For the love of trodden Jesus, please read and share!
Dear EarthsStudent, it’s great that you think for yourself and question everything. There’s a saying that a little knowledge gives you pride and a lot of knowledge, humility, or “Knowledge is proud that it knows so much, wisdom is humble that it knows so little.”
I recommend you to read the Summa Theologiae from St. Thomas Aquinas: all your questions would be answered.
Also, the revelations from Bl Anne Catherine Emmerich.
God allowed this snake to enter or be in the Garden, and God knew beforehand that this snake was evil and that the snake would tempt Eve to eat of the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, and then Eve would tempt Adam into eating the fruit as well.
What kind of good father would allow his child to put his fingers in the socket just that he learns a lesson from pain? Not just pain but the expulsion from home/Paradise? Without even warning about the consequences!
The answer is:
God is Love.
Love is fruitful.
Love outflows by creating likeness.
Just like angels, we were created in the likeness of God: freedom to love.
God didn’t want robots incapable of loving back, he already had in mind the creation of animals/insects, which are just bioprograms incapable of loving.
We are not predetermined/predestined but have the will power to make free decisions.
God doesn’t knows the future through the causality principle but from seeing the whole timeline from above, because the timeline is in God.
The tree wasn’t a test. If Adam and Eve wouldn’t have sinned, they would profit from the Tree of life to live until they finished their mission on earth, then up to God in Heaven.
They became like gods (fallen dark angels) because they lost grace (mortal sin) by dissobeying the only commandment they had. That’s why they found themselves naked: striped from the light of grace that covered their nakedness.
Why wouldn’t God stop the snake: for the same reason He doesn’t stop murders, wars, etc. He respects free will, which is essential to love, even if it opens up the possibility of hatred instead of love!
Romans 8:28
And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose.
God always gets more good than evil from evil. While God does not create evil, He acts as a sovereign authority who permits it temporarily and ultimately transforms it for a higher purpose, ensuring good triumphs.
The reason that the serpent spoke was that it was possessed by Satan. The reason that it was in Paradise is that it was a good creature. Why did God allow it to be possessed? Again, by allowing free will in the fallen angels.
Read Emmerich: you’ll understand that there are certain rules in the match between God and Satan, that God accepted beforehand and thus can’t break.
Ave MarĂa purĂssima!
Is your purpose of posting this nonsense to slander the Church, and/or disrespect?
Bravo!!! you’ve accomplished both. 
+Peace be with you.
Tommy, EarthsStudent is asking good intelligent questions. His bitter ironic style just shows how much pain he is in. Be compassionate! We Catholics have answers to each one of those questions. The problem is that nobody reads St. Augustine, St. Thomas Aquinas, etc. They’ve dealt with every single one of them based on reason, natural law, science, theology.
The only problem with EarthsStudent is his pride: he doesn’t want to read someone smarter than him… maybe because he’d realize that he’s been wrong all along and that he has to change and leave all his chains to sin (especially pride, which is the pest of the smart).
Ouch! This reminds me of the time I shared a locker with a very smart kid in Junior High. I would consider this kid a friend at school (meaning we didn’t hang out outside of school, but I liked the kid). One day we were just talking while making a pit-stop at our locker in between classes and the Class President (who probably meant well) came up to me and said, “Stop picking on the nerds!” For one, I was just talking to David and two you just called him a “nerd” (he was probably the most nerdy kid I have ever known, but that doesn’t mean that you get to call my locker-partner/friend a nerd : )
And who exactly are you to judge? And to be quite frank, @EarthsStudent has posted numerous humble and sincere apologies. With that, I consider him as far more smarter, and being led by grace.
I suggest you come to Christ and the throne of God as a child, such as @EarthsStudent has displayed. I also recommend you read and begin practicing the Beatitudes.
It doesn’t require a PhD to repent and believe. No Apostles chosen by Jesus were learned or well educated to become the person they became – Apostles.
Consider this as a promise …
If you ever post on this forum another public unjust judgement against a forum member, I will flag all your post and replies as SPAM and Harassment of members.
We are all here to grow, be nourished, and share our journey together. We seek NOT to be judged by others, nor blinded by anti-Catholic rhetoric. Laity, religious, clergy, and Bishops are our brothers who share a faith and despise those whose intentions are to cause division.
First of all, I want to apologize to you. I looked back over my response to you, and this is true…I’m not very smart. I’m very dumb and at times kind of a wimp. A real man is one that is honorable and venerable, and I can see why what I said was prideful, because if you read it, it is prideful. And, I know that now.
I’m so sorry that I wrote this the way I did. I could’ve written this better, cause it’s talking down to a person, and no one is greater or lesser than anyone else. You are love incarnate AveMaria. And the last thing you should do to love is push it away, and that’s exactly what I did to you. I pushed you away, and I worded things in poor taste.
I wrote that on January 30th of this year. And even though this was written months ago, it doesn’t help that it’s here on display for everyone to look at now. I take back every ugly prideful thing I said in that message. I really do try my best not to resort to name-calling, insults, or just plain cursing, but I could use some instruction in the tact department, because I don’t have very good tact, and it shows.
So, as my promise to you, I’ll take this down. I hope you’ll forgive and we can move on and have more productive dialogue. If I respond to a post now, instead of putting in my 2 cents and starting another debate and essentially spamming posts, instead I’ve decided to put things through more of a Catholic lense when I respond. For example, there was an Adam and Eve post, and instead of outright telling what I read about that story, instead, I put myself in another Catholic’s shoes, and responded in a way that correlates and still makes sense in a Catholic way. Because like @Cade_One has said, this is a Catholic Forum. This is not a debate forum, this is not say whatever it is you want to say forum, this is for Catholics to come and discuss their religion without having to defend their faith. In other words, this is a friendly forum, and it’s centered around Catholicism and not anything else. So from now on, if I do respond to someone’s post, instead of telling them why I think and believe what I think and believe, instead I’m going to curate my response in a Catholic appropriate manner. You have my word.
The only thing left to ask is, will you forgive me? Can we start over? It’s ok if you wish not to forgive me or if you need time, or if you never want to forgive me. Just know that I’m so sorry…because I know all too well how it is to believe in something, and talk about it openly only to get shut down. I struggle with that on almost a daily basis, and no one should have to deal with that. Will you forgive me of my trespasses?
@Tommy I apologize too. I will work on my tact a little better.
Thank you all and God bliss you all.
-Jake
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I appreciate and respect those who are willing to look at their behavior in the past and realize one could have done things different or better. Setting aside our pride and ego, being open to growth, and willing to listen to the suggestions of others is a huge leap forward.
Send a Message to @Cade_One with a link to the post (you wrote) which you’d like to take down. He is the one who can make that happen, if it’s appropriate. But if your January 30th post is still there, possibly it’s been left there for a reason. Reach out to Cade and discuss your concerns with him.
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Thanks Tommy…I actually deleted the post. If you scroll up it’ll say in parenthesis (post deleted by author). Thank you. God bliss.
-Jake
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No problem! We should all ask for guidance to the Holy Spirit and follow his inspiration.
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