I’ve heard a lot of the arguments for Mary’s perpetual virginity … and for the most part, they are pretty convincing.
The only part I find hard to swallow is there doesn’t seem to be any president (that I can find) of a married couple taking a permanent vow of celibacy anywhere in the Bible. The very idea of celibate marriage seems an oxymoron, in fact (since isn’t that the point of marriage in the first place?).
Also … in Paul’s letters there seems to be clear “marital duty” to one another. Did Mary and Joseph break that duty?
The Christ is from Mary through Jesus and is the spiritual marriage combining through Immaculate Immortality from Holy Spirit Incorruption becoming The Christ in all mankind. I believe.
Well, I don’t know much about Mary other than she was the Mother of God and was immaculately conceived.
But what I will tell you is this: Virgin births are real. They did a study of a group of women. And all these women were told to do was to visualize having a baby and to pretend they already have one, and what it would look like. And the study ran for about a month or 2 and these women got pregnant. Virgin births are real. I’ll have to see if I can’t bring up that study, truly fascinating stuff.
So true, EarthsStudent and logcially Virgin Birth is through the New Eve from Holy Spirit Family Conception for Jesus becoming the New Adam becoming the Christ for all from souls preexisting not requiring blood and water birth to earth because of preexistence, I believe.
Mary was protected and The Bride of Jesus in His Passion becoming the Two Nature Christ in all mankind, and never touched by man OMNiLigically assending into heaven sanctified incorruptible and immortal from The Immaculate Conception in the New Eve for The Catholic Church becoming again glorified and transfigured from where Mary came in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, I believe.
The story has had considerable importance in the development of Roman Catholic theology. My thoughts that it is very likely that it was Mary, The Mother of God through the Immaculate Conception who was being married.
Rationally OMNiLogic identifies the unnamed bridegroom. OMNiLogic holds that the bridegroom is Jesus, a tradition that Born of a Woman that the event was the wedding of The New Adam, Jesus himself to Mary, in the New Eve.
The power of Mary’s intercession. This first miracle, which confirmed the faith of our Lord’s disciples, was wrought at Mary’s intercession, for it was by her persuasion that He first manifested His glory by a striking miracle at Cana instead of at Jerusalem. Let us contemplate Mary’s compassion on the distress of the poor bride and bridegroom, her living faith in the omnipotence of Jesus, and her confidence in His goodness.
Matrimony. By His presence at the marriage-feast of Cana Jesus honoured and sanctified marriage, which had already been instituted in Paradise.
Lawful pleasures. The fact of our Lord taking part in the marriage-feast teaches us that it is lawful and pleasing to God that we should take part in innocent recreations and harmless pleasures, rejoicing with those who rejoice.
Lawful pleasures. The fact of our Lord taking part in the marriage-feast teaches us that it is lawful and pleasing to God that we should take part in innocent recreations and harmless pleasures, rejoicing with those who rejoice.
The Public Ministry and Pentecost of the Christ becoming from Holy Spirit Incorruption through the flesh of the Immaculate Conception in One Marriage Body through two natures from the spirit through the flesh married and together becoming the Christ in all mankind.
When his mother advises Jesus that their hosts are running out of wine, he says “Woman, what has this to do with me?” Logically of Genesis 3:15 “I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers”,[h] marking the commencement of Jesus’ redemptive ministry.[5] Jesus will again address her as “Woman” in John 19:26,[i] when he entrusts his mother to all disciples from the cross, like Jesus, when Jesus says on the Cross, “Woman, behold, your son.”[3] We become through our own personal Christ for all mankind becoming again in all One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.
these women were told to do was to visualize having a baby and to pretend they already have one, and what it would look like.
The Christ is from Mary through Jesus and is the spiritual marriage combining through Immaculate Immortality from Holy Spirit Incorruption becoming The Christ in all mankind becoming again in all One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, I believe, OMNiLogically.
Right, it’s not in the Bible. Mary’s perpetual virginity is a Catholic dogma (a required belief). I think that anything further, such as a perpetual vow of chastity, is something added to the story. For that matter, her perpetual virginity isn’t in the Bible either, but not all dogmas are.
To me celebacy and spiritual marriage are two different things, logically. And Mary is protected as the Bride of Jesus, I believe.
Spiritual marriage transubstantiates through The Immaculate Immortality from The Eternal Priestly Authority becoming from “The Word,” the logical infallible undeflied intelligence becoming in the flesh becoming One Body for all through Mary for Jesus through The Host, the Body Blood, Soul and Divinity of God through the Christ, OMNiLogically.
The Wedding of Cana is The Spiritual Marriage between the Immaculate Conception, Mary and The Eternal Priestly Authority, Jesus, between Baptized flesh immortality and Holy Spirit Incorruption becoming One Christ Body from Sacrifice through Penance forgiven for all becoming again in all One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.
