The Trinity = 3 Gods

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My friend,
it is my conviction now, that you have a limited and still superficial understanding of the Godhead. The kind of arguments you bring forth are not deep, not very scripture-based. Oh yes, you pluck one scripture here, and one there, and then go by what you think the wording in the english translation mean. That is not deep, and certainly not to the standard of whole-Bible exploration that I would require.
I do not think by now, that a continuation of the interaction will be fruitful. Maybe some day you will see it, but based on experience I remain somewhat pessimistic on that. You being a member of a faithgroup whose identity you will not disclose, just shows that your anchor is not in Scripture, but with some specific faith group. So you probably will not get it.

A danish proverb goes like this: It is hard to convince a man of something, when his salary depends on him thinking otherwise. I think you are in a similar situation..

So thanks for now

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Catholic Dogma vs the Bible…

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OK, now I get it why you were asking me for the gender of Holy Spirit. You ascribe to Mary the feminine aspects of the Godhead.

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Peace to all,

Yes PDanoe, Mary is God, I believe.

Lord and God Mary, God of Transformation, Christ in the New Eve, Woman in The Word, The Body of Christ, Mary, God of Mercy, Yes, always in The

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Thinity Family of Powers as Mother of God from the Power of The Holy Spirit for The Immaculate Felsh in The New Eve, I believe.

Peace always,
Stephen

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Yes, well we all have some balancing to do in our christian walk. The protestant view of Mary has generally become low, although the reformers like Luther did revere her. The catholic view of Mary is high, she is a perfected saint in heaven, but not divine.

However, as she has been made perfect, her prayers are very effectual, and we read in Gospel of John chapter 2 about the wedding at Cana, where Jesus was not willing to do a miracle, but because of his mothers request he did it anyway. This is the biblical model for our marian prayers. We ask Mary to pray for us, recognizing that she is able to get God to do even that which he is not really in the mood for.

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:rofl:That’s just not true.

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Mary, too, is DEAD.
The resurrection awaits!

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Mary in the New Eve bypassed death for her glorious assumption, bypassing death for her becoming again glorified, and transfigured resurrection, logically I believe.

Peace Always,
Stephen

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Make believe- not in ANY Bible…

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I appreciate your going to the scriptures- but Revelation is a symbolic vision- of which are many interpretations. It does not support the "immortal soul’- but reveal (in a symbolic way) God’s Day of Resurrection- which would not take place if souls were immortal…

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Peadce to all,

True the soul is immortal.

Of the two natures spirit and life, the soul is immortal, never dying but flesh Baptized is able to become from death through resurrection becoming from Sacrifie through Penance forgiven becoming again in all immotally flesh glorified and incorruptibly Holy Spirit transfigured through both natures in One Body, in One Holy Family One God in being

Peace always,
Stephen

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Adam and Eve brought sin and death- and it was SATAN who told Eve she would NOT die!

Gen 2:7- And Jehovah God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living *

soul

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Peace to all,

Logically what happened in the garden? I know in all generalizations, rationally, faithfilly, I believe.

Eve was all spirit and life in One Body with Adam Authotity separated by God, from the Rib, Greek for equally of half. Eve was told by Adam and Adam was told by God not to eat of the fruit of they will surely die.

Eve brought spirit and life for the love of Adam even if it meant her death, and Adam’s choice becomes to live alone forever without the love of Eve or fail his own authority and die with the love of a dying also Eve. Through choice here of each, and we all would heve done the same thing, Here we see love logically created in the Garden of Eden, I believe.

And so true never dies only of the flesh Nature dies becomes again through the always alive never dying spirit.

Even the Serpant said, surly you will not die, both the truth and lie, in the same line, how can this be?

Because the spirit is immortal but the flesh is mortal. The spirit lives for the flesh to become from death through resurrection again in both natures through the Christ.

The God of Abraham is the Two Nature God becoming again all spirit and Life in One Body One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, I believe.

