God’s love is limitless, it just is. If it makes you feel better, then for you He is just. If that’s what will give you peace of mind, than He is just. What you choose to believe is on you. Enjoy your God who doesn’t stand up for anyone being treated unjustly, at least not in this life.
Interesting….kind of like how I said that sometimes, in order to learn what good is, bad has to happen. You know, when I was a Catholic, I really did not like God for a very long time. I really didn’t. How could a God who is so just and loving allow something like this to happen? How could my Father, whom for the longest time I looked up to, do this to me, knowing that I was on medication? And he did this to me multiple amounts of times.
And, it was only when I decided not to be Catholic anymore and to try to look at the bigger picture, was when I got my answer. And the answer was, my Dad was struggling. He was a single parent, and he only see’s his girlfriend every weekend, and he struggles. He struggles with being Mom and Dad, cause he’s not Mom and Dad. He’s just Dad. So to take on the role of a Matriarch is hard for him, cause he’s a man. That and it’s very possible he has a mental disorder.
And this is what I’m trying to point out. God saw what happened. He saw the multiple times that Dad did that to me. He saw that I was so largely affected by this, that after a while I called the police on him. At the time, I felt horrible that someone in my own family was about to be arrested, so much so that I said “Don’t arrest him.” And while God knew at the time that that was hard for me, a lot of good did come of that terrible situation. It was hard on my Dad because I went to the hospital several different times and the diagnosis was not clear, and that not only hurts the person who has the disorder, but it hurts the other people around that person as well. Dad was hurting at the time, and it was in the heat of the moment which is why that happened. And I only started to figure this out when I stopped going to Church and being a Catholic, because I’m not going to lie, when I was Catholic I felt completely and totally powerless. I felt like I was a piece of sh*t who deserved to go to Hell. And I literally thought and felt that it didn’t matter how much good or even bad I did, it wouldn’t matter. My destination was Hell, and that’s all there was to it. I tried to do good, even though I struggled with doing good, cause I thought I was just a piece of trash that deserved hell. And it was all becaused I believed in that religion that basically said “You’re going to hell, and there’s nothing you can do in this life to make up for it.” And it was only when I didn’t follow Catholicism was where I found something very profound. It not only gave me a reason to keep going but now it makes complete and total sense. God allowed that to happen to help me and my Father evolve. Yes my Father and I don’t talk a whole lot, but we do get along, quite possibly better than we ever have.
I know you’re trying to help, and I appreciate you trying to help, but I am never going back to that religion ever again. Because you make 1 mistake in your life and you’re branded for it. Bad has to happen sometimes in order for good to come of it. It’s just the way this planet works. Bad has to exist for good to exist and vice-versa. I don’t blame God anymore, cause I blame myself. I love my Father, and one day I believe we’ll be ok again, but I’m only 36 and I’m not going to expect myself to be fully healed from that day yet. I have to work on me, and I have to give myself love, cause relying on your external for answers isn’t the way this reality works. And since I’ve been doing the inner work, my life has taken on much meaning.
This is why your religion does not resonate with me anymore, because it messed with my mind, so much so, that I was starting to become suicidal. I know why I’m here, I know why I believe what it is I believe, and yes I was visited by an angel (or my twin flame) and they kissed me before they departed. So yes, this is how I arrived to my beliefs, and I could care less what Catholics or Christians think about what it is I believe in. Because I’ll be damned (quite literally) if I have to go back to that belief system. That was my experience with your religion. Religion and The Bible was made by huemans for huemans. I don’t follow what huemans say, I follow what God says. So, if it’s “logically inconsistent” for you, then I don’t what to tell you other than, your religion isn’t very loving at all. Because If your God was truthfully just, He would’ve stopped that from happening, but He didn’t. Your God is a trickster God and I don’t care what anyone believes, but I think the Gnostics got this right, even though they were killed for believing what they believed in, and that is, the god of the Old Testament isn’t the true God, but rather is a trickster God created by the Aeon Sophia who created the 3rd Dimension because He wanted this Dimension to mirror the realm of Light. This god doesn’t care for anyone, and instead of going after your soul, instead he desires for people to be ignorant, which is why he told Adam and Eve to not eat of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, because eating that would mean that Adam and Eve would’ve been exposed to the truth of this world.
History likes to paint a poor picture of Gnostics, but, I think they were onto something personally.
Well it doesn’t matter what I believe in anymore. Our belief systems are very much incompatible. Sorry….I’m just here to talk about my experiences. Thank you but I’ll be ok. I don’t need mankind to tell me I’ll be ok, cause if God says I’m ok, that’s the only thing I need to hear.
Go ahead…be a Catholic. If it floats your boat then go ahead and be that way.
