Private Revelation will never trump Public Revelation

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Nope. I am not interested in what God allegedly revealed to some rando. I am more interested in what God has reveled to the rondos in the Bible and to their successors. I feel like latching onto supposed, modern prophesies could lead one astray (no offense). I know that you are very passionate about this, but it is not something that I am interested in entertaining.

I do believe in both private and public revelation. And I believe God is actively speaking to us in many ways. Where I get cautiously skeptical is when individuals use terms like “spokesperson of God” or confuse private revelation with public revelation. Or worse, thoughts of a mad-man as revelations from God (I’m not saying that this is the case here, but I tend to stick to what is sound.)

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That is the important question when talking about this topic.

I do. The Catechism says that “no new public revelation is to be expected before the glorious manifestation of our Lord Jesus Christ” (CCC 66).

Paragraph 67 says, “Throughout the ages, there have been so-called ‘private’ revelations, some of which have been recognized by the authority of the Church. They do not belong, however, to the deposit of faith. It is not their role to improve or complete Christ’s definitive Revelation, but to help live more fully by it in a certain period of history… [The] Christian faith cannot accept ‘revelations’ that claim to surpass or correct the Revelation of which Christ is the fulfillment…”

St. Paul says, “Do not quench the Spirit. Do not despise prophetic utterances. Test everything; retain what is good” (1 Thess. 5:19-21).

Maybe I do wrongly despise prophetic utterances and quench the Spirit when I hear someone claiming to be “a spokesperson of God.” And I do it out of caution.

I am also skeptical of what is being referred to as “the spirit of synodality.” I think a lot of individuals are pushing an agenda (again, I’m not saying that this is the case with Miss Valtorta).

The Church has said, “It should be reiterated that alleged ‘visions’, ‘revelations,’ and ‘messages’ contained in the writings of Maria Valtorta—or, in any case, attributed to them—cannot be regarded as having a supernatural origin. Rather, they should be considered simply as literary forms that the author used to narrate the life of Jesus Christ in her own way.”

Fr. Mark Slatter said in an article, “To keep a sane view of private revelation, you must know first and above all that you do not have to accept any private revelation whatsoever, nor are you bound to it in any way except to that which already reflects the truths of Scripture and Tradition.”

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Peace to all,

“simply literary forms that the author used to narrate the life of Jesus Christ in her own way”

In Maria Valtorta’s writings, what are her greatest revelations?

Peace always,
Stephen

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Peace to all,

“they all seem clothed in white**:** that luminous white of the garments of Jesus and Mary.”

"When I attained the capacity of seeing further, thanks to the Love enkindled and suspended above me, my spirit was called to look still higher. And against the clearer azure of Paradise, I saw the Father — distinctly, in as much as His figure was in lines of immaterial light. [He had] a beauty which I do not try to describe because it is beyond human capacity. He appeared to me as on a throne. I say this because He seemed to me to be seated with infinite majesty. But I did not see a throne, or armchair or canopy. Nothing of any earthly form of seat. He seemed to be at my left side (toward the direction of my crucified Jesus — just to give you an indication — and therefore to the right of His Son), but at an incalculable height. And yet I saw Him in the tiniest of His most luminous features. He was looking toward the window (still to give you an indication of the various positions). He was looking with a look of infinite love.

I followed His gaze and saw Jesus. Not the Jesus-Master Whom I usually see. But the Jesus-King**:** clothed in white but with a luminous and extremely white garment, as is that of Mary.
On the left, the ranks of Confessors. On the right, those of the Virgins. I do not see the ranks of Martyrs, and the Spirit makes me understand that the Martyrs are joined to the Virgins, since martyrdom ’ re-virginizes**'** the soul as if it were just created. Whether Confessors or Virgins, they all seem clothed in white**:** that luminous white of the garments of Jesus and Mary.
Then the Light summons my spirit to the other side of the room, that is toward Martha’s9 bed, and I see my angel. He is kneeling, turned toward Mary whom he appears to venerate. Clothed in white, his arms placed in a cross on his breast with his hands touching his shoulders. His head is bowed very low, therefore I see little of his face. He is in an attitude of profound homage. I see his beautiful long wings, very white, pointed, true wings made to fly swiftly and surely from earth to Heaven, now gathered behind his shoulders. He teaches me with his attitude, as if he says**: ‘** Hail, Mary**.’**

The Father looks at the Son on His left. The Son looks at His Mother and me. But I assure you if He did not look with love I could not bear the brilliance of His Look and of His Countenance. He is truly the King of dreadful majesty, as it is said8.

