I’ve always been somewhat skeptical of the theory that the St. Gallen Mafia got Francis elected, but this does not help convince me that there is not some truth to it.
Apparently Pope Leo has/is ordaining a Priest who pushes nonsense. And wouldn’t you know that he is from St. Gallen.
If this is a mistake, Pope Leo has the authority to correct his mistake. If he does not, I am convinced that he does all the external things to give the appearance that he is not another Francis, but will implement the St. Gallen agenda by way of ordaining Bishops and Cardinals who also desire to pervert the teachings of the Apostolic Faith.
I Pray continually for good Priests and Bishops in the Church. We need strong men of God, not weak men who just became Priests, because they like pageantry. We are all sinners and have weaknesses of our own, but we should not make these weaknesses our identity. Rather, we should order our will to God’s will and order, for God is Order and Love (not one at the expense of the other).
And the successors of the Apostles were/are given special authority and responsibility to protect what is good, true & beautiful, not to pervert it!
“Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil, who change darkness to light, and light into darkness, who change bitter to sweet, and sweet into bitter! Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes, prudent in their own view!” — Isaiah 5:20-21
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I never investigated this before and the video link is two hours long. Would mind sharing a brief recap about this subject and your opinion about it. Thank you.
Unfortunately, this type of thing, does not help. We have a new Pope, elected by the Cardinals. A Tradition, a long tradition that began before many countries came to existence. Maybe for the best, for the time being, to leave out conspiracy theories, and support the new Pontiff on his new journey.
I was being ingenuous here. I said that there is a possibility that he is making a mistake. I also said that I do not fully believe the theory, but this does not help your claim that there is no agenda taking place here. I also gave him the opportunity to prove my claim wrong by making right his wrong. We do not need more perverts appointed to Offices where their job is to protect truth.
This past weekend, Comedy Central’s The Daily Show had a bit with the following premise: We need more individual to join the Military, but our Commander in Chief has decided to disallow individuals who have gendęr dysphorią to serve in the armed forces. The joke being that we need more individuals to join the Military, but here is someone who is kicking individuals out (implying wouldn’t you take what you can get).
Jokes are funny, because there is a grain of truth in them. This joke lacks truth. The truth is no dissimilar to the Catholic Church. We have fewer Priests than before they began ordaining pervęrted men to the Priesthood. Honorable men do not want to join an institution that lets just anyone in. This goes for the Priesthood and the Military.
So, if you think that I have a personal beef with Pope Leo, I do not. I just don’t trust him yet. I defended Pope Francis in the beginning of his pontificate until I could no longer in good conscience do so. He kept making the same mistakes over and over (or intentionally).
We should Pray for more solid Bishops, who defend the Faith, not ones who subvert it. Again, I’m not saying that this is what Pope Leo is trying to do. He could have made a mistake, but if it was a mistake, he has the authority (and dare I say responsibility) to correct his mistake. Ordaining an individual who pushes the same things that the world is pushing should not be ordained a Bishop! Like Comedy Central, I’m open to hearing why you believe otherwise.
There has been a leak that has come out that suggests Pope Leo may make Bishop Gletler, of Vienna, a Cardinal. This too would be another concerning appointment by Pope Leo. Is he purposely undermining the Faith through appointment, while publicly saying all the good things (like a snake would)? Or is this just another mistake?
Gletler is into “unsettling” modern art (not to be confused with contemporary Christian art). He allegedly put a piece in the Cathedral made of frogs crucified. Another of a pig heart in a cøndom to represent the Sacred Heart (or perhaps something more pęrverted). He allegedly replaced a traditional Stations of the Cross in a Vienna Church with his own photographic works reflecting on the war in Ukraine. In a Catholic Hospital, he put a sculpture of Christ, or Lord, hanging upside down by his feet (I’m sure there was some sort of symbolic or political reason for this piece as well).
