I’m no longer Catholic. I am 99% chance going t become eastern orthodox. I will make a video some day on why I am, so if you want to see my opinions on the matter, you can stay tuned on my youtube channel: youtube.com/@nuncincipioproChristo the name is “Counter Deformer“
I have subscribed. I had considered the Eastern Orthodox Church a few years ago, even reached out to the Pastor of our local Orthodox Church. Our Presbyterian Pastor had converted to Orthodoxy. Our Catholic Priest used to joke (prior to his conversion) that Pastor Bob was more Catholic than he was.
But, God led me back to the Catholic Christian Church. I would Pray that you remain and not become an Ortho-Bro, but if that is where God is leading you, who am I to get in the way of this. I am interested in your reasons for converting.
If you like the Eastern Liturgy, there are Eastern Rite Catholic Churches, where you can remain in unity, but maybe this is not of importance to you.
Don’t be a stranger though. Whatever you decide, you are always welcome here.
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One request for you and all other video and podcast posters: when you post it, tell us how long it is. Then I can decide whether and when to watch it. Thank you.
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I haven’t even started on it yet since I’ve been busy. But it should only be around 10-15 minutes or so. I don’t make long videos
Short is good, but when you post it, please state that it is 12 minutes or whatever. A few years ago our bishop had a podcast, and I wanted to know what he had to say about one of the topics. But the diocesan website didn’t say how long the podcast was, and after about 20 minutes he got to the part I was interested in, and the whole thing was about half an hour.
you should just do it and not tell anyone you’re doing it.
I want people to find truth. That’s what I’m all for, is TRUTH. And God is Truth. So if Eastern Orthodoxy is the truth (i.e., if its truly orthodox) I want others to understand also and find the truth.
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Peace to all,
Catholicism is from the of The Two Nature God from the Faith of Abraham, I believe.
Catholic, Non-Orthodox, is I believe, accepting the Crimes of Adam and Eve as our fault, also.
In OMNILogical least common denominators love becomes created from the Faith of Abraham love becomes again through two natures love becomes through immortalized flesh becomes from the incorruptible spirit love becomes One Body becoming again One Holy Family, I believe.
The logic in the Orthodoxies, in all generalizations, in Non-Orthodox the believer accepts responsibility of the Sin of Adam and Eve as the logical creation of Love for all mankind through two natures through love spirit and life become again, and the Non-Orthodox Catholic would have done the same thing, and are guilty, I believe.
Peace always,
Stephen
I can hang out with you, but aren’t you going to be busy with finding new Orthodox friends? Or you want to convert Catholics over to your new thing?
What’s the single women ratio look like over there? Aren’t Eastern European women Orthodox?
Some of the things I dislike about Catholicism is they’ve given women the green light to be covert narcissistic and mean spirited people, with nobody allowed to call them out on their nasty behavior. It’s pathetic. Like a bunch of beta push-over priests allowed this to happen
Secondly, I dislike the YPG dynamic. I honestly believe YPG’s have been pushed into Catholic Churches as a weapon. The age discrimination is used to divide and damage communities. Then they give nasty and cold blooded young women leadership roles to form church cliques that alienate most parishioners, they chase good people away, and they’re clique as all hell. It’s terrible in my opinion
Back when Podcasting first started, when you had to use Juicer Podcatcher and manually input the RSS Feed to fetch the podcasts, I was burning them to CD for my 2-hour commute to see my Wife (girlfriend at the time). If a Podcast was longer than 80 minutes, it would not fit on a CD. That meant, I had to to either skip it or cut it in half in an audio editor.
Now that I have an iPod, I love listening to long-form interviews (3 hours +) and live hangs.
It’s your channel @nuncincipio, I say make it however long or short you want. Some people can listen to casts at double-speed, but I am not one of these. Who wants to listen to that guy from the “Micro Machines” commercials in the 80’s? : )
You’re Unc then haha. I’m only 16 so I don’t know about all that old stuff
You keep using this acronym YPG, but I have know idea what you are referring to. When I google it, it says that it is more common in the Presbyterian world.
And why do you let these individuals have so much power over your emotions?
Nuncincio,
I was recently in St. Louis for my granddaughter’s volleyball tournament & I spent two hours touring the beautiful St. Louis Cathedral located there.
Upon returning to the volleyball tournament, I was introduced to a parent of another player and I told him that if he has the time, he should go visit the Cathedral of St. Louis.
I had no idea if he was Catholic, Protestant, agnostic, Muslim, Hindu or whatever It didn’t matter because beauty is beauty and the cathedral is absolutely amazing.
He told me that he ought to go because he “used to be Catholic.“
That kind of statement has always confused me, so I asked him what he meant
He said that he was raised Catholic, but that he had fallen away from The Church and that he sometimes goes to Baptist Church, but not that often.
I then told him that you can’t “used’ to be Catholic” and he asked me “why not?”
So, I answered with some logic that I came up many years ago, all on my own, which I will share here.
I asked him, “Did you go to college?
His response: “Yeah, I graduated from Texas A&M.”
My response “So, you’re an Aggie?”
His response: “Yes, a proud one.”
My response: “Have you ever said I ‘used’ to be an Aggie?”