Then Maria states “On high, always, the Father, the Son, and now also the Spirit high above the Two, between the Two, Whom He unites with His brilliance.”

Where did Mary go? We see Mary returned and now mentioned but with Jesus and not the father? And now per Maria, the Holy Spirit is the Eternal Father?

A Body of flesh and a Spirit that is alive, throbbing, perfect, sensitive to touch and contact — only the Body of Jesus and of Mary are that: two glorious Bodies, but truly ’ bodies.’ Then, Light with the form of a body (just so that it can be perceptible to this poor handmaid of God): the Eternal Father, the Holy Spirit and my angel. Next, Light already more solid**:** St. Joseph and St. John, certainly because I must hear their presence and word. Finally, White Flames, which are spiritualized bodies**:** all the Blessed who form the multitude of Heaven.

" T H E M Y S T E R Y

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I continue to state her pseudo conversations may be possibly believable.

Logically what did Maria hear from the Trinity of Powers with respect to the persons in the Trinity? Maria sees Mary several times and only mentions Jesus and the Father as above, to me not logical. Thanks in advance.

I can’t imagine rationally Maria was told Mary was not in the Trinity of powers preexisting together with the Father and the Son in One Holy Family One God in being becoming again in all mankind, One God.

I hope Maria agrees creation of the soul is from the spirit through the flesh for the Body in both natures becoming again One Family.

The Last Judgement is the second coming.

Does Maria know logically, from the Mind of God?, that the Fall from grace from Adam and Eve was the creation of love giving the freedom to love or not to love becoming again to love only and to love with only the most love, through the New Eve in the New Adam becoming The Christ in all mankind undefiled infallible fulfillled Eternal Life and Spirit, becoming again One Holy Family One God in being.

The anti-Christ is anything but The Will of the Father. Don’t be mislead, rationally. logically and know faithfully becoming again is logically only one way.

The Book of Revelation was fundamentally revealed by Mary who was with John for perhaps 35 years, the Queen of Council had special knowledge and knew from the beginning just like Mary told John in the Gospel According to John, Mary was there in the beginning is Mother of God in The Word, and the Word was God together and the Word, the Holy Spirit Family was With God, in Mary, Queen of Heaven and Mother of God is there and is always protected.

Thanks in advance,

Peace always,
Stephen

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This Divine assistance to which Valtorta attests in correcting and reviewing the final drafts of her revelations, thus bears witness to the value and care that Christ Himself gives to this precious treasure bequeathed to His Church of today.
Here is her testimony written on July 2, 1948:171

I, Maria Valtorta, declare that all that I have written and described corresponds exactly to all that I have seen and heard, whether I wrote under dictation, or in private lessons (private lessons are those which are separate from the Pregospel – the Gospel – the Postgospel) which I have written some hours after having the lesson, being unable to write at the moment I received it either from too great a [physical] collapse, or from the presence of strangers. In this case I am always assisted by Our Lord Jesus Christ, by Most Holy Mary, or by the Holy Spirit, Who help the weakness of my memory by repeating to me or suggesting to me how I should say it, according to whether they are words I heard or visions I viewed contemplatively.

If I myself feel that I do not have the assistance of my Most Holy Helpers, I make no attempt to write or describe [anything], but I await Their coming in order to do it, because I realize I would only know how to use words and descriptions which would not correspond perfectly to what I saw and heard, due to my incapacity to describe the supernatural visions or to repeat the sublime lessons of Wisdom, and of the Spouse and Mother of Wisdom.

And while with grateful adoration I give thanks to God and Mary for Their assistance, I declare also that whatever I have known supernaturally and set down on paper with regard to: the Life of Mary and of Her Divine Son, the Unity and Trinity of God, the Immaculate Conception of Mary and Her Virginal Maternity occurring through the work of the Holy Spirit; on Her eternal Virginal Integrity and Her blessed Assumption; the Incarnation, Passion, Resurrection, and Ascension of the Word; on the Apostolic Church, the Sacraments, the Last Things: in short, with regard to everything that is an Article of Faith for the faithful Catholic—I have known these solely by supernatural means and not by myself alone, but through grace and universal salvation.

