Well, again sweetie, I have no desire to learn more about Maria Valtorta regardless if she has an imprimatur or not. It’s just not something I’m interested in. But I’m glad it helps you. Everything that exists on Earth exists to help us grow in love, and Maria Valtorta’s visions are no different. Just because something doesn’t resonate with me, doesn’t mean it’s this horrible terrible thing and no one else should ever read it. My brother read The Poem of the Man-God and loved it. My grandmother who was deeply religious read it and loved it too. Everything that is on this Earth, from the trees to abstract concepts like love, exist to only help us grow and evolve, every single thing. I’m allowed to disagree with something, but at the same time, I’m not going to say it won’t help elsewhere cause it’s helped my family. I might be super skeptical, but I’m not blind.
It is not a flaw. Everything exists to achieve a higher purpose. If evil never existed, than no one would know what real good is, and if good never existed no one would know what real evil is. It’s because Earth runs on duality where there are 2 sides to every issue. Reincarnation makes sense to me, because this loving God that Catholics/Christian’s talk about doesn’t add up. Going along with what Catholic’s/Christian’s believe, if God is loving but just, then where is the justice for all the evil in this 3rd Dimension? Every single day, crimes are being committed on people of all ages. From the very innocent child, to the bullied teenager, to the struggling adult, to the euthanized elder, and yet I don’t see your God stopping those things. And most of these things are happening every single day all around the world, and I don’t see God stepping in for any of those people. Why is it, that at 25 years old I was physically assaulted multiple times by my Father, even though he knew I was on medication for a mental disorder? Where was your God then….He’s so just right? Where was the justice growing up with a stutter and having people laugh at you, talk about you behind your back, pretend to be your friend to gain something from you instead of actually getting to know you? Please tell me, where was your God?! Because every Catholic person I’ve talked to cannot give an answer that makes sense at all! This is one of the flaws in your justice belief!
Right, he doesn’t hold you accountable, you hold yourself accountable, that’s the difference between what I believe happens after you die, compared to what you believe happens after you die. Those who don’t hold themselves accountable will have accumulated so much Karma that they’ll have to reincarnate. It’s really as simple as that….you don’t want to learn anything? Fine, you’ll just be stuck in a reincarnation cycle, you won’t be able to incarnate on other planets, you won’t be able to go to a higher dimension, where the higher you go the more love and at peace you feel. You will constantly have to deal with terrible people on this planet, you’ll constantly have to deal with the injustices of this world. And the only person you have to blame for that is yourself, because God’s not doing that to you, you are. Your external is reflective of what is going on internally. So if you’re basically rude and mean to people, then it’ll be reflected back at you. Karma: What goes around comes around. God is available to help you out on anything it is that you experience on this planet, but because this is a Free Will Universe He let’s things happen in hopes that you and everyone else learn from any bad that happens. Some people may choose not to learn, which is fine because your next life is going to be riddled with problems (again Karma, has to be repaid….you can’t leave this plane of existence without getting rid of all or most of your Karma). For example, let’s say you are born into a very wealthy family. And let’s say your parents let you get away with being downright rude and arrogant. So, you live your life being exactly that, rude and arrogant, and choosing to not learn anything. And then, let’s say you die. Well, you’ll have to go through reincarnation and you can choose to repay some Karma or repay all of it. If you repay all of it, life on Earth will be very very VERY difficult for you. Your life on Earth will not be a cake walk. Or you can repay some of it. So going with the example of having a previous life which you were rich and was rude and arrogant. So, because you were that way, you’ll have parents that are rude and arrogant. You’ll be surrounded by people who will want nothing to do with you, and who bully you. God doesn’t condemn you or damn you to anything, because everything is set in place to where, the only person who brings on injustices is yourself. It’s very much called self-accountability, and the only person you can blame is yourself and not God. You really are your own worst enemy. Another reason why Karma exists is to keep the scales balanced. Going with the example of being born into a rich family that tried to love you. Well, throughout your whole life, you were nothing but arrogant and rude. And so, you did more bad than good in your life. So to counterbalance that, your next life won’t be that great.
Catholicism exists to serve those who resonate with it. if you resonate with Catholicism, than more power to you. I’m not going to argue that it can’t help everyone, I just very much disagree with not just the religious part, but making a business out of values that huemans hold near and dear to their hearts? I don’t think that’s doing anyone any bit of good, but that’s just the opinion I hold. My Mother became closer to God and is living a wonderful life. For 50 or so years of her life she never once followed God, and when she became Catholic she did a complete 360 and turned her life around. I mean, it helps some people, so it’s not all bad. I just don’t want to be tied down to one belief system, because I can see how multiple belief systems can work in tandem. I like having a mix of beliefs, it’s like having a Spiritual Toolbox where I can draw on what belief would serve me. Everything around us is a tool to innerstanding the metaphysical, so why just go off of one belief where you can believe in multiple things?