His response: “No, once you’re an Aggie, you’re always an Aggie.”
My response: “Well, if once an Aggie, always an Aggie, then how can you say “I was ‘once’ Catholic, but now I’m not?“
HIS BRAIN FROZE!!!
His eyes were frozen also; looking into the distance, but seeing nothing except images from his past, maybe Catholic school, maybe being an altar boy, maybe his first communion or confirmation. I don’t know what, but they certainly were not in St. Louis at that moment.
After 6 or 7 seconds, he gathered his wits and said “I’m gonna have to think about that for a while.“
I then said “As you can see, you can’t say that you are not Catholic any longer. The Catholic Church accepted you at baptism with the oath that your parents took to raise your Catholic and then with your Confirmation, you ‘confirmed’ that acceptance. The Catholic Church doesn’t just say ‘OK, if you don’t want to be here, good riddance’.”
The Catholic Church says “‘We are still here for you’ & one day, your heart & mind will hear The Church calling you back & you’ll take that first step and go to Sunday mass and wonder why you ever left. “
How I came up with this on my own, I don’t know. I’ve told it to several Priests and a Bishop and they all have the same blank stare for a moment when they process the pure logic of it.
It may be the best Catholic thing that I’ve ever said. The Nuns, Brothers & Priests that educated me when I was young may be smiling up in Heaven.
God Bless & like I say to my Catholic friends, “See you in church.“
First, I want to thank you for sharing your story! Beautiful.
I have a few problems with you saying that you cannot leave the Catholic Church.
- I believe in fee-will. Just like a Christian can reject the gift of salvation at any point along their journey, one can reject their Catholic Christian Faith. To say that one cannot, should result in what Protestants do, which is child dedication (slapping the gift of life in Christ out of their child’s hands until they ask for it, or never ask for it).
- When surveys are taken and someone is asked what Religion they are, often non-practicing Catholic or fallen-away Catholics will answer as though they are Catholic and skew the data. And most survey companies are not great at clarifying.
- Cults do not let their members leave. To say that someone cannot leave the Catholic Church is making her very much like a cult. I have a problem with this as well.
Yes, as Christians, we receive an indelible mark when we are Baptized. No one can take us away from the Love of God, but ourselves. The mark remains, but our relationship has been severed. We have not been rejected by God, but we have rejected Him.
So, on some levels I agree with you, but on other levels, I disagree.
I get your point, but this is actually heretical in Roman Catholicism. The Roman Catholic Church makes it very clear that you can lose membership. For that you can see Pius XII’s Mystici Corporis #21 and #23. You must have faith and be baptized, not just have faith. And faith in the church; not just in Christ. If anyone rejects dogmas of the church, they are heretics (this is also the orthodox view), therefore they are “kicked out” of the church for rejecting her.
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Hi Cade,
Thanks for your thoughts!!!
Take another read of my reply to Nuncincio. (sp)
I didn’t say that you can’t “leave” the Catholic Church. I said that you can’t say I “used” to be Catholic.
I’ve known dozens of folks that have “left” the Catholic Church for a variety of reasons.
Some say boring priests that give terrible 30 minute, lackluster, non-inspirational homilies that have nothing to do with the Sunday readings & give watered down instruction of what it means to be Catholic. They would rather go to a Baptist Church where the preacher is hired for his speaking ability and ability to raise money & a nice potluck lunch afterward.
Some leave because of the liberalism that now permeates our Church.
Some leave because our church doesn’t stand up for abortion rights, where I personally think that our Church should remind us constantly that supporting abortion in any way is a mortal sin, whether financially or through our vote.
Some leave because they say that Vatican II was a mistake.
Some say Pope Francis’s attack on TLM and now possibly Pope Leo’s stance on the same
But nowadays, most will cite the scandals within our Church.
They neglect to notice that the sexual scandals permeate all denominations. Just take a look at the 2022 Southern Baptist Convention report showing that sexual offenders were hidden by the Baptist leaders or the reports against them ignored.
I digress, but I say “Once Catholic , Catholic 4Ever.”
God Bless,
Ignatius
You just admitted that you can leave the church. Therefore once catholic always catholic is false. Because it’s possible to leave the church. Right? It’s possible to stop being catholic since you can leave.
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Nope, you can leave anything, just like leaving a movie theater. That doesn’t change who you are.
Some say that the great blasphemy that cannot be forgiven is leaving the Catholic faith.
Some say that the great blasphemy that cannot be forgiven is leaving the Catholic faith.
Any other denomination was started by man, Joseph Smith, Luther, Roger Williams, John Clarke, Calvin, etc.
Jesus started the early church which became the Catholic church, not debatable.
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Nuncincipio,
I think that you are missing my point.
One can physically leave any Church building or gathering.
One can’t ‘used’ to be Catholic just because you now go to a Protestant church or no church or cuss out the Pope no more than the fella that I met can say that he ‘used’ to be an Aggie.
He can mail back his Texas A&M degree, graduate with a Master’s Degree from the University of Texas & pee on the president of the university’s car, but he is still an Aggie.
Likewise, you can’t mail back your Catholic Baptismal Certificate & pee on the steps of the Vatican and magically transform into something else.
Clear as mud?
Ignatius
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