Serakan Valenai, you have understanding, and now OMNILogically, all can logically can see the Holy Family as The Holy Spirit from Three Gods, The Father, The Mother and The Son becoming again One Family in all mankind, I believe. The Catholic Church has this logic, just few see The Family of God correctly as a Family becoming again One Holy Spirt Family One God in being in all creation.
Jesus to Maria,
“Oh, the holy marriage of the soul with its God! A spiritual tie which the human eye does not see, but, if it could see it, it would see a circle of fire surrounding God and the creature, and as God’s rejoicing increases, the creature’s glory increases, a holy circle which in Heaven will be a nimbus on your glorified brows.”
not to see a house animated by a relative, and to behold the dwelling of a friend devoid of his presence)-certain forms of despoliation endured with resignation have the value of a martyrdom, Maria; remember this. They have this value, as does the martyrdom of a life offered for the coming of my Kingdom into hearts, of the fevers and illnesses endured so that the fevers of souls and the illnesses of spirits will ebb.
"And both forms of martyrdom will receive the reward for martyrdom: the purple stole of those who have come to Me by way of a great tribulation, a procession of fire which will follow the Lamb together with the white procession of the virgins, the latter at my right, the former at my left, for these heroes of the spirit are truly the children of my Heart, rent by a martyrdom of love, as the others are those born of Mary who most resemble the Mother and the Son of the Mother; they are the ones who lived in the role of men with the sentiments of angels: beyond flesh and blood.
"With every means of yours, with holy boldness, seek the Lord. Seek Him to make amends for former laziness. And once He has been found, never separate yourselves from Him.
"In Him is the Good that does not die. In Him is Life and Truth. If you remain in Him, you shall not perish. If you live in Him, you shall not die, you shall not know errors. Like a boat safely entering the port because its pilot knew how to steer it, you, guided by Christ, shall enter the port of Peace. I, who do not lie, tell you so.
“Never deny Me, children whom I love. Be faithful to Me, and I will give you glory.”
I didn’t say that God’s attributes aren’t limitless, but rather I said that while God’s mercy is limitless, humans have free will, and if they choose to reject God’s mercy, then He leaves them free to do so.
Hell exists, but reincarnated souls do not, as explained by St. Paul the apostle in The Notebooks: 1944 (pp. 19-20).
You must be referring to the February 22, 2025 press release from the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith (DDF) regarding Maria Valtorta’s writings, where they said, “It should be reiterated that alleged “visions”, “revelations,” and “messages” contained in the writings of Maria Valtorta—or, in any case, attributed to them—cannot be regarded as having a supernatural origin. Rather, they should be considered simply as literary forms that the author used to narrate the life of Jesus Christ in her own way”. Any honest objective investigator wouldn’t and shouldn’t automatically take their word for it, especially when they failed to give any indication of whether they reviewed the proof in support of her writings having a supernatural origin. My response to the DDF’s decision mirrors that of those given by the Maria Valtorta’s Readers’ Group, as expressed in the following article: Response to the Vatican’s 2025 Press Release on Maria Valtorta. See excerpts below.
The February 22, 2025, press release from the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith (DDF) regarding Maria Valtorta’s writings is not part of the Ordinary Magisterium. It is a disciplinary clarification, not a formal teaching on faith or morals. It does not carry the authoritative weight of magisterial documents like encyclicals or catechetical texts. It’s fallible, and we hold that the DDF’s statement that Maria Valtorta’s work “cannot be considered of supernatural origin” is not only incorrect, but also absurd, given the overwhelming evidence of its supernatural nature. We place this erroneous judgment by the DDF in the same category as other historical mistakes made by this office:
• The erroneous declaration that Saint Padre Pio’s stigmata was “not of supernatural origin,” along with the multiple censures of him.
• The initial placement of St. Faustina Kowalska’s writings on the Index of Forbidden Books by the Holy Office, a decision later reversed with her canonization
.• The condemnation of the works of St. Thomas Aquinas on January 18, 1277, which was eventually annulled.
• Venerable Mary of Agreda’s Mystical City of God, which was examined for fourteen years, placed on the Index of Forbidden Books for three months, then vindicated by Pope Clement XI, who issued two decrees strictly prohibiting its future inclusion on the Index. In the past century, two Popes affirmed her work, even extending Apostolic Blessings to its readers and promoters—an action far removed from the earlier judgment of the Hierarchy, which had placed it on the Index.
• During the pontificate of Pope Leo XIII, the Index of Forbidden Books was revised, and approximately one thousand books were removed, highlighting the fluidity of some of these judgments.
Therefore, the Maria Valtorta Readers’ Group:
Personally believes in the supernatural origin of Maria Valtorta’s writings.