I can choose whomever I want to believe. What I believe makes no sense to most people, cause most people have a hard time thinking outside of their own bubble. Just because someone doesn’t use Geometry everyday doesn’t mean that someone else out there doesn’t use it, you just don’t use it everyday so it doesn’t apply to you. Beliefs are no different. Just because someone believes that God is loving and just doesn’t mean that that same belief applies to everyone, even though your religion touts that it’s the one true religion. Just like how the experiences I have, the tests that I have done, and the research I have done, while being in a group that was gathered by a 4 Star General who has a Q Security Clearance has shaped my beliefs, doesn’t mean it can’t work for others. I can be open-minded and learn about other religions, but disagree with how they run. Like I have said, Catholicism does help people, but it doesn’t resonate with me.
Finite disciplines fail and understanding the mind of God but logically we can see God with new OMNilLogical eyes.
Fiat is Latin for let it be in the control and power of the one in power and control. Power and control comes from two natures from the power of the Holy Spirit for the created souls of all through the created flesh, becoming one body from the Faith of Abraham.
The logical mind of God existed unfailingly before creation was ever created was even created from logical undefiled intelligence.
What nobody knows is from three gods pre-existing and personal gods and being from the father through the mother for the son all mankind becomes through the Christ.
I use normal logic seventh grade math and an IQ of 108 average intelligence to explain the mind of God to anyone, rationally , faithfully , OMNiLogically.
The Christ is two pre-existing gods becoming one body. The Christ is the new living sacrifice that transforms and glorifies and transfigures both nature Becoming again in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.
The Catholic Church will one day soon see the Holy Spirit as a family of God understanding Mary as Coredemptive within the Christ becoming again immaculate immortality from Holy Spirit incorruption in one family. Explain this to a child and have them explain it to an adult. Maybe the adult will listen to the child.
Peace always,
Stephen
The logical pen of the Holy Family One God in being
I always enjoy reading your responses. You have childlike faith….and it’s beautiful! And when I say childlike faith, I’m not saying you think like a child, all I’m saying is, you approach everything with an innocence, and it’s beautiful!
So true, EarthsStudent and you helped me figure this out too.
Someone once said if it can be presented so that even a child can understand it then you know that it is true.
Rest assured, be able to tell the priest, the popes the preachers the Holy Spirit is the family of God and know the mother of God is truly our mother and a God pre-existing together with the father and the son in one holy family.
The whole holy family was crucified, conceived in Jesus through the new eve Mary for Her Son for the New Adam becoming the Christ in all mankind becoming again One Holy Spirit Family One God in being
Awwwwww…look at that photo. I wish photographs would move like they do in Harry Potter, I would have loved to have seen Mary’s face as she’s being crowned. She would look so happy!
Edit: Sorry, painting. It’s a painting LOL! But still….that’s beautiful!
Honestly…wouldn’t it be cool if life looked like a painting? Cause it would be a painting but in 3D….so you would have depth and angles. I personally would like to see like what God sees, not through a 3rd Dimensional entity like us, but through spirit. I remember reading somewhere that there are 2 things that happen to a spirit when they die. When they accumulate a lot of Karma, the spirit feels shame and the light of their spirit is not very bright. But when Karma has been repaid, the spirit has varying degrees of luminessence. I think it would be a beautiful sight to behold honestly.
The Spirit never dies, just the flesh is reborn, becomes the image of The Spirit Father manifesting through immortal life for the created soul, becoming again, I believe.
“Our hearts have been set in motion. For somethin′ more, for somethin’ more Than we could ever imagine There′s so much more, there’s so much more.
Breathing air we have never breathed. We′ll see colors we′ve never seen. Every sound like a symphony. Rising up as the angels sing. The arms of grace are open wide. The face of love before our eyes. Where every tear will disappear. Heaven is real.” The Afters
As for being punished for committing sins the gravity of which you didn’t understand, St. Paul wrote somewhere that God’s laws are written in everybody’s heart. Even if you never heard of the Ten Commandments, you would know in your heart that murder is wrong. Not every sin is grievous, but you don’t need revelation to know that some things are seriously wrong.