“Listen to Him,” Mary always says, from the Catholic Church, For Jesus to go public, He had to be married through the Immaculate Conception from Holy Spirit Incorruption becoming One Christ Body for all becoming the Christ becoming again in all One God.
Logically chastity involves the Human marriage of flesh from the dspirit nature involving chastity in all mankind.
Firstly, only Mary conceived by God the Holy Spirit, and only Mary and Joseph were the human Parents of God the Word Incarnate (the Most Holy and Pure Eternal Being), which means They didn’t have an average ancient Jewish marriage and family. And, if God the Word incarnating Himself as a human isn’t hard to swallow, why is it hard to swallow the idea that His chosen Mother and putative Father, Mary and Joseph, were chaste in their marriage for God, especially considering ancient Jews were not forbidden from practicing chastity within marriage?
Secondly, little is known about Mary and Joseph in Scripture, both as individuals and as each other’s Spouses. However, Jesus did make Their lives more known, in part, by taking recourse to visions. He showed Maria Valtorta visions of scenes of Their lives and she described what she saw and heard. And, according to Maria’s accounts, Mary was of the stock of David and Aaron, a Virgin of the Temple from the age of 3 to 15, and was orphaned around the age of 4 or 5. When Mary was 15, the High Priest informed Her that since She was now a woman, it was time for Her to be given to a man of Her own stock and bear a son to the Lord, according to the Law. At hearing his words, Mary’s eyes began to shine with tears, and then Anna of Phanuel explained to the High Priest that Mary had already consecrated Herself to the Lord for His glory and for the salvation of Israel. Below are excerpts of how the conversation between the High Priest and Mary ended:
« Is that why You are crying then? Not because You wish to resist the Law? »
« Just for that… nothing else. I shall obey you, Priest of God. »
« This confirms what I have always been told of You. How long have You been consecrated to the Lord? »
« I have always been, I think. I was not yet in this Temple, and I had already given Myself to the Lord. »
Now I obey you, o Priest. But please tell Me how I am to behave… I have neither father nor mother. Please be My guide. »
« God will give You Your husband and he will be a holy man, because You have entrusted Yourself to God. You will tell him Your vow. »
« And will he agree? »
« I hope so. Pray, my child, that he may understand Your heart. Go now. May God always accompany You.»
Mary withdraws with Anna. Zacharias stays with the High Priest. The vision ends thus.
Following this, the High Priest gathered at the Temple men of the race of David, and said the following to them:
The Lord has spoken, glory be to Him! From His Glory a ray has descended and, like the sun in springtime, it has given life to a dry branch which has blossomed miraculously, whereas no other branch on earth is in bloom to-day, the last day of the Feast of Dedication, and the snow that fell on the mountains in Judah has not yet melted and everything is white between Zion and Bethany. God has spoken and has made Himself the father and the guardian of the Virgin of David Who has Him alone as Her protection. A holy girl, the glory of the Temple, She deserved the word of God to learn the name of a husband agreeable to the Eternal One. And he must be very just to be chosen by the Lord as the protector of the Virgin so dear to Him! For this reason our sorrow in losing Her is alleviated and all worries about Her destiny as a wife cease. And to the man appointed by God we entrust with full confidence the Virgin blessed by God and by ourselves. The name of the husband is Joseph of Jacob of Bethlehem, of the tribe of David, a carpenter in Nazareth in Galilee. Joseph: come forward. It is an order of the High Priest …»
Below is an excerpt of the conversation between Mary and Her betrothed, Joseph, during their first meeting:
But I was not expecting to be the chosen one as I am a Nazirite (see Num. 6) and I have obeyed because it is an order of the Priest, not because I wish to get married. Here is the branch, Mary. With it I offer You my heart, that, like it, has bloomed up till now only for the Lord and is now blooming for You, my spouse. »
Mary takes the branch. She is moved and looks at Joseph with a face that has become more and more confident and bright. She feels certain of him. When he says to Her « I am a Nazirite », Her face becomes bright and She takes courage: « Also I am all of the Lord, Joseph. I do not know whether the High Priest told you …»
« He only told me that You are good and pure, that You wish to inform me of a vow, and that I must be good to you. Speak, Mary. Your Joseph wants You to be happy in all Your desires. I do not love You my with body. I love You with my soul, holy girl given to me by God! Please see in me a father and a brother, in addition to a husband. And open Your heart to me as to a father and rely on me as on a brother …»
« Since My childhood I have consecrated Myself to the Lord. I know this is not the custom in Israel. But I heard a voice requesting My virginity as a sacrifice of love for the coming of the Messiah. Israel has been waiting for Him for such a long time!.. It is not too much to forgo the joy of being a mother for that! »
Joseph gazes at Her as if he wanted to read Her heart, then he takes Her tiny hands which are still holding the branch in blossom and he says: « I will join my sacrifice to Yours and we shall love the Eternal Father so much with our chastity that He will send His Saviour to the world earlier, and will allow us to see His Light shining in the world.