Affirms the right of other Catholics to personally believe in the supernatural origin of her writings.
Publicly acknowledges the DDF statement which says they do not consider it supernatural in origin, though we respectfully disagree with it, considering it an error.
While we disagree with the DDF’s conclusion, we still adhere to the discipline of not presenting Valtorta’s writings as if they have received approval by the Vatican as coming from a supernatural source. Where some may disagree with us is in whether we can disagree with the factual accuracy of the DDF statement. We maintain that well-informed Catholics, understanding that not all statements from the DDF are infallible, may rightfully doubt certain conclusions. If informed Catholics can present credible evidence that a statement is erroneous, they are not committing a sin by rejecting it. We do not reject the authority of the DDF, but rather we challenge the validity of the specific conclusion in this case, considering it to be an erroneous judgment.
There is compelling evidence that Maria Valtorta’s work is far more than just a novel. This evidence spans across theological, spiritual, literary, and scientific fields, as well as the immense good it has brought to countless souls. When examined with honesty, it becomes clear that the work cannot simply be attributed to the literary imaginings of a human being, particularly considering the breadth of expertise Valtorta lacked and her severely compromised physical condition at the time of writing. For further details, please refer to the following sub-chapters in our free e-book (A Summa and Encyclopedia to Maria Valtorta’s Extraordinary Work), which provide information on scientific evidence supporting Maria Valtorta’s claim of supernatural inspiration:
• Proof by Astronomy (Such as Detailed Astronomic Observations Over the Course of Hundreds of Pages in Her 1940s Visions that a Purdue University Professor of Theoretical Physics Testified Are Remarkably Consistent with Her Dating System and that She Could Not Have Predicted or Verified Without a Computer)
• Proof by Geography and Topography and Archaeology (Including Her Describing Palestine and Over 350 Geographical Locations in the Holy Land with a Level of Precision in Multiple Fields that She Could Not Possibly Have Known Without Modern Electronic Scholastic Resources or Access to an Extensive Collection of Books/Atlases in the 1940s that Eyewitnesses and Common Sense Confirm She Did Not—Nor Could Have Had—Access to and Which Itself Arguably Would Have Been Insufficient to Complete Her Work)
• Proof by its Knowledge, Depth, and Eminence in the Theological, Exegetical, Mystical, and Mariological Fields (Which Many World-Renowned Trustworthy Theologians Say Exceed Anything They Have Ever Read)
• Proof by Her Detailed, Exact, and Often Unparalleled Knowledge of the Political, Religious, Economic, Social, and Familial Situation—as Well as the Dress—of the Ancient Jewish, Samaritan, and Roman Peoples that Astound Even World-Renowned Biblical Scholars
• Proof by The Poem’s Unquestionable Expertise, Deep Knowledge, and Exhaustive Information in Such a Wide Variety of Theological and Scientific Subjects, and the Fact Almost 15,000 Handwritten Pages of Such Was Written in Only 3½ Years Amidst Her Unusually Severe Physical Condition and Illnesses and Even Though She Lacked the Learning, Resources, and Books Required to Write a Work a Tenth as Profound as This
• Proof by the Extraordinary, Unprecedented Way in Which it Was Written, Compiled, & Put Together (Such as the Fact that 166 Out of the 647 Chapters Were Written Out of Order, and She has Jesus Ministering in Over 350 Named Locations and Traveling Over 4,000 Miles in Six Different Cycles Across Palestine, and Yet Jesus and All of the Other 500+ Characters are Never in a Place Inconsistent with Either the Story Line or the Timing and Distance Necessities Required for Traveling, and There is Not One Person, Place, or Thing Out of Place)
• Proof By the Writing’s Extraordinary Purity, Holiness, Loftiness, and Eminence Among the Writings that Exist in the World
• Proof (or a Substantiating Factor) by Research that Shows that The Poem is Not Based on (or a Mere Expansion of) any Known Gospel Manuscript Standard, Version, or School of Critical Thought, Something Expected if a Work of This Magnitude, Detail, and Accuracy Had Been a Mere Human Effort
• Proof (or a Substantiating Factor) in How The Poem Resolves Many Problems in the Gospel Accounts Which Scholars Have Struggled with For Years (Including Apparent Contradictions Between the Different Gospel Accounts and Apparent Errors or Inconsistencies Within the Same Gospel Account), and How It Furthermore Corrects Certain Misunderstandings and Translation Errors that Have Been Perpetuated Throughout the Centuries
• Proof (or a Substantiating Factor) by the Fact Maria Valtorta’s Visions of Christ’s Passion Perfectly Match Detailed Findings on the Miraculous Shroud of Turin that Recent Modern Scientific Tests Have Revealed Decades After Her Writings Were Published and the Fact Her Writings Foretold Something Amazing About the Veil of Veronica Which Has Been Scientifically Proven for the First Time Decades After Her Death
• Proof (or a Substantiating Factor) by its Perfect Correspondence to the Ancient Liturgical and Patristic Tradition of the Ancient Catholic Byzantine Rite of the Church
• Proof by the Testimony of Countless Trustworthy Clerics, Authorities, Experts, Scientists, and Pious Lay Faithful and the Tremendously Good Fruits Produced in Individuals and in the Church as a Whole
Maria Valtorta never made a deal with Satan, but she did write about being spiritually attacked by him. He would tell her that she really wasn’t receiving dictations and visions from Jesus and other heavenly persons, and that people will call her crazy, and so on. I highly recommend checking out the links regarding her and her God-Authored Works in my “About Me” section on my profile.
