How Can we see the Trinity

Peace to all,

So true, David, through faith we become to know God is good and to logically understand how good we must logically be able to understand The Mind of God becoming again in all.

Logically, to me Jesus came to remove all contentions making all equal heirs to the same Throne, The New Heaven and Earth through The New Body , our living temple becoming again in all through the Christ. He came to unite all as one in being created From One Father transformed Baptized through One Mother for One Son in the Christ in all mankind from Sacrifice through Penance, forgiven becoming again immortally glorified and incorruptibly transfigured in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.

Rationally, Jesus makes it plain, “Whoever has seen me has seen the Father” (John 14:9). He did not “resemble” God. He was not “like God.” He is God .

John 14:12 NW — Most truly I say to you, whoever exercises faith in me will also do the works that I do; and he will do works greater than these.

To me the two natures created from the spirit for the souls of all mankind through life in One Body becoming again is hard to grasp for fallible minds.
“who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped,” ‭‭Philippians‬ ‭2:6‬ ‭

To me the logic of today was not present and only through faith could we than and until now be saved, rationally.

Logically, to me, Jesus did not come to remove ar add, just to fulfill through the New Living Sacrifice through two natures spirit and life becoming again One Holy Spirit Family One God in being a Family, to me.

Peace always,
Stephen
logical mystic

It is my understanding that they went to the realm of the dead (not Hell, but rather a holding place until Jesus came to save these souls). 1 Peter 3:18-20 describes Jesus going there after He died to minister to the souls there.

We believe that individuals who, “through no fault of their own, have never heard the Gospel of Christ and seek God with a sincere heart,” may still be saved (CCC 847)

Which one?

Only God knows who truly chooses Him and who chooses Hell. Some of the Firemen who died on 9/11 may go to Heaven and some may not.

Everyone has a religion, whether they recognize it or not. Is it your politics? Is it Sports? Is it Science? What/who is your god? Is it government? Is it Experts? Entertainers? Or do you see yourself as a god perhaps?

God is all good. God is both fully love. And God is a God of justice! He gifts us with the free-will to choose Him or to choose Hell. And He honors that decision. Without free-will, are we not just robots? And if nothing matters and everyone is going to Heaven, is there justice?

C.S. Lewis asks, is your view that Jesus was:

A. a Lunatic
B. a Liar
C. never existed
D. Lord

Which say you?

If what the Bible says is true, that man disobeyed God and brought sin into a world that was designed for good. That He gave them many chances throughout Salvations History (may a recommend a book by Dr. Scott Hahn titled, “A Father Who Keeps His Promises”) and even still, we turned our backs on Him. So He sent us His only begotten, obedient Son, Jesus to show you how much God loves you. And still, you reject and turn your back on Him. You make the same mistake as those prior to the time of Christ and many who lived selfish lives after.

Ignorance is one thing. Flat out denial or rejection of God is arrogant and foolish.

Peace to all,

To me some people have some faith but once the logic becomes clear, faith abounds, to me.

God Sent His Son become the New Living Sacrifice, to me.

What did Jesus come to do?
1, Make us happy.
2. Get us to heaven
3. Make eternity statically unfailing infallible and undefiled dynamically pulsing through His Passion in both natures, spirit and life in One Body loving only and loving with only the most love becoming again One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.
4. I don’t know

Logically we do not want to miss, the answer is #3, eternal life, through faith in the Trinity Family of God becoming again in all, One God in being.

If those of not as much faith knew logically what He came to do faith will be completely transformed immortally glorified reimaged and saved incorruptibly transfigured in One Holy Family, restored, reformed.

From The Two Nature God of Abraham faith is fulfilled through Jesus.

True Cade_One, To me, logically understanding the Mind of God helps one become more faithful.

Peace always,
Stephen

Was Jesus;
a lunatic?
a liar?
never existed?
Lord?

none of the above.
Jesus was misquoted.

“flat out denial of god is arrogant and foolish”
presuming to know god’s will is stupid and childish.

You people obviously don’t know enough to make an intelligent argument about this.
Please do research and learn about the historical Jesus and the origin and meaning about the gospels.

So let me understand you correctly. You believe:

  1. Jesus was not insane.
  2. Jesus was not a liar.
  3. Jesus existed.
  4. Jesus is not God.

Jesus says, “Truly I tell you, anyone who will not receive the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it” (Mark 10:15; Matthew 18:3; Luke 18:17).

