Might be a silly question. But just kinda curious?
I have no opinion. Cats are cool. Christianity is cool. Put them together, double cool ; )
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They are living purring machines for sure ^^
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The difference between an animal and a man is that the animal can’t understand spiritual values. The first pirinciple of spiritual life is the understanding that “I am not this body! I am pure spirit soul, inside a a temporary bag of urine, stool, blood, pus, mucous and vomit.” Cats and dogs are the same as us, pure spirit. No one can make a cat or dog in a laboratory. As long a the spirit is inside the cat, it runs around. when it leaves -------compost. Just like us. But if one can remember these things when looking at the cat with a cross - that’s progressive. We should put crosses everywhere. Whatever helps us to remember the purpose of life - to awaken the love of God that is asleep in our hearts. People who’s love of God is dormant…they get lonely …get themselves a cat of dog to love.
But God saw that everything He created was good, and Jesus Christ took on a human body. No, I am not my body, but my body is not just a bag of filth, nor is the body that Jesus said to take and eat. The body is temporary, one day to be glorified, but even now it is good, even though in need of redemption.
Peace to all,
Catholic Talk, logically is From The God from The Faith of Abraham redemption is from the spirit through the flesh fro the created souls of all mankind becoming again In One Family Body, both natures united in One God in being.
God as Jesus Eternal Priestly Authority becomes Virgin Born from souls preexisting in One Body, for all through the Christ.
The Body created becomes flesh in the Energy Mass Nature through Space and Time becoming hypo-statically united from the spirit nature manifesting power to become again in One Family Body.
Peace always,
Stephen
That’s why I shouldnot be making coments on this site. Because the scriptures that I try to follow (imperfectly) are different from the holy Bible.
All religions say that God loves all of us. But that same God puts some of us in hell. This does not mean that He stops loving us. But still He puts some of in hell. And as you write, whatever God does, He says that it is good. Therefore, putting some of us in hell is also good. Good for those souls. Why? Because suffereing causes repentence! Therefore hell is created for the purpose of redemption. God wants us to love Him, not just because He enjoys being loved…but because we cannot actually be happy unless and until we reawaken within our hearts, spontaneous feelings of love for Him.
You know the narrative as it is described in the Bible. When Adam and Eve were put out of “The Garden”…what did God say? Did He say, “I’m sending you on an all-expenses paid trip to a beautiful place”? No. He said “Now you are in trouble. I’m sending you to a place where everything is very difficult, a place where you are going to have to survive by the sweat of your brow.”
In heaven…God is not alone. He is surrounded by “the heavenly host”. He is surrounded by those who have spontanious feelings of love for Him. And they are engaged in glorifying Him and serving Him in different ways, while He sits on His throne, wearing his crown. Of course the Catholic church, although “fundmentalist” in many respects, has chosen to take God off of His throne and remove His crown, by using their own judgement and deciding that God has no throne, and no crown, and perhaps no form at all…in spite of the fact that that the trinity exists as God the Father, God the son, and God the Holy Ghost.
The Holy Ghost is the presence of God in the material creation. He is within every atom, and between every atom. And,“not a blade of grass moves except by the will of the Lord.” And, “He’s got the whole world in His hands.” But church says he has no hands. I can only feel that some priest made that decision, and everyone follows suite.
So…the hevenly host is with God, glorifiying Him with heart and soul…without bodies that grow old, diseased, and that die. And we are here in the world of birth and death. And God loves us and has put us here for our redemption. 2 + 2 = 4. We are not in heaven. the material world a place of suffering. The Garden of Eden narrative is a metaphor for describing the fact that all of us in the material creation, are rebelious souls who have been exiled from the spiritual world. And instead of cultivating love for Him, as Jesus instructed, we pray to God for making this world into a nice place. Jesus says, “cultivate love for God with all of your heart and all of your strength’”. And instead we pray to God to make this world of “mammon” a nice resort.
