Peace to all,
So so true, Mike,
Logically, until we see the Holy Spirit as The Family of God and understand the Mother has always been together with the Father and the Son in One Family, OMNILogically, faithful understanding is all that is possible, and all we need, I believe.
But OMNILogically? The Family of One God One Holy Spirit Family is from three Gods, I believe.
The two Sacraments from death to life are Baptism and Penance, Baptism transforms flesh immortal from The New Eve allowing death through the Baptized New Eve becoming resurrection from Penance through Sacrifice forgiven in all mankind in the New Adam for Jesus through the Christ in all mankind becoming immortally glorified and incorruptibly transfigured completing Transubstantiation’s logical formulas becoming in all through two natures, Spirit and Life, in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, OMNILogically, i believe and I say quite off the cuff, I can go deeper into detail more logically for any further questions, I believe.
I believe Logically visible God is through or by contact of all or even any of the senses through The Host, the “Chosen” fufilled New Living Sacrifice resurrects through two natures becoming transforming glorifying and transfiguration for all becoming again from Transubstatiations logical formulas through The Host, the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of God becoming as One God and Family, I believe.
To me, rationally, The true essence and the spirit of the Holy Family are transubstantiated in all through both natures true essence spiritually and outward characteristics through the flesh becoming again in all One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, I believe.
What is your logical take on OMNILogic? Anyone? Don’t be shy?
Peace always,
Stephen
Only God spirit can help you, Stephen.
From the moment of birth, we begin dying. It just takes some time. The truth is that for the soul, there is never birth nor death. And the next truth is that we are not these material bodies. We are pure spirit soul, temporarily embodied in a material container. And one who identifies with the material container, the material vehicle as “me”, that soul is in illusion.
Spirit is conscious. Matter is not. Sprit is alive. Matter is dead. What is this body? Approximately 80% water, and some other material elements. Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. When the spirit soul resides in a material body, the consciousness of the spirit soul is experiences itself through the material form. This causes the spirit soul to identify with the body as “me”, and to seek satisfaction in life through the demands of the flesh. This the enslavement of the spirit in the service of Mammon. The more any of the saints in history advanced in spiritual revelation, the immediate symptom is that they became progressively indifferent to the demands of the flesh. Why? Because they began to experience the pleasure of the spirit, and began to hanker only for that pleasure. One who has not had this experience, has hardly begun his spiritual journey, whether he calls himself a Catholic or not.
For the spirit there is not death. The spirit is eternal, without birth and without death. The body was never alive. It only seems to be alive as long as the spirit resides within it. As soon as the spirit departs, we see the true nature of the material body. No one wants to embrace it.
What we call death, is nothing more than the passing away of the eternal spirit soul, from the dead material container. But because we identify with the material body as “me”, we think that the body is the person. And therefore we think that the “person” has died. The soul is eternal. It never dies. We are not this material form. We are eternal spirit souls.
What REALLY is DEATH? There is really no such thing. The body was never alive. And the soul never dies.
There is one verse in scripture. God is saying, “Before you were born, I knew you.” We existed as individual beings before we entered this material form.
Peace be to all.
In Galatians 2:20, St. Paul says, “it is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me.”, this is a beautiful quote from the Bible and it also touches base on the subject at hand about death.
Why death? As Catholics we are called to live for Christ and all biblical evidence suggests to live for Christ one must first die to self. This does not mean a physical death but an otherworldly death of spiritual pride to be reborn again to follow the right path of spirituality which always leads to Christ.
Take Revelation 2:10, it is written, “Be faithful unto death, and I will give you the crown of life.”, this can be interpreted literally where if you are martyred for Christ you will go to heaven, as well as symbolically that if you are born again in Christ you will have received the crown of life which Christ is himself.
These verses point to two realities in life: a reality in which we are alive and a reality in which we are dead. Now a little bit about what’s not written, that everyone who knows Christ who is life itself is saved and are recipients of life, only one of the two thieves at the time of crucifixion was saved but both knew Christ and only one opened heart to Christ.
So, what is death? As Catholics we have already experienced that at some point in our life because before we were saved when we were alive without Christ we were in fact dead, we do not remember it because it scales in comparison to life with Christ who himself is life, love and everything in-between.
When we die, physically we are inanimate, our bodies decay and we return back to soil, that much is obvious. However, spiritually, we are eternal and our souls live forever, which brings into question as you’ve rightfully asked, what exactly happens at death? It’s beautiful beyond comprehension what really happens after death. If you imagine the state of your own soul when you were dead without Christ and then simply inverse it now you are no longer dead but alive with Christ in perfect union in a state of eternal bliss. This complete union only happens at the time of each and every one of our deaths.
We will of course be cleansed in purgatory beforehand therefore our eternal souls will perpetuate forever and we will be perfectly unified with Christ, joyous, blissful, and complete union. That’s what really happens after death.
Peace to all,
To me, logically the soul is Holy Spirit created from blood and water birth through the created also flesh. We are created through two natures in One Body, I believe.
To me, The Christ is OMNILogically more than Jesus. The Christ is Jesus logically coneceived, from the Power.
The Spirit becomes again in all One Body, I believe.
Peace always,
Stephen
I think that everyone who has died truly knows whether there is a heaven. @Jacques said he thinks nobody really knows.
Peace to all,
So true Literalman, maybe so true.
We always ask and never truly know?
Perhaps, as Disciples we have already been told?
To my thinking, All mankind becomes Sons and Daughters of God through The Christ, Our Brother, Son of Man from Heaven, we, all mankind has the logical Same Father as Jesus making us all sons and daughters of God, The Father, Man from Heaven through Mary, The New Eve in all transformed immaculate immortality from Our Mother for The Son in all, OMNILogically, I believe, through all generalizations, rationally thinking.
To my thinking, I believe, an example of Co-redemption through Lord Mary, the First Disciple in the Chrsit, the First Chrst, on earth in “The Mind of God”, when Mary says, “Let it, logical undefiled intelligence, flesh and spirit, become to me Your Will not my will” making Mary through the Annunciation Sanctified Immortally and incorruptibly through the Power of The Holy Spirit in Mary’s soul for the Immaculate Conception and God of Mercy and The Mother of God. And through the Power of the Divine Family, OMNILogically delivered to earth is through the Logical formulas of the Wondrous Mysteries through the Faith of Catholicism and is Arked to earth from the undefiled logical intelligence in “The Mind of God” becoming through the Immaculate Conception through the Body through the flesh and spirit in the soul of the New Eve becoming through all mankind becoming flesh immortality for all becoming again, through the manifesting logic becoming through all in One God, I believe.
Becoming from the Gods of Trinity Family Powers in all mankind and angels, all is creation becoming alive in mankind all living inside of us through flesh and spirit transformation in two natures, Spirit and Life, becoming One New Eve Body through Mary becoming immortal glorification and incorruptible transfiguration through The New Adam, Jesus becoming The Christ in all mankind becoming again loving only and loving with only the most love in all One Undeflied Two Nature Divine Family, Statically unfailing forever yet dynamically pulsing through His Passion forever and ever through Two Natures in One Family, OMNILogicalGod, I believe.
Jesus answered speaking about whom? Pointing to whom? I believe, logically Jesus is pointing to all disciples, pointing to all discilpes He loves with only the most love, never dying, Jesus always saying, “What is it to you, if I want him to live until I return? You must follow me,” I believe.
Maybe even death itself wanted eternal life for all through two natures by telling the truth and a lie in the same sentenance, and what a liar he is “Surely you will never die?” that is never dying of the Spirit, becoming alive again for both natures through the flesh, in One Two Nature Family Body, I believe.
Peace always,
Stephen