What do you mean by “you people”?! ; )

And what do you mean by “historical Jesus”? I have yet to read Jesus Outside the New Testament by Robert E. Van Voorst, but it is on my to read list. As is The Case for Jesus: The Biblical and Historical Evidence for Christ by Brant Pitre and Robert Barron.

I have read most of Trent Horns book, Counterfeit Christs: Finding the Real Jesus Among the Impostors that probably addresses many the sources you have claim to have researched. I recommend the book if you are interested in reading it just on a critical level.

We have established that you are not a Trinitarian. Are you a Christian? You claim that Jesus existed, but you do not believe He was God. “Just misquoted.” Do you believe Jesus was conceived by a Virgin? Or do you believe that was simply applied to Jesus after He died. Do you believe in the Resurrection?

If you do not believe in the Bible, do you believe the Apostles were:

  1. con artists
  2. duped
  3. never existed
  4. disciples of Jesus (whom you believe was not insane, not a liar, did exist, but was not God)

Do you believe Jesus was the only begotten Son of God; just not God?

God took on human nature and took human flesh from a mother. The divine and human natures of Christ are united in the hypostatic union. Mary is not a divine person pre-existing from eternity, but she gave birth to Christ, a divine Person with two natures. Given that mothers give birth to persons and not to natures, it only makes sense to call Mary the Mother of God, even if she herself is not divine.

When Jesus said to baptize “in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost,” he used the word “name” in the singular, not the word “names” in the plural. Accusing Christians of believing in three “gods” amounts to taking the anti-Trinitarian arguments frozen in the second century and repeatedly re-microwaving them.

Are you here to have a conversation or are you just here to ridicule Catholics and promote historical-critical Biblical “exegesis”?

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I do not believe Jesus was born to a virgin. There is no such thing as an eyewitness to a conception. The idea that a christian scribe who was writing at least 40 years after the crucifixion or 70 years after the birth of Jesus could know the intimate circumstances surrounding Jesus’ conception is highly unlikely.
I do not believe in the resurrection.
I don’t know what “only begotten son of god” can mean.
I think the apostles were followers of Jesus.
I believe that bible verses which have Jesus giving himself divine titles or claiming
to be god were the product of the imagination of the author of the gospel of
John.
None of the gospel writers were first-hand eyewitnesses. We don’t even know
what their names were. The names they now have were assigned to them long
after they were written. They were originally anonymous.
The christian tradition about jesus went through a lengthy period of imaginative
development between his death and the writing of the first gospel which was
Mark. Interestingly the gospel of Mark is relatively free of the kind of theological
embellishment we find in the later N.T. writings.
The bible says Jesus had brothers. Any argument that these were “half brothers”
or “cousins” is nonsense and betrays a dogmatic motive. The bible says brothers.
Catholic formulas about the dual natures of Jesus are just that; catholic formulas
with no basis in objective reality and no coherent logical meaning. They are
irrational doubletalk.

I went to catholic grammar school and catholic high school in Chicago. Went to mass every Sunday for the first 14 years of my life. I’m not unfamiliar with catholic “teaching” and belief.

I think Jesus was a wandering preacher in the first half of the first century. He was probably born in Nazareth. The tradition of Bethlehem as the birthplace was a theological invention to connect him with the line of king David. After his death numerous traditions about him developed and evolved over a period of four to six decades. Later an institution calling itself the catholic church emerged and then embarked on a campaign and mission to formulate and insist upon a series of doctrines and dogmas about Jesus which were determined to be absolute and beyond question. This is my best guess as to what happened.

Peace to all,

So true David, there is so much we can miss through Education because there is so much truth to learn and relearn, to me, I believe, To me, I try to learn through logic because the finite failed disciplines never can understand infinite infallible undefiled disciplines with out logic, to me, I believe.

I think some can see the OMNILogic? The Family of God becoming and living in us all becoming again? One God? To me? I can.

To me seeing the Trinity logically as The Holy Spirit Family places the missing person in the Trinity as God of Mercy. To me, Mary and Queen of Heaven and The Personal God of Transformation from the New Eve through The Immaculate Conception for The Virgin Birth of Jesus becoming The Christ in all. The Holy Spirit is not a person but rationally the Family of God and Mary is to me in the Trinity as the Mother together with The Father and The Son all together in One Holy Family of God preexisting and OMNILogicalGod, to me. Now wouldn’t this logic make a good Catholic Website, to me. I believe. OMNILogicalGod..Com. All mankind’s path, Your path to transfiguration, becoming again.

