Hey guys…so after reading what some of you have wrote, and after listening to tik-tok lives (Which I love listening too, especially the ones that Atheists and Theists do, where they debate the existence of God), I have come across a conclusion, through just pure observation, that God is real, and by just observing what the Atheist and Theist say, just helps reaffirm that God is actually real.
And, the thing of it is, it’s not hard to prove that God is real. The problem is, is that what is real for the Atheist differs for what is real for a Theist. That’s when things go South. But I’ve found that you can still bridge the gap, especially when you’re arguing with an Atheist. You can get the Atheist to agree that God is real, but this is where thinking outside-the-box helps, because you have to get them to think about it for a bit.
For example, let’s say I’m arguing with an Atheist. And I say “Ok, I think God exists, and the reason why I think God exists is because, if you believe something is non-existent, how can you back up that claim? Because by defintion, if something is non-existent, it doesn’t exist. So if God is non-existent, then how do you know they don’t exist? If something doesn’t exist, you would have no evidence of its existence correct? But by saying God is non-existent is a fallacy in a sense, is it not?” And the Atheist will say something to counteract your argument…which is fine, cause this is a typical way of how the other side phrases things.
So, the next thing I would do is say “Ok…do concepts exist, like love or jealousy?” And they would say “Well yeah, but we have ways of measuring love or jealousy.” And I would say “Yeah, but love is an abstract concept. So is jealousy. So are you saying that the abstract concept of God doesn’t exist?” And they’ll say “No, because how do we measure God?”
So then you can do this. You can say “Do people have imaginations?” And they’ll say “Yeah, everyone has an imagination.” And then I would say “Ok…well, according to you, God is a made-up concept correct?” And they would more than likely say “Correct.” And then I chime in and I say “Ok…so is it fair to say that because God is an imagined concept, is it not fair to say that God exists, even if only in someone’s imagination?” And if they’re honest with you, which most are, they would say “Yeah, but it’s only in someone’s imagination.” And then I say “Ok…so God exists technically, even if in your worldview he’s a made-up spirit, God as a concept or idea still exists, do they not?” And of course they don’t really say much after that.
Here’s the thing, you and I both know that God is more than just a made-up concept. Many people on here experience God everyday whether it be through other people, or through a sign of some sort, but there’s something that can’t be explained away, it just happens (well for some people anyway. I can pretty much explain everything, including how miracles work), but, there’s something supernatural that happens or some event that happens that Science or even Math can’t quantify. So, you and I can agree that God most definitely exists, but an honest Atheist will agree with you that God does exist even within the Atheist worldview, we just have different definitions of what that entails.
I know that’s not really the best way to prove God’s existence, but my premise still stands which is, how can you say something doesn’t exist when really it exists to some people out there. Ok, maybe you don’t see a need in believing in a God, but like it or not, concepts, ideas, and even something from your imagination (cause honestly, I’ve seen signs of certain concepts of certain ‘myths’ or ‘fairytale characters’ being true too, but that’s for a different time) do exist. But to say something that you can’t even see doesn’t exist, does not mean that idea doesn’t exist because it does!
I dunno…take what resonates and leave the rest.