…And if logic as a subject cannot explain in entirety the creation of all which the universe holds, then how do you suppose it is any different in Heaven. That on an Eternal level there is some different kind of logic. Then humanity is stumped because if it is through faith and reason that we can come to know of God then if these terms all mean something alien somewhere else then we will never know anything. It would be like being given Greek words to learn Italian.
Peace to all,
Through faith, we can only hope, through logic we can see God with new eyes.
Finite minds can never understand the infinite disciplines of the Dominion.
Only logically we can know the mind of God becoming again for all creation in One God in being.
Peace always,
Stephen Andrew
Replace the word ‘logic’ with ‘reason’ and then you’re a percentage of the way towards putting yourself back enroute. With logic alone you cannot see God with new eyes, unless you worship Sanyo or Asus or Acer or Panasonic or LG or Samsung or Lenovo or IBM or Toshiba or any stone-cold god which thinks by means of formulated ‘calculations’ that might have ‘programmed’ us into being.
God’s a Mystery. Logic? Get over it.
Peace to all,
Choice in the garden created love logically, from the spirit failed through the flash corrupt.
Peace always,
Stephen
Adam and Eve’s fall didn’t “create” anything. God is not ‘cause and effect’. And they were not on strings. God booted them out of Eden, out of justice, Adam and Eve acting upon Satan’s temptation, God out of MERCY then sending His Son to redeem the world. Not out of calculus.
To add, it is true that when we are outside of Eden, this is because we have taken ourselves there with God’s ordered universe in place that has such corrections for our own benefit; and, of course, Hell is a place we send ourselves to. We fall to Hell. God doesn’t kick us into Hell. While, in Genesis, Satan’s fall from Heaven and Adam and Eve’s betrayal are so unfathomably ground-shaking that God Himself is seen to intervene. Still, God respects His own ordered Creation and His own Holy Will. Satan cannot reach Heaven again because he made a one-in-an-eternity decision in relation to his own fundamentally angelic nature and which set him on an eternally evil course, while Adam and Eve’s betrayal had God respond with mercy…because God according to our human nature in respect of His Creation and Holy Will was given to do so. Just as God responded to Abraham when Sodom and Gomorrah were misbehaving in abhorrent fashion.
Peace to all,
Eve ate from the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil becoming to know choice becomes to love or to love not removed from the garden, not to contaminate heaven away from the tree of life, OMNiLogically.
Peace always,
Stephen Andrew
As for: ‘Mary worship in the Catholic Church’. This is a protestantized question.
Catholics devote themselves to Our Lady as devout sons and daughters in Christ and of Our Lady who is Mother to the Church. Hyper-dulia is similar to worship in many respects and God wouldn’t have it any other way. Our Lady would have something to say were people to literally worship her in place of God as she is all for her Son. If you don’t like this, join a different Church or more likely stay where you are because quite frankly it’s rude.
Peace to all,
Protestants use the same Trinity logic as Mennonites and Amish. The fail and Trinity logic is not seeing the Holy Spirit as a family the correct Trinity logic is the Holy Spirit family is one God and being from three God’s pre-existing.
I’m not arguing the faith of the Catholic Church just the logic.
And true we’ve venerate Mary do not worship. Her.
Peace always,
Stephen A
Catholics venerate the saints as well as holy relics and statues; to Our Lady, there is devotion and which is more than dulia and which is what Catholics give to the saints as Our Lady is Mother of the saints.
Protestants, similar to rationalists and modernists, do not seek to enter into knowledge of God’s mysteries and therefore on many levels, explicitly, the dogmas of the Church. Pretty much their own religion. Ecumenism can, by and large, be something of a pretence.
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Peace to all,
So true, Protestants came from Martin and Philip, his helper who spoke with a lisp. Martin had issues with indulgences sold for money and expanded from there to include separation from Catholism. The Revolution went too far and never should have happened other than Catholisim would have resolved through the Moses Seat if there was given more time, I believe.
What Martin did logically was separate from Sacrifice through becoming forgiven in Confession in hearing the Words of Absolution becoming forgiven in Penance through the Host, The Body, Blood, Souls and Divinity of the Holy Family becoming again for all In One Family One God in being, OMNiLogically.
I always speak from logic trusted and verified from the logical formulas through the Wondrous Mysteries in the Catholic Faith becoming again for all Creation in One God in being.
Each Sacrament logically has a feature benefit for becoming transformed from created failed becoming glorified becoming again through two natures transfigured in One God in being, OMNiLogically. I have the logical solutions from the Faith of Abraham becoming again for all Cration in One God in being.
Peace always,
Stephen Andrew
Lk1:37 For nothing will be impossible with God."The angles are only messenger,but they carry the words of the Father ,Hail full of Grace Lk1:28.If God said about the words to the prophet Jeremiah how much more to Mother Mary,thus she is the immaculate conception at her birth and forever immaculate.
Jeremiah 1:5 “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you,and before you were born I consecrated you;I appointed you a prophet to the nations.”.
Song of Solomon 4:12 A garden locked is my sister, my bride,a garden locked, a fountain sealed.
Pax
Peace to all,
Transformed is all mankind created failed becoming into the Catholic Church in the living waters becoming immaculate immortality from Holy Spirit Family incorruption through the New Eve, Mary existed before creation as mother of God, proving the Queen of Heaven God, but who needs proof.
The angels knew of the becoming power of flesh through the Christ from out of the Bosom of Abraham, becoming again for all creation transfigured in one Holy Spirit, family one God in being in heaven.
Peace always,
mystic Stephen Andrew
Trinity OMNilogician
There is no greater work even possible than for the salvation of souls