And since I have received this for everyone, I give without retaining anything of what I have received. And I give it to the [religious] order which Jesus Christ has chosen to be the guardian and administrator of this supernatural treasure of wisdom.

God’s reasons for this choice are known completely to God and to the Mother of God, Who have enumerated them to me. But I can only say a part of them—This: that the divine Word, newly poured out and given to Humanity 8 to fortify it in the hour of semi-darkness— forerunner of the hour of darkness which it is now traversing—is given to humanity as It was given to Israel through Mary and with the protection of Joseph, and again was later given by Mary to the masses: [that Word] is now given in the same way by means of the Order of the Servites of Mary—to which the little Maria, the messenger, belongs—and with the protection of the Order, which in this case is acting as the servant of the Word like Joseph and, like Joseph, is Its protector. And it is the Divine Will that the Order of [Servites] of Mary have the same affection for the Word as did Most Holy Mary and Saint Joseph, perfect servants of God.

Peace to all,

“Obviously such “private revelations” have frequently given souls access precisely to public Revelation.” A Summa and Encyclopedia to Maria Valtorta’s Extraordinary Work, p. 176

To me Maria’s faithful Stories confirm to me, logically, the Will of Creation OMNILogically becoming again in all One Family, I believe. And logical understanding of The Mind of God is sometimes not yet understood by the faithful, I believe. I see Maria’s faithful writings of the same faith, nothing new, though, I believe,

So true, some ask? How does “The Mind of God” work? Logically? Divine Assistance helps all faithfully and also logically, I believe.

Maria is giving a different but faithful account of the Historical Non-Fiction Story of The Christ, Jesus conceived from the Power of the Holy Spirit Family One God in being on Earth, only Earth, I believe, Maria has a faithful similar story of the same message, is what Maria is writing all about, I believe.

To me this confirms OMNILogic and the continued from Earth understanding of a Trinity not logically understood correctly until even today. And only faithfully Maria sees the Holy Spirit as a Person and is bringing nothing new for logical and rational rebirth and salvation for all becoming again One Family. This is the logical truth Maria is missing, OMNILogically, I believe.

I most agree, reading her works lead souls to faithful hope in Salvation through different version of the same story in a similar place with same people reintroduced doing similar things but not expressed logically, I believe.

Confusion in Maria’s faithful writings include no logical understanding of The Christ, I believe. And rationally, through all generalizations, The Holy Spirit is The Family of God One God in being, OMNILogically, I believe.

Maria’s faithful writings continue misunderstanding The Holy Spirit as a person and not the Family of God the Trinity rationally and faithfully is.

What is “The Christ”? logically?
The Logical Christ is Jesus conceived by The Power of The Holy Spirit Family One God in being so we ask? Where did this logic even come from and who can deny the Logical Power? The Christ is Our Body, living Baptized immaculately immortalized becoming Holy Spirit incorruptible from the Power of The Holy Spirit Family One God in being living, becoming alive in all mankind becoming brothers and sisters of Jesus through our own Christ becoming in all mankind, I believe. And through the Christ we become again One Family, I believe, this is how The Mind of God logically works.

What logically becomes again is the Holy Spirit Family from where The Father and The Son and Mary came from becoming the Christ in Jesus becoming in all mankind One Holy Spirit Family One God in being. What does Maria Faithfully say about the Holy Family? About What being logically the Christ is? Jesus is Virgin Born from The Immaculate Flesh of the New Eve for all Baptized becoming brothers and sisters through The Incorruptible Holy Spirit Family Will of the Holy Spirit Family One God from The New Adam in being conceived from the Power of The Holy Spirit Family becoming alive and living in all mankind for Jesus through the Christ from Sacrifice through Penance forgiven in all mankind becoming Sons and Daughters in all mankind becoming Immortally Glorified and Incorruptibly Spirit Transfigured through spirit and life in both natures from One Body becoming again in all Creation One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, OMNILogically, I believe.

Through all generalizations, Maria is bringing faith rewritten similarly, a similar story on a different day, I believe, but Maria is bringing nothing new to the table, OMNILogically, I believe.

Like, How does “The Mind of God” work? Faithfully, Logically?