Below is an excerpt of a conversation Joseph had with Mary on their wedding day:
« I have pondered a lot on Your vow these last days. I told You that I will share it with You. But the more I think of it, the more I realise that a temporary Naziritism is not sufficient, even if renewed several times. I have understood You, Mary. I do not yet deserve the word of Light, but a murmur of it comes to me. And it causes me to read Your secret, at least in its main lines. I am a poor ignorant man, Mary. A poor workman. I know nothing of letters and I have no treasures. But I place at Your feet my treasure: my absolute chastity, forever, to be worthy of being beside You, Virgin of God, “my sister spouse, enclosed garden, sealed fountain,” as our Ancestor says, who perhaps wrote the Song of Songs seeing You… I shall be the guardian of this garden of spices in which are the most precious fruits and from which a spring of living water gushes out in a gentle surge: Your kindness, o spouse, has conquered my soul with Your innocence, o most beautiful one. You are more beautiful than dawn, You are a sun that shines because Your heart shines, You are full of love for Your God and for the world, to which You wish to give a Saviour with Your sacrifice of a woman. Come, my beloved spouse » and he takes Her gently by the hand and leads Her towards the door. All the others follow them and outside the joyful companions, all dressed in white and wearing veils, join them.
You can receive a more in-depth look into Mary’s birth and childhood, Joseph and Mary’s first meeting, betrothal, wedding, and early life with Jesus in The Poem of the Man-God: Vol. 1.
Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit.
Always Sacred and always together in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being is Mary from the Annunciation becoming through the Immaculate Conception for the transformed New Eve becoming in all.
“But I place at Your feet my treasure: my absolute chastity, forever, to be worthy of being beside You, Virgin of God, “my sister spouse, enclosed garden, sealed fountain,” as our Ancestor says, who perhaps wrote the Song of Songs seeing You… I shall be the guardian of this garden of spices in which are the most precious fruits and from which a spring of living water gushes out in a gentle surge: Your kindness, o spouse, has conquered my soul with Your innocence, o most beautiful one. You are more beautiful than dawn, You are a sun that shines because Your heart shines, You are full of love for Your God and for the world, to which You wish to give a Saviour with Your sacrifice of a woman. Come, my beloved spouse » and he takes Her gently by the hand and leads Her towards the door. All the others follow them and outside the joyful companions, all dressed in white and wearing veils, join them.” From Jesus through the Words of Joseph in the Pen of Maria Valtorta
Co-Redemption is becoming into the New Temple and is through the immaculate flesh nature becoming immortality from the Power of the Holy Spirit becoming the New Eve in all mankind becoming brothers and sisters in all.
Mary always existed in undeflied logical intelligence never failing and in only One Way always together in the Holy Spirit Family One God in being From the Father through The Mother for The Son becoming The Christ for all mankind becoming again for all Creation in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.
Mary existed befored creation in logical undeflied intelligence from the Power of the Holy Spirit becoming through sanctified Immaculate Immortality from Holy Spirit Incurruption becoming in the New Eve for all becoming Baptized brothers and sisters for all through the Christ becoming through Sacrifice for Penance and forgiven becoming again Sons and Daughters of God in the Catholic Church.
The Fifth Day in the Octave of Christmas
This man was righteous and devout,
awaiting the consolation of Israel,
and the Holy Spirit was upon him.
It had been revealed to him by the Holy Spirit
that he should not see death
before he had seen the Christ of the Lord.
Romans 11:36
36 For from him and through him and for him are all things.
In him be the glory forever! Amen.
The Christ is Two Gods, Mary and Jesus becoming One Christ Body in all becoming again One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, OMNiLogically.
Glory be From The Father through both the Mother and for The Son becoming through the One Christ Body for all becoming again in all One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.
Based on biblical, traditional, and historical interpretations, Jesus’ cousins—often referred to as his “brothers” (adelphos) in the Gospels—are commonly identified as James the Less, Joseph (Joses), Simon, and Jude (Judas). They are considered the sons of Clopas and “the other Mary” (a sister or sister-in-law to the Virgin Mary).
Peace to all,
Saint John the Baptist is no longer Jesus’ Cousin just as Isaac and Ishmael are brothers to each other yet cousins to all mankind becoming for all brothers and sisters through the New Eve becoming for Jesus Virgin Born in the New Adam becoming through the Christ for all Sons and Daughters of God from One Father through One Mother for One Son becoming becoming again for all Creation in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.