Out of justice, even humans create prisons for those who commit wrongdoings. So, why wouldn’t God, Who is just, create Hell for those who willfully wanted and committed wrongdoings, and have no remorse?
On December 29th, 1945, in a transcript dictated to Maria Valtorta by Jesus, He explained the meaning of Satan’s name, which you can read in The Notebooks: 1945-1950 (pp. 147-149).
Right…..this Maria Valtorta must be Catholic I assume? Or Christian? Somewhere along those lines?
Actually I wasn’t but…ok….I guess you could assume that….
Well of course Maria Valtorta’s Reader’s Group is going to disagree with the DDF. It’s going to give you a biased opinion on the Church. All I know is this Maria Valtorta had visions about the holy family’s life (Mary, Joseph, and Jesus). I know she spoke about Mary’s birth which I can see being plausible.
Well…yes, in the modern age, I’m sure she did describe all of this with great precision. But, truthfully, they messed with our maps of the world. I can’t say what it is, cause most people aren’t ready to hear it, but, the Holy Land is not what it seems.
World-renowned Theologians……right. Cause if a world-renowned Theologian or Theologians think this is an amazing work, then obviously their correct right?
I’m not going to address every bit of proof, but when it comes to whether something is true or not, I’m not going to read what a Reader’s Group has to say. In fact, I’d love to know what both sides have to say about it so I can see what’s really going on. So, as far as Miss Valtorta goes, my assessment of her is neutral.
To be honest, I really don’t have much of a desire to learn more about this person. And it has nothing to do with disliking the Church or anything like that…..it just simply doesn’t interest me. If this woman’s visions help you in your Spiritual walk then more power to you. I’m not here to tell you any different, I’m just here to challenge conventional wisdom, cause I think conventional wisdom is flawed. Obviously this Maria Valtorta has had quite an effect on you, and again, that’s great! My main message is to go after what gives you joy, cause joy leads to having a purpose and everyone on this planet has a purpose.
Oh right, I forgot, the whole loving and just deal. Yeah…if God is Conditionally loving then that makes perfect sense of why He created a Hell. But an Unconditionally Loving God wouldn’t make a hell, it’d be incompatible with his nature….
Again, glad she had such an impact on you, but in all honesty I’m not going to pit what one person says against what the United States Military has to say about Satan. Sorry, but I’ll believe the U.S. Military over 1 person anyday, on most things probably.
She was a Catholic Christian. Do you think that automatically means her claims of having received dictations and visions from Jesus and other heavenly persons are false?
I don’t know what else you could’ve been referring to.
Why should Maria Valtorta Readers’ Group, myself, or anyone else take the DDF’s press release at face value, when in it they failed to explain why that’s their position, as well as indicate whether they first reviewed the proof in support of Maria Valtorta’s writings having a supernatural origin? For these reasons, any honest objective investigator wouldn’t do that.
I hope one day that you do.
Unconditional love does not equate to unconditional tolerance of harmful behavior, a lack of boundaries, or enabling toxic actions. Therefore, the idea of God creating Hell isn’t incompatible with His being loving, good, or just.
No, but I assumed as such cause Catholic Christian’s don’t believe in reincarnation. Again, something that Catholic Christians and pretty much any religion likes to put God in a box. Well….when it comes to the metaphysical, sometimes the answer isn’t always blatantly obvious. Using critical thinking and having the ability to think outside-of-the-box, it makes sense that reincarnation is indeed real. I mean, the evidence is out there. I remember looking at an old Western Photo and I remember saying “Holy cow! This cowboy looks like Hugh Grant!” I mean, this photo I saw was literally Hugh Grant (I think he’s the guy who plays Wolverine) in a cowboy outfit. But, the best evidence of there being past lives, at least in my opinion, comes from the story of a little boy. If you want me to I can relate the story to you, but for the sake of conversation, I’m not going to talk about it, unless you want to hear it.
Exactly, you don’t know, because it wasn’t DDF.