A Bishop should be promoting Sacred Art, which lifts the soul to what is good, true, and beautiful. Not, that which is conveying a political message nor is provocative for provocative’s sake.
In addition to this, Gletler is pushing for women’s ordination among other agendas. If he wants these things, then he should become Lutheran or some other Protestant Denomination that has already done these things. He clearly wants to get with the modernists (based on his love of modern art alone). If Pope Leto makes this guy a Cardinal, then again, I question Pope Leo’s true intentions.
We need Bishops who will defend the Faith from pęrversion, not contribute to it.
If I came into your home and began teaching your children things that are inverted, would you be okay with this?
“What would Jesus do?” Jesus would correct. Jesus would speak truth in love. This is what I want in our Bishops and from the Bishop of Rome, successors of the Apostles chosen by Christ.
Snakes have been known to enter the den in sheeps’ clothing and yes, Jesus was/is the good shepherd, but you seem to think that Jesus would be cool with snakes corrupting the flock. You seem to assume that we should be cool with it as well.
Why do you believe Pope Leo is making these very bad appointments? Do you believe it is out of ignorance or by design? I will say it a third time. If it is out of incompetence, then I will give him the benefit of the doubt, but if it is intentional, then I will call a snake a snake. Right now, I am trying to figure out which is true. Or if maybe he is not a snake nor a sheep, but rather some other animal or breed.
I left the Church for a time in my life. I returned home, only to find Mother Church having an [o]rgy with the neighbors! I am being hyperbolic here, but I left the fluffy Non-Denominational Church to return to what I thought was a solid foundation, only to witness the Church founded on and by Christ to be mingling with the ideas of Churches that have since split off from the Catholic/Orthodox Church.
One of the three branches of Lutheranism now ordain women and Pastors in openly same-s[e]x relationship. The “United” Methodists just split over the LGBTQA.i.+ nonsense. It seems that too many Catholic clergy want the Catholic Christian Church to follow in their ways, rather than simply converting.
This is my concern. Mother Church (in my analogy) used to believe in objective morality and cared about protecting her Family from evil and the lifestyles that our neighbors participated in. And she was Married to my Father who remained faithful and always will to her and to us. You asked “What would Jesus do?” Jesus would not turn His back on His Family nor invite “swingers” into our home for a little mingle, especially knowing how impulsive and easily influenced His Wife has become, since some of her children have gone astray.
“Getting with the times” will not win her children back. It will make them resent her and be disappointed in her. I want Mom to stop doing what she is doing, to rekindle her relationship with her Husband and not with the world, and certainly not with the neighbors who might share some things in common, but are not good examples.
You want to be the brother who wants to deny that our Parent is having problems. You want to ignore that there is a problem. I can’t unsee what I am seeing. Maybe it is because you have not left home yet. And maybe it is because I have left home and then have returned that I can see how things have changed and not for the better.
You think pointing out Mom’s behavior is disrespectful, but I don’t think she will see the error in her ways if we don’t say something.
Pope Leo is still saying very good things, but doing snaky things. He has made another really discouraging appointment! He is elevating Bishop Shane Mackinlay to an Arch Bishop in Australia. A simple google search of this man and you will find several red flags about this Bishop!
He is in favor female deaconesses. He promoted a pagan idol in his Cathedral (it was displayed there, and may possibly still be). This is Pachamama scandal all over again. The National Catholic Reporter likes this guy, which is also a red flag.
Yes, I say let us give the man a chance. Every pope must introduce change in order to give the people a a way to walk closer to God in terms of the time and culture that we live in. I feel that Leo has the courage to to look forward instead of backward. And time will reveal his sincerity. Moses gave the Jews the 10 commandments, because that was as much as they could try to assimilate. Jesus said that the rules were good, but that the real rule of all rules is to actually open our hearts and love God (literally) with all our strength. Both Moses and Jesus are right, even though their teachings are very different. But they are teaching what the people can begin to follow. So each real teacher has to be ready to consider what is best for the congregation, and begin from that point. The goal remains the same, Love of God, but the path has to be tailor-made, disrated by one who is closest to God.