Peace always,
Stephen

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Private Revelation will never trump Public Revelation

@Cade_One, Private Revelation and Public Revelation both come from God, and what comes from God could never trump, as in surpass, anything else from God. If you meant to say that Private Revelation will never replace Public Revelation, then that is correct.

The teaching of the Catholic Church is that authentic Private Revelation never adds anything new to the Deposit of Faith (Public Revelation), which was given to the Christian (Catholic) Church for all time and was sealed with the death of the last apostle. Although Private Revelation never adds anything new, it may clarify things already in the Deposit of Faith, or it may reveal things heretofore unknown that are, objectively, already contained in the Deposit of Faith.

I highly recommend reading the following chapters in A Summa and Encyclopedia to Maria Valtorta’s Extraordinary Work:

  • Private Revelation: Rules of Use and Its Relation to Public Revelation. (pp. 109-116)

  • Should We Just Ignore Authentic Private Revelations Because it is Merely Private Revelation and Catholics Aren’t Required, Strictly Speaking, to Believe it or Make Use of It? Should We Ignore This One? (pp. 173-185)

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I don’t understand the aversion to Private Revelation by Christians.

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In the February 22, 2025 press release from the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith (DDF) regarding Maria Valtorta’s writings, they said, “It should be reiterated that alleged “visions”, “revelations,” and “messages” contained in the writings of Maria Valtorta—or, in any case, attributed to them—cannot be regarded as having a supernatural origin. Rather, they should be considered simply as literary forms that the author used to narrate the life of Jesus Christ in her own way”. Any honest objective investigator wouldn’t and shouldn’t automatically take their word for it, especially when they failed to give any indication of whether they reviewed the proof in support of her writings having a supernatural origin. My response to the DDF’s decision mirrors that of those given by the Maria Valtorta’s Readers’ Group, as expressed in the following article: Response to the Vatican’s 2025 Press Release on Maria Valtorta. See excerpts below.

The February 22, 2025, press release from the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith (DDF) regarding Maria Valtorta’s writings is not part of the Ordinary Magisterium. It is a disciplinary clarification, not a formal teaching on faith or morals. It does not carry the authoritative weight of magisterial documents like encyclicals or catechetical texts. It’s fallible, and we hold that the DDF’s statement that Maria Valtorta’s work “cannot be considered of supernatural origin” is not only incorrect, but also absurd, given the overwhelming evidence of its supernatural nature. We place this erroneous judgment by the DDF in the same category as other historical mistakes made by this office:

• The erroneous declaration that Saint Padre Pio’s stigmata was “not of supernatural origin,” along with the multiple censures of him.

• The initial placement of St. Faustina Kowalska’s writings on the Index of Forbidden Books by the Holy Office, a decision later reversed with her canonization

.• The condemnation of the works of St. Thomas Aquinas on January 18, 1277, which was eventually annulled.

• Venerable Mary of Agreda’s Mystical City of God, which was examined for fourteen years, placed on the Index of Forbidden Books for three months, then vindicated by Pope Clement XI, who issued two decrees strictly prohibiting its future inclusion on the Index. In the past century, two Popes affirmed her work, even extending Apostolic Blessings to its readers and promoters—an action far removed from the earlier judgment of the Hierarchy, which had placed it on the Index.

• During the pontificate of Pope Leo XIII, the Index of Forbidden Books was revised, and approximately one thousand books were removed, highlighting the fluidity of some of these judgments.

Therefore, the Maria Valtorta Readers’ Group:

  1. Personally believes in the supernatural origin of Maria Valtorta’s writings.
  2. Affirms the right of other Catholics to personally believe in the supernatural origin of her writings.
  3. Publicly acknowledges the DDF statement which says they do not consider it supernatural in origin, though we respectfully disagree with it, considering it an error.

While we disagree with the DDF’s conclusion, we still adhere to the discipline of not presenting Valtorta’s writings as if they have received approval by the Vatican as coming from a supernatural source. Where some may disagree with us is in whether we can disagree with the factual accuracy of the DDF statement. We maintain that well-informed Catholics, understanding that not all statements from the DDF are infallible, may rightfully doubt certain conclusions. If informed Catholics can present credible evidence that a statement is erroneous, they are not committing a sin by rejecting it. We do not reject the authority of the DDF, but rather we challenge the validity of the specific conclusion in this case, considering it to be an erroneous judgment.