I think the 10 Commandments are brilliant. I’m trying my best to follow them, even though I’m not very good at it. I don’t believe in sin, but I have found that when you live the Commandments you tend to live a fuller life. The Laws in the United States came from the 10 Commandments. I’ve said this once and I’ll say it again, I don’t believe in breaking the Law. You have to have some sort of Order, otherwise we’d just be extinct eventually, that or severely traumatized.
I just don’t believe that God is the one who punishes you, it’s you who punishes you. This has nothing to do with God, cause only God creates good things and sees only the good in everything. Karma was made to keep the balance on this plane of existence. There will always be bad in the 3rd Dimension, but at the same time there will always be good, because according to duality (or what some might say, Taoism) Good and Bad cannot exist without both being present. The only Dimension not affected by this is the 12th Dimension, but from the 11th on down, good and bad will exist. I try to go into every situation with the goal being “What can I learn from this?” I’m learning every single day, just like everyone else. Life was made to be lived, and if Catholicism helps you live your best life, than be Catholic. It helps a lot of people, and I refuse to argue that it can’t help somebody. Only certain things, such as the 10 Commandments have always helped me, but I will not be religious. Instead I will continue to connect the dots of all religions, and learn from all the Ascended Masters (which includes Jesus Christ).
OMNiLogically, The God from the Faith of Abraham becomes again from two natures becoming through Mary for Jesus becoming again in One Family.
For from him and through him and for him are all things. In him be the glory forever! Amen.
And what the Popes and the Preachers and the Religious and Spiritual do not logically understand is that rationally the God from the Faith of Abraham becomes again through two natures for all in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.
And through all generalizations, The Christ is logically much more than Jesus. The Christ is the spiritual and flesh Marriage Mary and Jesus in union as One in being for all in One Body from two natures from the spirit incorruption in The New Adam through the immaculate immortal life in the New Eve becoming One Body through the Chrsit in all mankind becoming again in all creation One God, One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.
Logically the 12th Dimension is Both Natures fulfilled becoming again One Family, from the Faith of Abraham becoming for all Catholics, all understanding logically, The Mind of God becoming again in all.
Becoming is from the failed creation of good and evil, loving or not loving becoming again loving only and loving with only the most love. Choice becomes fulfilled in loving only and only loving with the most love through two natures, from the spirit through the life becoming fulfilled creation undefiled through both natures, from the spirit through the life becoming for One Body through the Christ becoming again in all One God.
Peace always,
Stephen, The Logical Pen of The Holy Family One God in being
Your words have such a loving aura to them. You’re wonderful! Just delightful! I wish there was a person like you over here. Please publish a book, cause I want to read what your brilliant mind has to say.
One mind, becomes transformed for failed creation becoming through the life glorified from the spirit becoming incorruption becoming again transfigured for all in One Family, OMNiLogically, i believe.
Your mind is my mind is God’s mind is all minds becoming unfailing through Mary from Jesus becoming The Christ in all mankind becoming again through both natures in all creation One Family of God in being, undefiled through all generalizations.
The Autonomy of the Power of The Holy Spirit is understanding the Mind of God as Catholic allowing all to stand self righteous and justified before The Family of God to become again for all creation in One God, One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, I believe.
God loves each and every one of his Creation. He would never create anything that would end up being tormented for an eternity. He just wouldn’t. If God created Hell, and Hell is a bad place, this would mean (in a logical sense) that God has the ability to create junk, and it just isn’t true. See, with your belief system, it’s so easy to blame God for all the injustice in the world. Because, if God really was just, he’d be helping people, he’d be helping REALLY GOOD PEOPLE! But no, He sits back and allows this chaos to happen. God might intervene sometimes, but most of the time he just allows bad things to happen. This is why the Karma system is better, because it no longer makes God responsible, it makes you responsible. The reason why we have so much injustice in our world is because of us (and when I say us, I’m not just referring to you or me, I’m referring to every hueman in existence). We are the reason why we have wars, we are the reason why we have famine, we are the reason why abortion exists, we are the reason for all the discord that is going on right now, it’s ultimately the hueman races fault. If we go with the logic that we are all Gods and Goddesses, it makes perfect sense why bad things exist on this dimension. And, part of the reason is, the 7 families who run the system on Earth structured life in this way so we’d be creating what it is these elite families want. These elite families want to divide us. They want you to stroke your ego. They want you to watch these movies that promote stereotypes. They want you to have a dysfunctional family. Because they know that you are a Goddess and if they can sell you lies by feeding you half-truthful information, they can use your power that was given to you from the Most