Peace always,
Stephen

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Peace to all,

The Parable of “I believe.” by Stephen Andrew

  • Theophilus of Antioch (c. 180 CE): He is the first to use the Greek word Trias (from which “Trinity” is derived) when referring to God, his Word (Logos), and his Wisdom (Sophia).
  • Tertullian (c. 200 CE): He coined the Latin term Trinitas and explicitly defined the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as distinct persons (personae) who share one substance (substantia). His work was a defense against modalism, the belief that the Father, Son, and Spirit are merely different modes or roles of one God.
  • Origen of Alexandria (c. 250 CE): He is known for distinguishing between the three hypostases (individual realities) of the Godhead. While his theology influenced later development, some of his ideas were seen as subordinating the Son to the Father.
  • Distinguishing ousia and hypostasis
    Basil and the other Cappadocian Fathers clarified the theological vocabulary of the Trinity by differentiating between two Greek terms:
  • Ousia (οὐσία): Refers to the singular divine essence or substance that is common to the Father, Son, and Mother in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being..
  • Hypostasis (ὑπόστασις): Refers to the three distinct “persons” or individual realities—the Father, the Son, and the Mother in One Holy Spirit Family—who share the one divine ousia Body of God.
    Analogy for clarification
    Basil used an analogy to explain this complex relationship:
  • Ousia is like the “genus,” or the shared substance of all humans (humanity).
  • Hypostasis is like the “particular man,” such as Peter, Andrew, or John, who each individually partake in the essence of humanity.
    Context of the distinction
    This crucial distinction was a central achievement of the Cappadocian Fathers and helped resolve the Trinitarian debates of the 4th century, particularly the Arian controversy. It allowed orthodox theology to confess a single God without collapsing the three “persons” into one (modalism) or dividing them into three separate gods (tritheism).

Peace to all,

Romans 11:36 is a declaration that “from him and through him and for him are all things. To him be glory forever. Amen” (NIV). The verse is understood as a doxology, meaning a hymn of praise to God, emphasizing His absolute sovereignty as the origin, sustainer, and ultimate purpose of everything. It highlights that God is the source of all existence, that all things depend on His power for their being, and that everything ultimately exists for His honor and glory.

From Him Through Him and for Him are all things, are the first part of Romans 11:36 defining logically 3 persons in being, logically, I believe.
“To him be glory forever. Amen” is reference to the Combined Family of Gods from three Personal Gods in being always together in One Family of God, I believe.

Key Aspects of Romans 11:36

  • “From him”: The Logical Father

This phrase signifies that God The Father is the origin and creator of all things. Everything that exists ultimately came from Him.

  • “Through him”: The Logical Mother

This indicates that God the Mother is the sustainer transforming flesh immortal from Baptism becoming through The New Eve into the Catholic Church. All things live and exist transformed sanctified through Her power and active presence in the universe, through the Immaculate Conception for The Virgin birth of The Christ becoming in all mankind through the New Adam in Spirit incorruption for all, I believe.

  • “For him”: The Logical Son

This signifies that all things have been created for Jesus through the New Adam becoming The Christ through The Host, The Body , Blood, Soul and Divinity of God The Holy Family One God in being alive in all mankind becoming in all re-Sanctified and Confirmed and in Communion with the Holy Family from Sacrifice through Penance forgiven for all mankind becoming again imortally glorified and incoruptibly transfigured in all One Family, I believe, all are directed for God’s ultimate purposes and glory and transfiguration in One Family, I believe.

  • “To him be glory forever. Amen”: The Logical Holy Family One God in being, I believe.

This is the concluding statement of praise, asserting that all honor and glory belong to God eternally. It is a recognition of God’s infinite greatness and the desire to make Him the center of all lives In Him we all creation becomes again in all One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, I believe.

To me The Trinity is the Family of God from three divine personal Gods in being, I believe.

OMNILogical World Peace unites all as One in being from the common denominator of all faiths which is The Spirit and through the Spirit for the life becoming through the two natures of The One God in being becoming again in all One Family, I believe.

OMNILogically Faith saves from the spirit nature out of the Bosom of Abraham through the soul of Jesus conceived by the Powers of the Holy Family through the Christ becoming in the flesh of all mankind becoming again for all mankind and angels and saints, all creation in One Divine Spirit Family One God in being, I believe.