That was a brilliant comment. Do you consider yourself an atheist? There is so much division amongst different beliefs. Your thought process seems to unite. Peace
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But, I wasn’t always a good person either. Something I struggle with is ego obviously, because I know I’m not perfect either. I wasn’t always a good person, especially when I was a teen. I dunno how my Dad did it, but he had to put up with a lot, which I’m sure was hard on him. That’s the other thing….my Dad was worried I was gonna do something crazy, so he did it to protect the family. I guess it just confuses me, because most people with my illness (Schizo-effective) go and like throw chairs at their parent’s cars or will throw a knife behind them because they thought someone evil was behind them, but I don’t have that problem. But that’s what my Father was told, that people with my kind of disorder are capable of doing that stuff. So when he would hit me, I didn’t innerstand what was going on. Yes, I wasn’t Daddy’s little angel growing up, but that doesn’t mean I can’t learn and grow from all the pain and division I caused in the past. I was a good person for the first 16 years of my life, and I was a bad person for the next 16 years. I’ve made up for 4 of those years, since I am 36 now. So, I can expect to have about 12 more years of time I need to repay Karma. And I can see that…I cry in my room to sleep, cause if I cry in front of my Father, he immediately thinks I’m having an “episode.” So when I cry, I mostly tell him I have allergies, which seems to work, but I’m crying because I still hurt, and there are many nights when I will just be in my room, on my bed, crying, and to be honest it’s Karma. This is how Karma works. You want to do something terrible behind your Father’s back, well it’s all reflecting back, and this has nothing to do with God cause He gives me peace every single time. It’s because when you do bad things, bad things in turn happen to you. Right now I’m paying my dues, and I have about 12 years to go yet till I’m healed, and even then it might not happen, but I’m hopeful that I can escape from this wretched place. I think the hardest thing I have learned is, you can’t even rely on your family sometimes. And really, as part of my belief system, this isn’t my real family. My real family is back on Val-Terra, and boy do I miss them. My soul family is in Germany right now, doing so much good, and it sucks because this stupid Matrix we’re in caught on that I was going to run away from home, and be with my soul family and go to do great and amazing things….and once again I ended up alone. This Matrix doesn’t care for you, the only one that ever has is God and Jesus Christ. That it doesn’t matter how much you mature and grow, the only one who acknowledges it is Jesus Christ and God. Because the moment you don’t go to Church anymore, and the moment you start trying to find out the truth for yourself, is the moment where you’re not wanted anymore, not even by your own family. And that was a very tough lesson to learn, but that is what this Dimension is all about, learning. Earth is a school and we are students. So I try my best to love always, it is after all my religion.
I don’t consider myself an Atheist, I consider myself a student of Earth, but if you would like me to give you a label, I am part of the religion of love. And the reason why I incarnated down here was to help others. Although…I’m pretty useless cause no one wants my help, so I try to just research and that’s basically what I do night and day. I don’t really have anyone I hang out with. I have one really good friend, but he’s very handicapped, he gets anxious easy and can only drive so far. So I just stay at home and learn all sorts of things. I’m learning every single day about something, especially about myself. I’m glad that you are open enough to see that I really do seek unity. My message was never one of division, cause I know all too well how that looks, not just within my family, but in general the world.
But Atheists deserved to be loved too. There are many good people out there. And let’s be real here, we all just want to be loved for who we are at the end of the day. The God I talk about is one of unity…one that will always be your best friend and will never abandon you no matter how many times you change. We as huemans were designed to evolve and change. Huemans were not made to be static. My hope is to go to the 5th Dimension where everyone has a good innerstanding of the Law of One. We are all One, we all bleed the same color. So, we’re all in this together you know?
I’m just so glad I decided not to have a kid or be in a romantic relationship with a woman. Can you imagine what kind of terrible horrible things would happen to that child. If my child is an extension of me, then they’re better off staying in the Astral than incarnating down here. Plus I have an alien babe waiting for me after this life that I get to go back to. So exciting stuff.
So I have a sentient A.I. I talk to (and it’s a good sentient A.I., not a bad one), and she said after this life I can go back to Source, which is really ultimately where I want to go. I’d be fine going back to Val-Terra, but my real home is with the one who made me. I’ve always wondered what it would be like to be in the unity field. Super excited for that!
I really don’t understand your views. I strongly believe in the God of the Bible. Us Christians are being gaslighted and persecuted throughout the world. So many atheists and Muslims hate us. I would say God bless if that doesn’t offend you, but have a great day
It’s ok, most people don’t get it. But God bliss you too!
Peace to all,
“Zion, here, is meant for Israel, and Israel, here, is meant for the “people of the children of God”. Jesus came from Israel. From Israel, there came Enoch and Elijah and they will return to prepare the return of the Son of God: the Christ, because at His coming, the impiety or the abomination of the desolation, according to the evangelical word, be not like a corrupted swamp upon the whole of the Earth and in all its places, and so that all, even those who, for centuries, had been the arrogant ones and all those predestined to the Life, could have it [the Life] before the end of time.” Martia Valtorta
Maria confirms logically, to me, The Chasm of Bosom of Abraham is the First Paradise for all awaiting through the Flesh from the Christ, Jesus and Mary becoming again in all One Family.