  1. There is compelling evidence that Maria Valtorta’s work is far more than just a novel. This evidence spans across theological, spiritual, literary, and scientific fields, as well as the immense good it has brought to countless souls. When examined with honesty, it becomes clear that the work cannot simply be attributed to the literary imaginings of a human being, particularly considering the breadth of expertise Valtorta lacked and her severely compromised physical condition at the time of writing. For further details, please refer to the following sub-chapters in our free e-book (A Summa and Encyclopedia to Maria Valtorta’s Extraordinary Work), which provide information on scientific evidence supporting Maria Valtorta’s claim of supernatural inspiration:

• Proof by Astronomy (Such as Detailed Astronomic Observations Over the Course of Hundreds of Pages in Her 1940s Visions that a Purdue University Professor of Theoretical Physics Testified Are Remarkably Consistent with Her Dating System and that She Could Not Have Predicted or Verified Without a Computer)

• Proof by Geography and Topography and Archaeology (Including Her Describing Palestine and Over 350 Geographical Locations in the Holy Land with a Level of Precision in Multiple Fields that She Could Not Possibly Have Known Without Modern Electronic Scholastic Resources or Access to an Extensive Collection of Books/Atlases in the 1940s that Eyewitnesses and Common Sense Confirm She Did Not—Nor Could Have Had—Access to and Which Itself Arguably Would Have Been Insufficient to Complete Her Work)

• Proof by its Knowledge, Depth, and Eminence in the Theological, Exegetical, Mystical, and Mariological Fields (Which Many World-Renowned Trustworthy Theologians Say Exceed Anything They Have Ever Read)

• Proof by Her Detailed, Exact, and Often Unparalleled Knowledge of the Political, Religious, Economic, Social, and Familial Situation—as Well as the Dress—of the Ancient Jewish, Samaritan, and Roman Peoples that Astound Even World-Renowned Biblical Scholars

• Proof by The Poem’s Unquestionable Expertise, Deep Knowledge, and Exhaustive Information in Such a Wide Variety of Theological and Scientific Subjects, and the Fact Almost 15,000 Handwritten Pages of Such Was Written in Only 3½ Years Amidst Her Unusually Severe Physical Condition and Illnesses and Even Though She Lacked the Learning, Resources, and Books Required to Write a Work a Tenth as Profound as This

• Proof by the Extraordinary, Unprecedented Way in Which it Was Written, Compiled, & Put Together (Such as the Fact that 166 Out of the 647 Chapters Were Written Out of Order, and She has Jesus Ministering in Over 350 Named Locations and Traveling Over 4,000 Miles in Six Different Cycles Across Palestine, and Yet Jesus and All of the Other 500+ Characters are Never in a Place Inconsistent with Either the Story Line or the Timing and Distance Necessities Required for Traveling, and There is Not One Person, Place, or Thing Out of Place)

• Proof By the Writing’s Extraordinary Purity, Holiness, Loftiness, and Eminence Among the Writings that Exist in the World

• Proof (or a Substantiating Factor) by Research that Shows that The Poem is Not Based on (or a Mere Expansion of) any Known Gospel Manuscript Standard, Version, or School of Critical Thought, Something Expected if a Work of This Magnitude, Detail, and Accuracy Had Been a Mere Human Effort

• Proof (or a Substantiating Factor) in How The Poem Resolves Many Problems in the Gospel Accounts Which Scholars Have Struggled with For Years (Including Apparent Contradictions Between the Different Gospel Accounts and Apparent Errors or Inconsistencies Within the Same Gospel Account), and How It Furthermore Corrects Certain Misunderstandings and Translation Errors that Have Been Perpetuated Throughout the Centuries

• Proof (or a Substantiating Factor) by the Fact Maria Valtorta’s Visions of Christ’s Passion Perfectly Match Detailed Findings on the Miraculous Shroud of Turin that Recent Modern Scientific Tests Have Revealed Decades After Her Writings Were Published and the Fact Her Writings Foretold Something Amazing About the Veil of Veronica Which Has Been Scientifically Proven for the First Time Decades After Her Death

• Proof (or a Substantiating Factor) by its Perfect Correspondence to the Ancient Liturgical and Patristic Tradition of the Ancient Catholic Byzantine Rite of the Church

• Proof by the Testimony of Countless Trustworthy Clerics, Authorities, Experts, Scientists, and Pious Lay Faithful and the Tremendously Good Fruits Produced in Individuals and in the Church as a Whole

I highly recommend checking out the links in my “About Me” section on my profile.

