RCIA/OCIA Order of Sacraments

I am in the process of converting from the Episcopal Church to the Roman Catholic Church. I have a valid trinitarian baptism that was accepted. As per the RCIA instructor my wife and I meet with monthly, I am to make my profession of faith and take communion at the April Vigil Mass.

The issue I have, is that I am in no way shape or form worthy enough to receive the Eucharist before going to confession and receiving absolution. I have pleaded with the instructor to allow me to make an appointment to confess, but he says I am unable to receive the Sacrament of Reconciliation until I am officially a Catholic. To me, since I made the decision to become Catholic wholeheartedly, this weighs on me. For my whole life I received communion as an Episcopalian and never thought twice about this, but ever since attending Catholic Mass all I can think about is how deeply I seek absolution because of my love and desire to be in communion with Christ when I take the Eucharist for the first time.

There are other people doing the structured OCIA program at our parish that have zero background in Christianity or have never been baptized. So, for them, the baptism at that mass will serve the purpose of cleansing their sin before they receive communion. However, I’m not being baptized, so where does that leave me? I would say, my entire life I have always practiced true repentance or perfect contrition through prayer…but is that enough if I know I am unworthy, or should a Priest allow me to take confession since I am validly baptized?

For the record, I absolutely love being Catholic (well soon to be Catholic); this is the absolute fulness of faith that I have been missing my entire life. I will say, however, that OCIA has been very frustrating at times. I do remedial workbooks, and write reviews of the Gospel from the mass we attend weekly and then submit them monthly to the instructor. I can honestly say that come April, there will have been zero difference in me making my profession of faith on that day, then it would have been for me to make the profession immediately in August when I started this journey with my family. I had already been studying Catholicism for a long time before making the decision, and once I had gone down that avenue, it was a no brainer. Additionally, the Episcopal Church (stemming from the Church of England which broke communion with King Henry then returned to communion with RCC under Queen Mary and then broke away again after her death) is extremely similar when it comes to liturgy and most of the Sacraments. The Eucharist at this point, just means so much to me, that I don’t know what the right course of action is?

Do I say, ok I’ll make my profession, but I’m crossing my arms one more time until I take part in the Sacrament of Reconciliation, or do I just trust in perfect contrition, take Communion and immediately schedule an appointment to confess asap?

It just cheapens the whole experience for me in April, I’ll feel as if I’m cheating because I’m carrying around burdens that I want freed. I did ask the Priest if I could just make my profession so I could confess and he referred me to the RCIA director. He is new to the parish and the RCIA director has been there for decades, so understandably I suppose he doesn’t want conflict. Thanks for any advice you have.

I mean, I’m not Catholic anymore….but you should be able to go to a different Parish and confess there. Don’t quote me on that, cause I’m not sure if you’re able to do that, but I would think you’d be fine doing that. Maybe someone who went through the RCIA can tell you?

Just my opinion: no way should you be discouraged from going to confession. I would explain the situation to a priest, and I think he would accommodate you.

A few years ago, I did volunteer work with an Episcopal Franciscan brother, and he told me that the Episcopal Church has confession. If you know of a “high” Episcopal church where you are, you might be able to go to confession there (though you might not want to mention why). Mother Seton, as you probably know, was Episcopalian and became Catholic and got shunned for it by her family, but that was about 200 years ago.

And another opinion, while I’m handing them out: none of us is worthy of Communion.

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Hi @Emmanuel and welcome to the forum!

It gives me joy to read that you are entering into full communion with the Catholic Church.

I am also sorry to hear that your experience in preparation has not been a good one.

@Literalman is right insofar as he says that you should not be discouraged from going to Confession, though I don’t endorse his suggestion of going to an Episcopal priest (since he lacks valid orders).

You should go to Confession to a Catholic priest. I don’t have an American OCIA book, but the Canadian one says that baptized adults should go to the Sacrament of Penance and Reconciliation before they make the profession of faith and receive Confirmation and Holy Communion. (I assume this is in the USA ritual as well, since there is no note saying that this is unique to the Canadian situation.)

A Catholic priest should not hear the confessions of Episcopalians. But the fact that you are preparing to be received into the Church and that you share the faith of the Church around the sacraments means that you can do so.

My advice: make a Confession appointment with a priest in another Catholic parish. You don’t have to get the permission of your parish priest nor the OCIA director. Considering how they are handling things, you probably shouldn’t even tell them.

Please inform the priest either before your appointment or at the start of your Confession that you are preparing to be received into the Church.

May God bless you on your journey!

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Awesome!

Yes, we recognize the Baptisms of most Baptisms that use the valid words, proper matter, and understanding of the Holy Trinity (for instance the LDS have the first two, but do not have a proper understanding Trinity, which makes their Baptism invalid).

First, the fact that you are concerned about this is awesome! This might be a better questions for @CanadianPriest, as he would know better than I. I too would think that you would receive Reconciliation before receiving our Lord in the Holy Eucharist, especially in light of St. Paul’s warning in 1 Corinthians 11:27-32.

All true.

Our friend was in RCIA the same time my Wife was, but at different Parishes. Hers was more like school, whereas ours was more like a family. When it is more like school, I think it turns people off.

I can tell that you are frustrated. It reminds me of Fr. Augustus Tolton (the first former slave to be Ordained a Priest in the United States). If I had to give one word for what he went through to become a Catholic Priest, it would be patience. There were so many times where he could have have given up. So many road-blocks and dashed hopes, but he persevered and with the help of others, he eventually was accepted into a Seminary and later ordained. Venerable Tolton has not yet been declaired a Saint of the Church, but I believe it won’t be long that he is recognized. I have enjoyed reading about his struggle, because it gives me little to complain about. His faith is definitely inspiring. There are a few good books about his life. I have read Sr. Caroline Hemesath’s biography of Tolton. I also see Deacon Harold Burke-Sivers has released a book about the life of Fr. Tolton as well.

I do not doubt this. Your post is great and inspiring. The world is in a rush. We Catholic Christians like to slow things down (Advent/Lent/OCIA : )

This is great! I love this.

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Additionally, the Episcopal Church (stemming from the Church of England which broke communion with King Henry then returned to communion with RCC under Queen Mary and then broke away again after her death) is extremely similar when it comes to liturgy and most of the Sacraments.

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Yes, we share much in common with the Episcopal Church. Dr. Taylor Marshall used to be an Anglican Priest before he became Catholic.

Know that your situation is in my Prayers.

I’m pretty sure my Wife (who was in your very situation) received Reconciliation prior to receiving Holy Eucharist. It could be that your instructor is mistaken. I would bring your concerns to your Parish Priest. I know some are more laxed than others. Hopefully, he shares your concerns. I think a good Priest would.

Hang in there! There will be so much joy come Easter! Thank you for sharing your struggle. It could inspire others. Christ’s peace and God Bless.

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I didn’t know that Episcopal priests’ holy orders are not accepted by the Catholic Church when they become Catholic. I’ve met a couple of Catholic priests who used to be Episcopalians, but I never heard them discuss the process of joining the Catholic Church.

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I just want to thank everyone for the amazing replies. I wrote a long email to my Parish Priest and deeply explained my concerns about taking Communion without Reconciliation. He almost immediately responded, and set up an appointment to meet with me this week. Hopefully, after we meet he shares what seems to be the consensus here in that I should take part in confession before my first Communion. Thank you to all again.

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Awesome! God is good & merciful!