I never said Maria Valtorta’s Reader’s Group was wrong, all I said was it’s gonna be biased. And believe me, this is everywhere you go. Most things are biased, and very seldom do you ever get unbiased information. This is where your discernment and intuition comes into play, because unfortunately most information on anything is biased, and that honestly doesn’t help anyone wanting to find the truth in anything. It’s easier to go along with what someone says because throughout most peoples lives, people nowadays will just accept blindly whatever information is put in front of them. I know I’ve talked about this already, but we’ve basically have been programmed to just accept any piece of information as factual, and that’s partially because we have an education system that is severely flawed. In school, it would be foolish of you to challenge any piece of information that the school gave to you, because the way schools determine if you’ve learned anything depends upon how much of the information you are able to regurgitate. If you manage to regurgitate the information you were given, you’ll receive a passing grade. But if you put on a test any answer other than the one the school has taught you, you will get points taken off, even if the answer you gave was actually the correct one. In this life, everyone is programmed to just blindly accept what is being taught to them in school as being the truth, but believe me, because I actually did my research and I literally questioned what schools teach and schools are doing a LOT of people a major disservice. And, in some cases, schools aren’t teaching you the truth, in fact in school there’s a lot of half-truths being taught, and that’s because unfortunately, the collective has agreed that these half-truths are true and need to be taught. The only subject that hasn’t been corrupted is Math, but even then, they’re omitting pieces of information. Geometry is EXTREMELY important when it comes to architecture in the Church, because Churches were made a certain way so you can receive Spiritual downloads faster….and of course what are they doing now with Churches? They’ve modernized them. Not too long ago, there was a Church nearby me that was being rebuilt, and instead of it looking like a Church, it looks like a dang house. And Catholics would say “Well, it is! It’s the house of God.” But they’re doing away with the older Architecture…..and that’s a shame because again, Church’s were originally supposed to help you get into alignment through what’s called Sacred Geometry. So yes, Math may have not have been corrupted like the other subjects in school, but let’s not talk about Sacred Geometry. Schools are just indoctrination centers anymore, cause it’s a bunch of half-truths. Like I said, Math wasn’t corrupted, but it’s kind of hard to corrupt Math. 2+2 is always going to equal 4. You can’t sell a lie when it comes to Math. But boy did they sell a lot of lies in the other subjects…..
Look, if her visions helped you in your Spiritual walk, more power to you. I will never say to anyone “Don’t believe in someone who claims to have visions of Jesus, Mary, or anyone else from The Bible.” And I’m sure she’s being truthful, but I was born into a family that was Catholic, and very strictly Catholic. I know more about the Catholic Church than any other religion, mostly because it was the one my family believes. And, when it comes down to it, I just want the truth. If the truth is Catholicism (which from what I’ve researched it’s not) then I’ll be a Catholic for the rest of my life. If it’s Buddhism, I’ll believe in Buddha. It really doesn’t matter to me what it is, but it’s got to be truthful. And, in all honesty, I’m pretty sure I’ve found the truth. I’ve said this before, but I’ll say it again, there are certain Spiritual concepts that anyone can test. I’ve tested a bunch of Spiritual concepts and I have proof that if you tested the same things that I have tested, you’ll end up with a similar result. It’s called Spirit Science, and most people can test what it is I talk about and arrive at a similar conclusion. This is why I’m 95% sure I’m onto something, just because everyone else who have tested what I tested have told me “Wow, I didn’t know huemans were able to do that.” So, I’m pretty sure what I believe in is true.
If God is Unconditionally Loving, then there’s no way he is unconditionally tolerant. When I say God is Unconditionally Loving, I mean it in every sense of the word. Tolerance is what huemans do, huemans tolerate people, but God doesn’t do the whole tolerance thing. He loves you literally for just being yourself! He is the epitome of Uncondtional Love, he truly loves you for just being you. And yes, this goes for anyone, even people who most people deem to be evil or ugly. God see’s the whole picture, and everything that is labeled bad is just as important as anything that is labeled good, because in the grand scheme of things, evil has to exist otherwise we wouldn’t know what true good is! This is hard for most people to innerstand, but again, most people like to put God in a box.