Origen of Alexandria is known for distinguishing between the three hypostases (individual realities) of the Godhead. This makes logical since including the Mother as One Family One God in being a Holy Spirit Family, I believe.

Faithfully there is no denial in what the Church says bound by the Moses Seat, but logically, Mary is God together with the Father and the Son preexisting in undeflied logical intelligence before creation was ever created was even created making them Gods from preexistance and uncreated Personal Gods in being One Holy Family One Holy Spirit Body becoming again in all through two natures from The incorruptible Holy Spirit through the Immaculate Flesh of Tghe New Eve for Jesus in The New Adam becoming the Christ in all mankind, spirit and life becoming again in all in One God in being I believe, OMNILogicalGod, OMNILogically.

And of course I could be wrong, but I have a hard time believing that, I believe.

Our logical becoming into the Mind of God is transformation through the New Eve Baptized from the living waters through the created souls of all through the flesh becoming in One Body, through two natures spirit and life in the New Eve.

So true, our concentration is on forgiveness, our focus logically should be on loving only and loving with only the most love becoming transformed through The New Eve becoming Immaculate Flesh Virgin Born Spirit Incorruption in the New Adam for Jesus becoming through the Christ in all mankind becoming again immortally glorified and incorruptibly transfigured in all One Family, I believe.

To me logically, The Christ is flesh immortalization from Baptism becoming the New Eve in immaculate flesh for Jesus Virgin Born from Family Powers conceived in the New Adam becoming the Christ from Divine Spirit Family Conception becoming Baptized sanctified imortallity and Divine Family Incorruption becoming from Sacrifice through Penance forgiven for all mankind becoming again re-imaged in all One Divine Spirit Family One God in being, OMNILogically, I believe.

And for all created From The Father whoever is united with the Lords and Gods from the New Eve through the New Adam is one with The Holy Family from spirit through life becoming again in all, OMNILogically i believe.

A special thanks to Canadian Priest and Cade_One, for all.

Peace always,
Stephen

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Are you referring to two hydrogens and an oxygen (a pretty great analogy for the Holy Trinity) or are you referring to liquid, ice, and vapor (which would be an analogy for modalism, which Catholic Christians do not believe)?

Like most analogies, they fall short. The Father is fully God, The Son is fully God, and the Holy Spirit is fully God, but hydrogen is not fully water and oxygen is not fully water. But, it does help to show how different things can relate to one another to form one unity.

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…Allegedly. As I’ve said in the past, that I am a skeptic on the Maria V. stuff.

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Why does everything need to be in the Bible? Bible alone isn’t biblical so…

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Peace to all,

So true Bruised_Reed, if everything were writted not even the world could contain the books of the through all the logical formulas of The Wondrous Mysteries of the Faith becoming in all through The Christ becoming again in all One Holy Holy Family, I believe.

And each God is equal in the Powers as One God in being together From the Father through the Mother for The Son In One Holy Holy Family, I believe.

Through all generalizations, I believe OMNILogicalGod is Three Gods, Mary, Jesus and The Father from One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, becoming the OMNILogical Catholic Trinity in One Holy Family for all, I believe.

So true, I believe, to me the OMNILogical pen comes from the “Mind of God” becoming again in all One God, I believe.

Logically, “In The Beginning” of all mankind is created From the Father through the created souls of all for all through the Flesh becoming One Body Transformed through the New Eve Baptized Sanctified from The One United Spirit of The Holy Family through The Flesh of the Christ in all creation From The Power of the “Sophia” Wisdom of the Holy Family Conceived Virgin Born through Mary, Mother of God pre-existing becoming The Immaculate Conception for Jesus in the New Adam from Holy Spirit Incorruption through The Immaculate Immortal Flesh becoming One Body in The Christ for Sacrifice in Penance forgiven in all mankind becoming again in all Creation One Family, I believe.

Peace always,
Stephen

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So, you admit to to come after Christ. Very Good!

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If it not from the Bible it’s UNBIBLICAL!