People that talk “climate change” have problems with ideological subversive. And Pope Leo does talk climate change… hopefully his course on woke politics reverses and goes in the right direction soon
However, popes have big jobs and I don’t always understand pope politics or their political philosophy can look confusing to me.
So far, I think Pope Leo is doing a good job, minus these few concerning appointments. He is definitely an improvement from his predecessor (but, that is not saying much). I Pray for Pope Leo and that he is not a snake, but rather someone who takes his role seriously.
The Catholic church is fabulously wealthy. There are descriptions online. Real estate, priceless art pieces, investments in insurance companies, etc. all estimated to be in the tens of billions, some say hundreds of billions. Therefore if a pope wants to implement something different from the status quo, he has to be very careful not to disturb the minds of those who manage that wealth. It is not uncommon for leaders of churches and governments to be killed if they don’t play ball with the people backstage who pull the strings. Don’t forget… the very people who arranged to have Jesus crucified…they were the religious leaders of his time. Even if a pope is very sincere, and wants to implement changes, like having priests who are child molesters put in prisons, and telling Catholics across the globe to refuse to engage in political wars, and instruct Catholics to demonstrate against governments who are engaged in genicide (as is going on in Gaza today, funded by United States grants of money and weapons to Isreal), he has to consider the probable consequences. If a pope really wants to represent Jesus, he may have to leave the church and go out on his own. These are the ways of the world. I feel, from watching some video clips, that Leo is a sincere soul. But as he tries to make positive changes, he may meet with a lot of challenges from backstage.
What do you mean by “leave the church”? You used a small “C” which I imply as meaning the mystical body of Christ. That would not be good. If you mean capital “C” meaning the institution or the Magisterium (teaching authority of the successors of the Apostles? I think you mean the institution (bureaucracy) and not the Magisterium.
We have to remember that Vatican City is also a City-State, which brings with it other responsibilities outside of the Church. I think it has to be this way to protect the Church from corrupt or power-hungry politicians. The Church has had her share of corruptions and evil men in power. Some of our worst Popes, way worse than Pope Francis. I joked that my Lutheran friends could have Pope Francis, but Francis wouldn’t leave ; )
If these bad Priests committed crimes in Vatican-City, then the Pope could try them and put them in prison for their evil actions. We had a former Priest at our Parish who is sitting in prison right now for doing the very thing that you mention. He will be there until the end of his life (rightfully so). And corrupt Priests who, for whatever reasons, are not held accountable for their deeds, God will hold them accountable for what they have done (James 3:1).
Matthew 18:6 and Luke 17:1 says, “Things that cause sin will inevitably occur, but woe to the person through whom they occur. Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.”
There are also verses like 1 Timothy 5:19 which says, “Do not accept an accusation against a Presbyter unless it is supported by two or three witnesses.”
We have had false allegations in the Church. Cardinal George Pell comes to mind (may he rest in peace and the perpetual Light shine upon him).
Most Popes and the teaching of the Catechism of the Catholic Church talk about unjust wars and how we should not support them. Many modern wars have been started based on lies or false-flags. We need to be careful not to be deceived by men who seek power and control and will do so at the cost of many lives.
Pope Francis did not do this when he tried to push a pharmaceutical product as a moral responsibility of the faithful in “warp speed,” but I digress. I had relatives who were short of calling me a “Grandma Killer.” My Grandma was one of my favorite people in the entire world and it is interesting that the one who blames herself for my Grandma’s death after having had Covid was fully vaxxed with all eight boosters. You were lied to. You were told that if you injected this experimental product into your bloodstream that you could not get it. Then when people got it, they were told they could not spread it. And when people got it and spread it, they were told that it would have been worse had they not rolled up their sleeves (based on what evidence?) I received no apologies from these individuals. Nor do I blame them for my Grandma’s death. I blame the individuals who gave us this virus (presumably by accidental lab leak of a virus that never would have naturally been created without the help of scientists doing research).