God can only see the good in ANY SITUATION! See, people have a very linear view of things. Yes, when we make a bad choice, we feel bad or guilty because we’re naturally loving beings and we don’t want to hurt anyone including God. But when God see’s you make what you label a bad choice, God doesn’t see it like that, cause what God see’s is only the good that can come from that choice! God does not see bad, he see’s only the good things, because again God is the Source of all that is pure and good. God dwells outside of Space and Time, so He see’s everything at once. And he knows that ANY decision we make only contributes to the greater good, even if the decisions we made we view as bad, God doesn’t see that decision as a bad decision, and because he lives outside of Space and Time, and because he sees everything happening at once, he is able to see how much good can come from a bad situation. Hitler was a terrible man, and Hitler did absolutely terrible things, but because Hitler did what he did, it caused huemans to grow and evolve. And it especially helped Jewish people evolve too. Hitler killed many people of all different races and backgrounds, and because he did what he did, we have more reverance towards Jews and other races. Yes Hitler did a horrible thing, and yes he should be punished, but if you were to look at this through God’s eyes, God saw the ultimate good that came out of that horrible situation, so whenever we make mistakes or bad choices, even though it is normal for a hueman to feel bad (cause I feel bad too when I make a bad choice), God doesn’t see all the bad that came from that, cause God knows that more good usually comes out of an otherwise bad situation. God saw how huemanity came together in a very difficult time in Earth’s History. Look at what happened with Charlie Kirk! What happened was an absolute tragedy, and what happened to that man and his family was very sick and wrong, but God saw that his death would bring the world together. In fact, many people who haven’t gone to Church in forever started to go back to Church. A lot of good came from that situation. Again, what happened to Charlie Kirk I would wish on no one, not even my greatest enemy, but out of that bad situation came so much good.
God see’s the bigger picture in all of His Creation, which is why I believe reincarnation is real. He loves us so much that He is willing to give us all sorts of chances to become a better person which is why people reincarnate, cause it literally is a cosmic redo. Ok, so you made some poor decisions in your past, but you can reincarnate and try again!
So this idea that God is tolerant is bogus. God truly loves each and every single person he creates, whether it be Hitler, Jesus, Tyler Robinson, Margaret Sanger, Oprah, Mother Theresa…etc….cause each person that is created, in the grand scheme of things, helps with the bigger picture. God is not just, because He has no reason to be just, because again God see’s how our decisions effect the bigger picture and He is extremely proud of all of us.
Justice is for humans to pursue: Some interpretations suggest that justice is a moral principle that humans are called to pursue, striving for a state of righteousness that is inherently imperfect and different from the divine ideal.
Peace to all,
Logically Jesus and Mary are Gods preexisting in undefiled intelligence logic proving Them Gods from preexistence, non-created being and personal God in being from the Holy Spirit Family One God in being and are the two “New Trees,” becoming “One New Fruit” Baptized becoming One Body in the Christ for all mankind from Sacrifice through Penance forgiven becoming again for all creation in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.
OMNILogically, For from him and through her and for him are all things. In The Holy Spirit Family One God in being be the glory forever! Amen.
From the logical formulas through the Wondrous Mysteries of the Catholic Faith we become again for all creation in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, OMNILogically.
Logically God created two trees, failed, spirit and life becoming again in all through the two new “Fruits” from the two new trees, from the tree of the incorruptible spirit through the tree of the immortal immaculate life becoming “One Tree” from One “New Fruit” through One Two Nature Christ becoming in One Body becoming again One Family.
God of Justice, Jesus, Eternal Authority of The Holy Spirit is Virgin Born in the New Adam through Mary from the Immaculate Conception, God of Mercy from the Transformed Immaculate Flesh becoming immortality in all through the New Eve becoming the Body of Christ in all mankind.
“Surely you will never die,” is both the truth and a lie in the same line. The Devil is the trickster, and what a liar and becomes transformed into the image of the Father of Lies, a snake, I believe, choice is the trickster, I believe giving us the failed spirit choice of “Fruit” to love or love not causing loss of the “Fruit” to live mortally failed forever through the mortal flesh. Both Adam and Eve give up their own mortal life for the love of the other, becoming again fulfilled through His Passion.
But Jesus fulfills both natures Arked to Earth from the Power of the Holy Spirit Family One God in being through the Ark of The New Covenant for the flesh with choice becoming again loving only and loving with only the most love manifested eternally and incorruptibly from The Holy Spirit Family incorruption in The New Adam though immaculate flesh immortality from The New Eve becoming Baptized in One Two Nature Unfailing Flesh Undefiled Spirit and Life Body for the Christ in all mankind through two natures fulfilled from The New Adam and New Eve Confirmed natures from Sacrifice through Penance from the Priests Words of Absolution in Confession becoming forgiven and in Communion with Him becoming again in all creation One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.
Jesus said, “What is it to you if he remain alive until I return, You must follow me.”
We will never die of The Spirit becoming through the flesh becoming again through both natures, One God in being a Family again.
Hidden is the logical truth becoming again from both natures in One Holy Family, I believe.
The Life “Fruit” is from the tree of Life, Eve. The Spirit “Fruit” is from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, Adam.