High God to create what they want created. There’s a Law in the Universe that is called the Law of One, which means, we are One with everything and everything is One with us. We are all connected by basically an invisible thread, and so, the more these 7 families can make you buy into their agenda, the easier it is to manipulate you. These 7 families make a great deal of money when we’re at war with another nation. These 7 families make billions when crimes are committed. And the sad part is, these 7 families could care less about us. As long as they’re able to make their money, they’re not going to care if 200 people get killed in the process. The way they look at it is, it’s the cost of doing business. And again, according to your belief system, this is a grave injustice, but yet I don’t see your God getting rid of these 7 families, and really it wasn’t your God that got rid of them, it was the U.S. Military. You know, you can poke fun at my beliefs all you want, but at least with my beliefs something is actually being done about it. Karma can get repaid in all sorts of different ways, and sometimes when someone does something bad, karma will bite them in the a** eventually. It might not always happen immediately, but some way or another, it’ll come back to bite them. But see, my God has a supernatural system in place for that. But I know Catholics/Christians don’t believe in Karma, so the only real thing you have in place is when someone dies. It’s only when someone dies when they get judged for all the good and bad they did in the world. It’s just sad that the good people on this planet have to wait that long in order for something to be done about it. Yeah, we have Laws, but we both know that that system is extremely flawed. I’d love for you to explain to me how Jeffrey Epstein was able to get away with sex trafficking and sacrificing children to Molech on his island, cause those poor people are still waiting for the day when justice will be served. Your God allowed that terrible horrible thing to happen…..I mean, your God allowed child sacrifice to a demon….and those poor women and children have to try to live their lives down here. What kind of God allows that to happen? Cause the God of the Old Testament wouldn’t have allowed something like that go on for very long…..so why should we have to deal with it today? One of the reasons why I left Catholicism is because, there is no good or even logical explanation as to why bad things happen to really good people. And it was only when I left Catholicism is when I figured out the answer to that question. I disagree with the answer, but I know the answer. But most people aren’t ready to find out what that answer is. God created logic for things to make sense, and your God makes no sense whatsoever.
Ok, I give…I guess I’ll read what this person, who I know absolutely nothing about, talk about evil.
Interesting…I don’t think this Maria Valtorta knows that there’s a banner of Lucifer under the Vatican hanging in a room. In fact, I’m pretty sure it’s on their website, last time I checked. I’ll have to see if I can pull it up. They also have pictures of different Gods in different rooms in the Vatican as well. But yeah…they have a picture of Lucifer on a red banner hanging below the Vatican. They’re just trying to avoid Karma, but anyone can see how messed up something like that is. They don’t need the Pope to tell them that that’s messed up.
Perfect but yet allows injustice to just freely go on every single day. Sad that this perfect God can’t be a voice for the voiceless. I mean the fact that millions of babies are dying every year due to abortion is a HUGE injustice, but yet, in some states it’s still ok to take the life of an innocent. Although…God did kill the firstborn in Egypt, which the problem wasn’t with the firstborn, it was with a quarrel that Moses had with the Pharoah. So maybe His way of thinking is, maybe the children who die make up for all the bad that happens on Earth everyday. Who knows? But the fact that God allows that to happen is absolutely terrible. The most innocent of our species, a modern genocide, but nope, God just sits there and allows it to happen. I guess that’s the part of his perfection that I’ll never understand, nor do I really want to.
God sure is taking his sweet time. I can’t wait for this to happen, cause this Earth is something else….
This is what I’ve been trying to say…that God sees only the good that happens, never the bad. Only a lot of good can come from something that is bad, which is why bad has to happen. It’s all about the dualistic nature of Earth. You have to have bad in order for a greater good to come out of it. This makes more sense than a just God that just allows bad to happen, because God isn’t stopping the bad from happening….
I never said God caused it to happen, but I could’ve really used God that day. Cause after he assaulted me (and he did this on several different occasions, it wasn’t just 1 time and that’s it, he did this several different times). But, after he assaulted me again, I went inside my room, was on the floor, in the fetal position and I was on the phone with the cops. It was hard for me to even talk because I was in a state of shock. I could’ve really used some divine intervention that day. And the sad part is, everyone in my family basically told me, when I told them what happened, they basically said “He probably had a good reason for doing that.” How do you justify hitting someone who was on medication for a mental disorder? And then, before he was going to get arrested, I stopped the cops from arresting him and said to let him go. I had mercy on him….and to this day, he is still a thorn at my side. I think he does have a mental disorder, but him and everyone around him seem to think what he did was normal. We live in a very unjust world, and your God is nowhere to be found. So much for justice….
