement that he referred to “the riches of Asian religions and cultures”—if this is accurate, then he was acknowledging their value, not necessarily saying that the religions are true.

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The answer is: no. St. John Paul II did not have ulterior motives. St. John Paul II was not a freemason. St. John Paul II was not an antipope.

If you actually look at the life and teachings of John Paul II over many years and don’t just read what rad trads say about him, you would find that his beliefs and mission were actually antithetical to Freemasonry. It may be worth mentioning that another Polish saint whom St. John Paul II canonized was St. Maximilian Kolbe who was very active against Freemasonry.

The Church would not have canonized him as one of the saints if he were a freemason.

I will not respond here to the section you call “Major Heresies of Vatican II” in order to stay on topic about Divine Mercy (the topic you gave). Perhaps those can be dealt with in another thread. I will only state that Vatican II was not heretical. (Same with your claim about Leo XIII.)

You correctly state that there was a time when the writings of St. Faustina were censored. And you correctly identify translation issues as the reason. It is not surprising that things would move along quicker with a Polish pope, since he could read it in its original language (Polish, unlike other languages like English and French is not a very global language; few non-Poles speak the language).

Although I don’t know much about the artist, I have to say that I am always sceptical when people are accused of being freemasons. There are certain traditionalists who - when they don’t like something - will claim that people involved are freemasons. I’d like to know what proof there is that the artist was a freemason (and, by proof, I don’t mean something someone once wrote on a blog).

Even if the artist was a freemason, it does not mean that Divine Mercy is masonic. I know you said you were not convinced about this, but I have to say that the claim that the painting contains their symbolism is (to put it bluntly) stupid. It does not.

But even if the painting did contain such symbolism, it may be of interest to you to know that even St. Faustina was disappointed with the painting. So it’s not like the devotion is all about one version of the image (there have been other artistic renderings made based on what St. Faustina wrote).

I would recommend that you find new sources for information than the ones who told you this stuff.

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What do you mean our faith is not in different gods?? Muslims literally worship the black cube of saturn. You think muslims are not heretics then, if you don’t think that kissing the quran is heretical?

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Sorry, I never read anything you write because you keep posting that Mary is god and you count the Holy Spirit, the Father, And the Son as 3 gods, when they are only 1 God and not only that your language is all over the place and I really don’t understand what you’re saying, it feels like you’re trying to start another church

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What apparitions do you like Stephen? I’m not too big into them, but you like Faustina. What about the Medjugorje Apparitions or the Fatima ones?

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I don’t know about Muslims worshipping the cube. Some people say that Catholics worship statues. Muslims say that there is one God, Allah. Maybe they really have a cube god too? I think that Allah is their name for the same God we worship. Could I be wrong? Sure. Kissing the Koran was at least a bad idea, a mistake, maybe a sin, but I suspect (I don’t know) that the pope was trying to show respect for others’ beliefs, not endorse them. Again, a mistake, maybe a sin, not necessarily heresy.

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Surely you realize that God literally had to use the Catholic Church to stop the invasion and tyranny and barbarism of muslims?? What do you think crusades were about?? I can’t believe how lightly you think of all this.

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I would caution you on where you are getting your information. There are traditional Catholic Christians who believe certain things that may be based in some truth, but exaggerated to support a particular narrative. Often what is claimed was said was stripped of its proper context or intended purpose.

I like a good conspiracy theory. Among my friends and family, I am seen as “the conspiracy guy,” but it is because I am willing to entertain theories, however it does not mean that I accept every theory that is presented. I’ll listen to them for entertainment purposes.

When it comes to the Divine Mercy, I can be skeptical of it’s origins, but at the same time appreciate it for what it is. “Jesus, I trust in You,” is a Prayer that is good, true & beautiful. And the red and blue rays reflect the blood & water which flowed from the side of Christ on the Cross (John 19:34). The water symbolizes Baptism and the Blood His holy Eucharist, the means by which Christ pours out His salvific grace from the Cross to His faithful.

Dr. Taylor Marshall wrote a book about the Freemason Infiltration and I assume that he gives a practical response to it, but I have not read the book myself.

Throughout Salvation History there has been good leaders and not so good leaders. And through it all, God has been faithful to those who have faith in Him.

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Pick one, which one would you like to discuss?

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Pick one, which one would you like to discuss?

As I mentioned above (reproduced below), I could not find this statement online, only an indirect quotation of a statement. Can you please point us to the original? Thank you.

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Please don’t respond to my posts with gibberish