Here is the example from The Vatican document, Mater Populi Fidelis , issued by the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith (DFF) with the approval of Pope Leo XIV, stresses that Jesus alone provides the means to redemption, and Mary herself must be recognized as His disciple. The document states:
Given the necessity of explaining Mary’s subordinate role to Christ in the work of Redemption, it would not be appropriate to use the title “Co-redemptrix” to define Mary’s cooperation. This title risks obscuring Christ’s unique salvific mediation and can therefore create confusion and an imbalance in the harmony of the truths of the Christian faith, for “there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved” (Acts 4:12).
What the Vatican does not understand is the Logic of the Mind of God becoming again in all creation, One Family.
The Vatican states, “Mary’s incomparable greatness lies in what she has received and in her trusting readiness to allow herself to be overtaken by the Spirit. When we strive to attribute active roles to her that are parallel to those of Christ, we move away from the incomparable beauty that is uniquely hers.”
To me, rationally,logically and faithfully, Mary is the Christ together with Jesus the Christ, both Christs, One Flesh Christ and One Spirit Christ becoming One Body of Christ, “One Fruit.” One Sacrifice becoming again in all creation One God, One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, OMNILogicalGod.Com
The Christ’s work is through Mary for Jesus becoming the Christ in all mankind. We logically can see clearly that the Vatican does not properly understand The Christ becoming again in all creation One Holy Spirit Family One God in being. The Vatican also cannot see logically the Holy Spirit as The Family of God becoming again in all creation One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.
Logically the “New Fruit” is both trees fulfilled becoming from the incorruptible Spirit through the immaculately immortal life becoming in One Body in the Christ from Sacrifice through Penance from Confession in hearing the Words of Absolution becoming forgiven in all through both natures, spirit and life becoming again in all creation One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.
The “New Fruit” is the Host, transformation becoming immortality glorification becoming incorruption transfiguration becoming again through transformed immaculately immortal flesh from The Holy Spirit Family incorruption in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.
Thanks EarthsStudent, but I have never written a poem.
Gods become alive from The Powers of the Universe,
Glorification is from Sanctified Rebirth,
From Failed both natures unite all Sons and Daughters fulfilled,
Salvation Becoming again for all in One Family Creation Heaven and Earth.
It’s not out of bias that Maria Valtorta Readers’ Group, including myself, do not take the DDF’s press release at face value, because in it they failed to explain why they have taken the position that they have, as well as indicate whether they even first reviewed the proof in support of Maria Valtorta’s writings having a supernatural origin. For these reasons, any honest objective investigator would do the same.
You believe that unconditional love, in part, involves no consequences or accountability, which is why you said that God is unconditionally loving and thus couldn’t have created Hell, but it doesn’t involve that. You can Google what “unconditional love” means and see for yourself.
If God is not just, and He’s proud of our decisions, even our evil, or wrong ones, then there’s no need for any of us to keep reincarnating until we have made the “good” or “right” decisions. This is just one of many reasons why those beliefs of yours are problematic.
A long time ago I was told about Maria Valtorta and how the Catholic Church didn’t officiate her visions. But again, I dunno enough about Maria Valtorta to know exactly what’s going on with her, nor does her findings resonate with me. She’s on a different soul path than me, that’s all there is to it.
Google just like everything else in this life has been corrupted by a system that is designed for the downfall of the individual. I do not get my information from Google, I get my information from the United States Military, particularly the White Hats. If I have to get information from Google, I’m constantly having to use my intuition and discernment to filter through the lies…. Google is the enemy here….and unless you know how to extract the truth from the enemy, you will continue to fall for lies and half-truths.
Well…with one’s Free Will, one can stay in this Dimension or stay in a lower Dimension. There’s nothing saying you have to go to a higher Dimension. But in order to get to a higher Dimension, you will have to match the vibration of the Dimension you wish to go to. It’s worth going to a higher Dimension, because the higher you go, the happier and more at peace you will be.
The reason why my beliefs are problematic is because, they don’t fit the status quo. And it never will fit the status quo, cause it’s not supposed to. Just like you, I have Free Will as well, and I refuse to be a part of any religion, or any organization for that matter. I want to be able to think for myself.
I was once in your shoes. I thought Catholicism was the truth, and for 16 years of my life I was Catholic. But then I was invited to a military group. Me and about 4,000 other normal, average, everyday citizens were invited into this group. And this group told us every single thing they have hidden from the general public. At first, I was skeptical, cause they were saying a lot of things that really didn’t make sense. And the Military told us at the very beginning “What we are about to tell you will trigger you! Remember, what you are about to see is everything you are not being told. It’s not going to make sense at first, but as we continue to reveal things to you, eventually you’ll be able to innerstand it better. Something we want to stress to you is, we are not forcing you to look or even agree to any of this. We innerstand that what we’re going to show you will be disturbing at times. You are free to leave at any point in time, and if you want to come back to the group you can. Our hope is that each and every one of you will stay, because the White Hat part of the military has decided to no longer be silent on the kinds of things we’ve hidden from the public.”