Jesus during his time was a rebel. A true warrior of truth. He stood up for his beliefs and there were times where he was the only one. I’m in a similar boat. I’m constantly standing up for my beliefs and I’m the only one standing usually. But,I don’t trust people very easily, cause after questioning every single thing I’ve learned in this life (and I don’t just mean sitting there and thinking, I mean really putting what was taught to me on trial and really challenging what it is I believed in), you honestly can’t trust anyone is what it boils down to. I don’t even trust The Bible, cause it was written by man, and each book was written according to the culture at the time, and that person’s beliefs, and their ways. There are a few things I take away from The Bible like the 10 Commandments, but again, it was written by man. And after what I’ve been through, mankind has a sickness. People think that dividing people is normal, that their beliefs are somehow better than someone else’s. It’s really quite sad. No one wants to get along, no one wants to show respect, life is literally one big simulated game. Even the love on this planet is manufactured, cause the moment you wake up and realize that this reality is a simulation, it’s no wonder that most people are conditionally loving. Everything is a simulation, and the truly sad part is, it has to be this way. Otherwise we would never learn.
The fall always starts on a turn, and it never hurts while we’re in the air, but we always make a big impact.
What Maria Valtorta is logically saying is:
Created from the father bitten by the tree of knowledge and banished from the tree of life out of the garden Adam and Eve and the fall only originally created love through failed choice to love or to not love becoming through The New Eve Mary in Virgin Birth for the New Adam in Jesus becoming through the Christ the most wholesome body for all mankind becoming in all creation, through two nature’s loving only and loving with only the most love in becoming again for all one Holy Spirit family one God in being, I believe.
Maria would be glad to know her literal writing is being logically derived from the mind of God becoming again
Jesus is virgin birthed through the immaculate flesh conceived from the powers of the Holy Spirit, family, becoming the Christ for two natures, immortal and incorruptible in one body, logically, I believe faithfully
Peace always,
Stephen
The Logical pen of the Holy Spirit Family through the literal pen of Maria Valtorta, The Pen of Jesus
Here it is. See….Lucifer on a Red Banner. There’s also Medusa, Isis, and all sorts of Pagan Gods down there. So….why is it that Catholic’s can’t worship false gods, but yet underneath the Vatican has all sorts of false Gods down there?
I personally think that the Vatican knows about Karma, so to get away with their agenda by literally exposing the truth to the masses. What about the audience chamber? Why does their audience chamber look like the head of a snake? There’s no such thing as coincidence or luck, there’s a reason why their audience chamber looks like that. Since Catholicism dislikes the serpent in the Garden of Eden, why would they put on display a snakes head as being part of the architecture? Really odd if you ask me.
The serpent imagery may also be interpreted differently in different cultural contexts. For example, in some cultures, the snake may be a symbol of fertility, life, and rebirth. However, in the context of the Bible, the serpent is a symbol of evil.
Therefore, one cannot claim that Catholicism dislikes or likes the serpent in the Garden of Eden without taking into account the complexity of the symbol.
The Catholic Church officially associates the serpent in the Garden of Eden with Satan, the deceiver of mankind, and evil. Therefore, incorporating the serpent as a positive symbol in Catholic architecture would be contrary to its core theology.
Peace to all,
Logically the Christ is what we cannot rationally grasp about the Two Nature God from the Faith of Abraham becoming again in all One God, I believe.
The Two Natures of The Christ, the New Living Sacrifice.
The New Eve, immaculate Immortal Flesh, sanctified immortal and incorrutible.
The New Adam, Virgin Born for Jesus becoming the spiritual and bodily marriage in The Two Nature Christ in all mankind.
“What is it to you if He remain alive until I return, you must follow me,” said Jesus giving proof the spirit never dies and for the flesh through death from resurrection becoming again in all One God.
Two Gods becoming in One Body becoming again all Gods in One Family, I believe.
The Tree of Knowledge created love through choice becoming to know the Mind of God causing separation from the Tree of Life, I believe. The logical “Fruits” from incorruptible spirit knowledge through immaculate immortal life become from Sacrifice through Penance in the New Fruit from the New Eve through The New Adam becoming the New Living Sacrifice for both natures Spirit and Life in One Body, One Fruit united for all in union as One in being through the Christ becoming again in all Creation One God, One Family, I believe.
Earthsstudent, can you please tell us some more about the picture? When I open it, a lot of the text is cut off. Also, it looks to me like a painting rather than a photo. It might be accurate, but where did the illustration come from, and what does the text say? Thank you.
Yes, I do. Since we’re asking eachother questions, I’ll ask you one, do you believe that God exists outside of space and time, and that God is all-knowing (And when I say all-knowing, I mean he knows what’s gonna happen before it happens, and he knows what happened in the past)?