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A Summa and Encyclopedia to
Maria Valtorta’s Extraordinary Work

In a dictation, Christ addresses why He gave this immense revelation to Maria Valtorta, and how He will continue to speak through His “voices” (His prophets/mystics/saints) until the end of time:110

This Divine assistance to which Valtorta attests in correcting and reviewing the final drafts of
her revelations, thus bears witness to the value and care that Christ Himself gives to this
precious treasure bequeathed to His Church of today.

I, Maria Valtorta, declare that all that I have written and described corresponds exactly to all
that I have seen and heard, whether I wrote under dictation, or in private lessons (private
lessons are those which are separate from the Pregospel - the Gospel - the Postgospel) which I have written some hours after having the lesson, being unable to write at the moment I received it either from too great a [physical] collapse, or from the presence of strangers. In this case I am always assisted by Our Lord Jesus Christ, by Most Holy Mary, or by the Holy Spirit, Who help the weakness of my memory by repeating to me or suggesting to me how I should say it, according to whether they are words I heard or visions I viewed contemplatively.

Even in the corrections of the typescripts I have the assistance of Our Lord Jesus Christ in
whatever is of the Gospel, and the assistance of the Holy Spirit for the other lessons (Angelic Masses1 and Pauline Epistles, or other lessons of the Bible).

And since I have received this for everyone, I give without retaining anything of what I have
received. And I give it to the [religious] Order which Jesus Christ has chosen to be the guardian and administrator of this supernatural treasure of wisdom. I believe the Poem of the Man-God is one of the greatest gifts God has ever given to mankind, and that it is of such importance that it deserves to be held alongside the Sacred Heart revelations, La Salette, Lourdes, Fatima, and all of the great Church-approved private revelations of history; and that it is so powerful, informative, and comprehensive that it even surpasses all visions and dictations on the life of Christ and of the Blessed Virgin ever given to mankind to date, including those written by Blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich and those written by Venerable Mary of Agreda in her world-renowned work, The Mystical City of God (see the chapter of this e-book entitled “How does the Poem of the Man-God Compare to the Revelations of Blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich and Venerable Mary of Agreda’s Mystical City of God.

It is a masterpiece of sacred literature, unlike anything ever written. In some ways it is like
being in the first seminary, trained by the Master Himself. A professor and sculptor friend of
Maria Valtorta wrote in 1965: “[her works] have completely transformed my inner life. The
knowledge of Christ has become so total as to make the Gospels clear to me and make me live them in everyday life better” (Lorenzo Ferri). All those among our parishioners who have read Valtorta say the same thing.

There is enough to enable each one of us to become holy and inflamed with the love of God by what is contained in Public Revelation in the Deposit of Faith, the doctrine that is available in the writings of the Magisterium of the Church and the saints, and the exemplary biographies and autobiographies of the saint’s lives. Yet even so, there is such great potential for good and growth in sanctity for us to hear more of Christ’s Words, and to see and know more of His actions during His life, so much so that Christ has deigned throughout history to make revelations about His life and that of His Holy Mother to various saints for the good of the faithful (such as Venerable Mary of Agreda, Blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich, St. Bridget of Sweden, etc.) The Poem of the ManGod is undoubtedly His most generous of such revelations and we would be foolish for neglecting it!

As to what concerns these truths, e.g., the Most Holy Eucharist, the dignity and mission of
the Blessed Virgin Mary, Jesus already spoke during His life more clearly than the Church
has done for centuries, so that the dogmatic progress for these and other truths is a return
to the fullness of their Source.

Christ told Maria Valtorta:67
With so many books dealing with Me and which, after so many revisions, changes, and fineries have become unreal, I want to give those who believe in Me a vision brought back to the truth of My mortal days. I am not diminished thereby, on the contrary I am made greater in My humility, which becomes substantial nourishment for you, to teach you to be humble and like Me, as I was a man like you and in My human life I bore the perfection of a God.

Peace to all,

The Christ is Logically One Body through two natures from Two Gods, From Mary through the Immaculate Conception Baptized for for Jesus from the Incorruptible Holy Spirit through Sacrifice for Penance forgiven in all becoming again for all in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, rationally and faithfully.

Peacce always,
Stephen