Bishops and Priests cowardly shut down our Churches during this fearful time, while Saints like (Saint Fr. Damien de Veuster) were courageously visiting a leprosy colony, knowing that faith > fear and that these souls needed God especially in their midst of fear and suffering.
I think this is why Pope Benedict resigned. I believe he wanted to expose corruption (financial) and certain individuals had a problem with this.
It would be a cool movie plot to portray a Pope or Bishop who wanted to do the right thing. One of the plot points could be he is falsely accused of heinous acts like Cardinal Pell, perseveres in faith that the truth shall set him free. Then discovers financial corruption and is threatened, but remains courageous and does what is right and just anyway, but is killed by individuals who were not happy with him. But, through it all, he carries his Cross and inspires a man who was in the midst of losing his faith. You could have sequels where men and women who are inspired by or who knew the brave Pope during various points in his life and how their relationship with the man impacted their relationship with Christ, our Savior. It could be done in an authentic way and not another cheesy Christian movies that is overly preachy, but that inspires. Mel Gibson type of film. Gritty and raw. Human, but reverent of Who God is.
Thank you Cade, for your very thoughtful and personal response. A lot to think about. A lot to consider. I am not a Catholic, but I do have conviction that Jesus was sent to earth by God, our eternal Father. As a child I was raised in the home of atheists, and of course never questioned my parents convictions. Then I went to university, and my science teachers taught me that only primitive people believe in God. Finally I read the New Testament and was very moved by the portrayal of the activities and teachings of Jesus. When I read the Bible and at the same time consider the way Christians live today, I see that Jesus was very strict and tells us that a very serious following of him is required…not like going to church on Sunday…but moment to moment surrender of the heart and a living sense of reciprocation of love with him. From everything I can understand, the only way in which we can be diverted from our materialistic ways is by having a living relationship with Jesus, and thereby be influenced by his presence within us. Just trying to be a “good” person is not sufficient.
I agree. Conversion (a turning towards God our Father) comes from Christ. And He uses others and even you and me to touch the lives of others, but all glory and praise are His. I often think and Pray for all those who God has put in my own life and who have helped me on my faith journey. God has blessed me personally with some pretty special individuals who have shown me what it means to have a living relationship with Jesus and in turn, I too now have a living relationship with Him. And I thank Him for the many conversions I have experience on this journey of life. In Him, there is joy, peace, love, hope, patience, trust, and much-needed grace.
This is very wonderful, what you are saying…very beautiful. It is not about being a “member” of something officially. It is about living the experience that one is speaking of. It is not simply trying to be a “good” person with the hope that one will be saved or go to heaven in the future. It is about living in heaven now, in present time. I believe in this, and aspire to live in this way. I do my morning prayers every day, before the sun rises, and in this way cultivate a living sense of connection with God. To remain in this frame of mind/heart during the day is more challenging to me, as I am habitually inclined to become overly concerned about getting everything done nicely, and about the apparent success and failure of the things I am doing. In fact, God is in control, and He makes some things appear successful and otherwise. But we are inclined to take credit for our successes and feel defeated when things don’t work out. All of our activities should be done in a sense of loving service to God, knowing that He is in control of the movement of “every blade of grass”. If we are simply trying to please Him by our activities, all those activities are a success. Detachment from the fruits of our labor is the gift of the spirit when our only desire is to be pleasing to the Lord. And if we are trying to be in control of things, this leads to frustration, anger, disappointment, feelings of defeat, etc. I am a beginner in this new way of living, so I have to pick myself up and start again with renewed spirit, many times during the day. But this orientation is my resting place, my place of shelter from the storm that is caused by my own lack of bowing down before God. But having begun this journey, I am filled with hope.