Which means we will not go to heaven, because our hearts are attached to material pleasures of the flesh. Mammon.
What is this material body, that is made of earth and water and so many elements? It is the place of leprosy, cancer, diabetes, maleria, colonitis, appendicitis, tonsilitis, gastritis, osteoporosis, meningitis, heart attacks, hemeroids, cateracts, macular degeneration, hip replacements, knee replacements, heart replacements, kidney replacements, foot and toe nail fungus, syphliss, ghonoreough, gastric ulcers, etc., etc. etc. These are all the benefits of having a material body. The heavenly host … they do not have material bodies…and they do not get sick and die.
So the question arises. We accept, Hindu, Christian, Jew, Muslim…that God loves all of us. Why would He place us in such a condition? Because the only way we will repent for wishing to live in separation from God, for wanting to be little indipendent gods…is to be afflicted with material miseries.
And because we all want to be God, therefore we are in endless competition with each other for that position, and cannot live without ongoing wars, slavery, mutual exploitation,…
According the the ancient Vedic literatures, there are worse planets than this earth. But this is a mild version of hell. Imagine what the residents there are going through!
So, as you say, God saw that everythin ghe created was good. Just like when a city planning commission makes parks, and roads, and schools, and zones…they also design and construct a prison house, a penal institution for the redemption of the citizens who refuse to live according to their constitutional position. This is the material world …God’s prison system…where we earn our livlihood by the sweat of our brow…even though the lives of the the residents of heaven are without tribulation.
So, no, we are not these bodies…but we have to live inside them and suffer old age, disease anad death. The body of Jesus is not like ours. Jesus does not suffer. That is another distortion of reality. Jesus can be crucified a thousand times, and still he can walk away from it all and continue to give us the good news. The idea that Jesus had to suffer so that we could be sinless, is another distortion of the truth. Jesus does not suffer. That is why even with spikes going through his hands and feet…he is so filled with love and compassion that he prays to God to forgive the perpetrators. One who is suffereing from nails through the hands and feet cannot be praying to God for the forgiveness of others. Jesus is showing, amaking a demonstration to those of little or no faith…that he is the son of God, and not subject to the rules of any church, any country, or of the miseries of the the material world. In order to prove this to the people of this world, he goes through this episode, even though he can see it in advance, by spiritual vision, …and then he walks away from it all. In this way he proves his point. We are eteranal souls. We are not these bodies. We are loooking for fulfillment in the dead temporal things of this material world, instead in loving God with all of our hearts.
Yes, “not a bag of filth” as you say. But as soon as the spirit soul leaves the body of a cat, of a dog, of a human…does anyone wish to pat and caress that body? Even Miss America. As soon as the spirit departs…does anyone want to love that body?
We are here in the material world. Like Jesus says, “in this world, but not of this world.” It is “good”. Good for our reclamation, good for our repentence. Because it is punishment for our sinful natures. That is the function of the this world, this place outside of the Garden of Eden. God didn’t evict Adam and Eve from the Garden while they were obedient. Because that is not our natural life. Only when they were rebellious.. So here we are. If the church wants to make it into something beautiful…so be it.
When Jesus says, “This is my body…take and eat.”, this has to be understood in context. Anything offerred to God becomes as good as the body of God. When the last supper is offered to Jesus, and he accepts it…now this food, which becomes scared (sacrificed) because it is offered to God…it becomes requalified with the spiritual energy of God…and anyone who eats, partakes of that offering …this is as good as taking the body of God into our own body…for our purification. Therefore everything that we eat should be first placed on our home altar as an offereing to God…not just a biscuit put on our tongue by the parish priest. …all that we cook and prepare, except the corpses of dead animals, as are enjoyed by those who delight in the consumption of flesh and blood.
This is why I should not write comments on your web site. Because my views are so much in opposition to your beliefs, which have been handed down to you by what I consider to be a dysfuntional church…the kind of church Jesus describes when he says, “I never knew you.”