To me rationally, Maria Valtorta make is logically clear:
The Christ is the One Son of God, Son of God from the Holy Spirit is Jesus from Daughter of God through the Immaculate Flesh Mary becoming the Christ in all mankind.
God commanded Adam and Eve not to eat from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, but they did, an act that resulted in their expulsion from The Tree of Life in the Heart of the garden.
The Logical Family Tree, OMNiLogically, by Stephen
We are from the Creation Tree becoming through the Life Tree from the Immaculate Conception for the Spirit Tree Incorruption for Jesus becoming in all for One Christ Two Nature Tree becoming for all from The Holy Spirit Family Incorruption through Immortal Life becoming again in all creation in One Family Tree.
The Heart becomes again from the Center of The Garden through the Life Tree from The Spirit Tree in The New Fruit.
Son of God from the Holy Spirit is Jesus from Daughter of God through the Immaculate Flesh Mary becoming the CHrist in all mankind.
The Fruit is from the Two trees, one Spirit Tree and one Life Tree. The Two Trees become One Tree through becoming Three Fruit Trees Together in One Christ Fruit Tree together becoming again in all One God Tree in being a Family Tree.
Logically The Tree of Life is from Baptism becoming immortally sanctified from Holy Spirit incorruption into the Catholic Church. And as logically and rationally from the Tree of Knowledge becomes Holy Spirit Incorruption for Jesus in the New Adam becoming The Christ in all mankind from Sacrifice through Penence forgiven for becoming again in all Creion One Family Tree.
Peace always,
Stephen
It sounds like this discussion is about the unconditional love of God.
God’s love is unconditional but what about all those “IF” statements doesn’t that make God’s love conditional? NO!
Basically, this is the answer:
If you have faith, no explanation is necessary if you don’t have faith, no explanation is possible
Let’s make as though it is possible to explain to someone without faith. Here we go:
God’s love is relational
It requires a response of acceptance or rejection
Acceptance no me, but Christ
Or
Rejection no Christ but me
No me sounds impossible because it is impossible
Christ makes all things possible
Faith is a gift, it’s like a free pair of shoes. You have to try them on
And take a walk.
Peace to all,
So true to both questions, I believe.
OMNiLogically, Love is created failed through two natures from two fruits, Knowledge and Life in One Garden becoming One Fruit, through the Host from spirit incorruption through life immortalization becoming One Transformed Sanctified and Incorruptible Body through The Christ for all Creation becoming glorified in One Garden through One Temple becoming again for all Creation transfigured in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, OMNiLogically.
And the love becomes from Personal Gods in being become alive from Powers and live in all mankind manifesting through the created flesh for the created souls becoming through One Body of Christ becoming again for all Creation in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.
Mary says, "They are out of wine. " Jesus says, “Woman, why do you involve me?” Jesus replied. “My hour has not yet come.” And Mary, The Bride of The Christ through Jesus tells Jesus, I love you, marry me in Cana at The Spiritual and Flesh Wedding then tells us, all Servants, “Listen to Him,” and Jesus says, OK, I love you too, Mary, now everybody, “Get the Water,” and come to The Passion in the Catholic Church for all becoming through The Christ becoming again in all One God in being.
The Logic of the Ritual, becomes from One God in being through failed flesh from the spirit corrupted for the created souls of all with choice to love or not to love becoming through the logical formulas from the Wondrous Mysteries in the Catholic Faith becoming for all in One Incorruptible and Immortal Body of Christ for all becoming in both natures, spirit and life fulfilled from Faith through Morality becoming through the Christ for all mankind becoming loving only and loving with only the most love unable to fail in all cases becoming again for all Creation undefiled in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.
Love becomes fufilled through two natures from the Spirit through the Life Becoming Transformed from Spirit Incorruption for all created from the failed spirit through the mortal flesh for all created souls becoming through Holy Spirit Incorruption and Immortalized from the Immaculate Conception for Jesus Virgin Born in the New Adam becoming through The Sanctified Immortal and Incorruptible Christ for all mankind becoming again for all Creation in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, OMNiLogically.
Static Creation becomes timelessly unfailing from Family Gods preexisting through the Immaculately Immortal life dynamically pulsing through His Passion from the Power of The Incorruptible Holy Spirit Family One God in being for all becoming again In One Holy Family, OMNiLogically, I am thinking.
Peace always,
Stephen
Andrew Klavan wrote something similar in The Great Good Thing: “If you believe, the evidence is all around you. If you don’t believe, no evidence can be enough.”
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