I am grateful for the White Hat part of the United States Military, because they taught me how to think. The United States Military taught every single one of us how to think, how to be open-minded, how to think outside-of-the-box, and how to have an open heart.
During the middle of this group, they told us “We want you guys to get this information out to the public.” And of course I chuckled a little bit and said “And what makes you think that people are going to honestly believe us? People are going to look at us like we’re out of our minds.” And the Military said “We innerstand. And at one point, we’re going to tell the entire world everything we have taught you. At some point in the future, people will have to make a choice. Most people will exit the 3rd Dimension and go to the 5th. However, a handful of people will be left in the 3rd Dimension. You are to tell as many people as you can. If they laugh at you and call you names, it’s because they’re not ready. But if they’re curious about some of the things you talk about, then you can talk more with them. The military right now is too busy getting rid of these psychopathic families who have run Earth for Milleniums, and the puppets associated with these families. It is important for you to tell the public about what you learn here.”
Now whether or not you believe me, personally, I don’t care. One thing we were told from the Military was, at the end of the day we are not responsible for other people. Yes, we are to tell people what it is we know, but at the end of the day the only person you are responsible for is yourself. Because everyone has Free Will, everyone has to decide for themselves what is true and what isn’t true. We cannot force people to believe in anything, all we can do is tell them. It’s everyone’s responsibility to decide for themselves what is true and what isn’t.
And, just so we’re clear here, I have nothing to gain by telling you what it is I know. I’m not being paid to talk about this, I don’t get some special award by talking about this. I’ve lost my family by talking about this, and I lost all but 1 friend since I have talked about this. I’ve lost literally everything by talking about this, so believe me Soul, I have nothing more to lose.
The only way you’re going to innerstand me is if your mind is open enough to innerstand what it is I’m saying. Yes, to the normal everyday person, my beliefs are most definitely problematic, but that’s also because unless you can see the bigger picture and are open to different possibilities, my beliefs will always remain problematic.
OMNiLogic is truth, logic based on logic intrinsic because if I can get anybody to believe it, I can get anybody to believe it, I believe.
Faithfully, the Catholic Church can say anything pertaining to the Moses Seat Authority and it becomes bound by the Moses Seat, and in all generalizations.
Logically born again and saved is easier to understand, becoming reborn through The New Eve becoming saved from the New Adam becoming for the Christ in all mankind becoming again One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.
Catholicism is hard to understand seeing the Holy Spirit as a person logically. And this leaves no room in a Trinity for the Mother of God together with the Father and the Son for The Holy Family. The Holy Family pre-existed as a Holy Spirit from Three Powers, I believe.
The logical truth becomes to love only becoming again loving only with only the most love, I believe.
What does “the Catholic Church didn’t officiate her visions” mean?
You can’t reasonably assert both “God is Unconditionally Loving in every sense of the word” and “God doesn’t hold people accountable”, because holding people accountable is part of being unconditionally loving.
If God is not just, and He’s proud of our decisions, even our evil or wrong ones, then there’s no need for any of us to keep reincarnating until we have made the “good” or “right” decisions. You need to address this flaw in your belief.
To me, rationally, the insolvable mystery is that God wants flesh and love in a body unfailing forever for all becoming again One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, i believe.
From the logical formulas through the Wondrous Mysteries of The Catholic Faith, He does this from three powers of creation through two natures becoming for One Body becoming again in all creation filfilled in One Family, I believe.
They haven’t put an impramateur to it (Forgive me, that’s one word I don’t know how to spell).
We live in a world where most people are conditionally loving. Unconditional Love among huemans, if we’re being real here, is hard to find. Even people who practice it struggle, but that’s because again we live in a conditionally loving world.
Look…God isn’t like huemans. As a hueman, we need justice. The whole reason justice exists to begin with is number 1, because we live in a Dimension that is structured for learning, some souls that incarnate down here need to innerstand the severity of their actions. It’s part of the learning process down here. I never, not even once said, that justice is a bad thing. Justice just like everything else in this life exists to serve huemans. Plus we can’t have murderers just being able to kill just anyone.
What I’m trying to say is, whether people like it or not, evil has to exist for good to exist. Earth runs on the concept of duality: Good vs. Bad, Dark vs. Light, Angels vs. Fallen Angels. The main reason why people incarnate/reincarnate here is, if you learn the lessons you need to, here on Earth, when you die it’ll be like a springboard to a higher Dimension. Most souls come to Earth, because the lessons on Earth are so numerous and so hard, that once you shed this meat suit, depending on how much Karma you’ve accumulated, will determine which Dimension you go to or if you have to reincarnate cause there are certain lessons you still need to learn.
Everything that exists in the 3rd Dimension exists to help us grow in love. Earth is a school, and we are its students. When you incarnated/reincarnated down here, you did so with a goal in mind. A lot of people who incarnate/reincarnate down here do so with the goal being to get to a higher Dimension, but that’s not always the case. Some souls incarnate down here just to be able to experience what its like to garden. Others come down here, whose souls are alien in nature, to figure out certain concepts so when their meat suits die they can go back to their home planet and report their discoveries to their particular alien race. And then you have people like me who volunteered to help out the hueman race (although, the people down here don’t want my help, which again is fine. Again, I’m not responsible for anyone’s soul down here, I’m just the messenger).
To address your statement, everyone who incarnates/reincarnates down here, incarnates/reincarnates down here with a goal in mind. And everyone’s reasons are different. Every decision, whether it be good or bad, serves a higher purpose. Sometimes in order for something good to happen, you need to experience the opposite. At the end of the day, it’s all about choice. If you don’t want to learn and grow, or even do what you came down here to fulfill your goal, then you will be stuck in a time loop and you will stay down in this Dimension for a very long time till you decide you want to no longer be here and you want to go elsewhere. Cause everytime you die, depending on the amount of Karma you’ve accumulated will dictate whether or not you need to reincarnate. Most people do reincarnate, because they have lessons they have to learn yet. In order to go to a higher dimension, or to even escape the cycle of reincarnation, all or most of the Karma you accumulated on Earth when you were down here has to be repaid. And if you still have Karma that needs to be repaid, you’ll keep reincarnating till you “break the cycle.”
Basically, it boils down to this (and again, not everyone incarnates/reincarnates for the same reason…everyone is down here for a different reason, but most are down here to go to a higher dimension), but it boils down to this. Either you learn your lessons, and you go to a higher plane of existence where all the people there have learned how to be loving, kind, considerate, passionate, etc…. Or you can not learn from your mistakes and be stuck sharing a planet with people who are murderers, thieves, rapists, etc…. That’s what it boils down to.
Everyone incarnated/reincarnated down here with some sort of goal in mind. But why you came down here and what your goal is, is up to you to figure out. Only you know why you’re down here, no one else can figure that out for you. That’s why it’s important to remember who you are, why you are down here, and learn whatever it is you need to learn. I dunno about you, but I don’t wanna come back down here. I was born with a stutter, never had any friends, lost pretty much everything. And the thing of it is, I volunteered to be here. I had a great life before I decided to come down here to help others. This Earth is a cesspool. I’m not asking for anyone to innerstand me, cause most people don’t. And that’s because, most people do not know how to think….they just don’t. They don’t know how to think critically, think outside-of-the-box, and approach every subject with an open mind and an open heart. We live in a Matrix, and most people have drank the Kool-Aid.
I don’t owe anyone an explanation as to what it is I believe. You need to stop trying to innerstand me. There’s a reason why I’m part of the 2% of people who do not fit any sort of mould, because I’ve questioned every single thing I’ve been taught. Every single thing. Most people are being lied to in such a subtle way, that most people don’t even realize it. And that’s the truth….and trust me….the truth of this world is the most ugly and disgusting thing you’ll ever learn about, that is if you choose to learn.
I’m a flawed hueman and I don’t know anything, but I’m learning every single day. I’m ready to escape from this Matrix. No wonder why this planet needs volunteers, cause the people on this planet are unreal.
This topic is one that it seems most Catholics just take for granted and accept the oft repeated statements made relating to it.
“Who are we to question God?”, “God is loving precisely because God lets us choose our own fate.”, etc.
The problem is that humans are not capable of understanding the concept of eternity beyond the rudimentary. Forcing us to choose between things that we don’t/can’t understand is not even possible for many people (which is why “faith” is a “gift” from God and is necessary for true belief). Telling a person who needs to understand something before literally devoting their entire life to its practice to, “just believe it”, doesn’t work. Some of us are very literal thinkers who have difficulty with the abstract.
The idea that God, who makes the rules (and can change the rules) is all loving but will also banish most people for eternity with no recourse over something they can’t understand (ie the true gravity of their sin in relation to actual eternity as well as just the concept of eternity itself) is something a lot of people can’t accept.
In comparison to God, we have the minds of ignorant children. Even children who are of “the age of reason” and can understand rules as well as right and wrong, make wrong choices; often for which punishment is warranted.
However, imagine a child being punished for eternity with no recourse by a parent for doing something, things, etc that the parent has deemed to be wrong. That would not only be excessively harsh, it would also be irrational and troubling on the part of the parent. The punishment would not fit the crime. It would be considered abusive.
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