Through the Chruch faithfully we see the Trinity with the Holy Spirit as a person with the Father and The Son, sure, but logically the Holy Spirit is the Family of God. This rationally leaves room for the Mother of God, Mary as Queen of Heaven existion thgether with the Father and The Son in One Holy Spirit Family, in all reality, to me, I believe. The “Woman” Mary today belongs in The Trinity, to me as The Miriam Presence Pope Francis was looking for in all generalization.

To me this is the Catholicism on can take to Church and generalize faith for all becoming again through the real Power of the Holy Spirit Family One God in being. Literal rebirth and salvation throuh The Holy Spirit Family conceived in all through the Christ becoming inside of us living transforming glorifying and transfiguring from the Power of the Holy Spirit Family through the created souls of all for our flesh becoming together in One Body manifested by Holy Spirit power becoming again One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, to me.

Sure, Jesus had brothers and sisters, and A Mother and Father. And They were all together as A Holy Spirit Family Unit undeflied and infallible intelligence logic unfailing becoming again in all through two natures conceived in Jesus, from the Spirit through the soul of Jesus for the flesh in One Body becoming The Christ in all through “The Word becomes Flesh” becoming again in all One Holy Spirit Family One God in bieng, In all faith from the God of teh Faith from Abraham, this is Logical Catholicism that even a child can understand, to me, I believe.

We know from the cross we become brother and sisters of Jesus from the Blood and Water birth for all mankind from the cross from where the blooid and water flowed for all reborn and saved to the New Heaven and Earth, Heaven reopened by the FirstBorn Christ of all creation.

While Jesus was still talking to the crowd, his mother, Mary and brothers in The Christ becoming again stood outside, wanting to speak to him.

47 Someone told him, “Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to speak to you.”
48 Jesus replies to him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers and sisters?” 49 Pointing to His disciples, Jesus says, “Here are my mother and my brothers. 50 For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and Mother.”
And Mary was right there with them all, Our Mother, with Our sisters and brothers of The Christ.

We logically become from One Father through One Mother for One Son in The Christ in all as brothers and sisters in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being through the blood of The One God in being.

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.“Eternally begotten” emphasizes the divine nature of Jesus and his unique relationship with the Father, distinct from creation or being made. Logically, Jesus preexisted as a Personal God of Justice and Eternal Priestly Authority of Spirit and life as a God in being before creation making Jesus really God from preexistenace, to me. The Word becoming flesh fulfilles the Two Nature God from the Faith of Abraham from the spirit through the souls of all for the life through the flesh of The Christ in all becoming One Body becoming again in all One Holy Spirit Family One God in being. To me, local proof Jesus is God is Jesus’ preexistence, to me, but who needs proof, right? We know already, faithfully, now we know logically, Jesus is God, for all who need proof, to me, I believe, right Cade_One? You, are the man, because you caused me to write like this, I know, blame it on Cade_One, and yes, and thanks, always.

The Author of the Gospel According to John is most likely Mary, Queen of Council, because John took Mary home from the cross, “Ecce Mater tua,” and lived with Her for approximately 40 years. The Gospel of John speaks more of The Christ and Jesus’ divinity that and of the other synoptic Gospels to me. His Mother knew more than we know from the Power of Teh Holy Spirit through the Angel Powered Annuncation New Eve Immortalization becoming the Will of the Father through the Immaculate Conception, to me. And Mary perhaps Authored The Book of Revelation, to me.

John would perhaps ask, “Mary, what was it like in Heaven together with Jesus and The Father before creation was ever created was even created?” Mary would say, "Yes John, grasp your quill and papyrus? and write this down"and say to him in some form of Aramaic or Religious Hebrew derivation, to me.

Mary would perhaps answer, “Well John, In the beginning, we were all together and we wanted to create the greatest gift, Love and make it eternal from the spirit through the life of all in His Passion becoming again in all One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Family, One God in being…”

Cousins that were to all are now brothers and sisters in all from One Father through One Moter for One Son in the Christ becoming again One Holy Spirit Family One God in being through Sacrifice and Penance the blood of God, logically, to me.

The Dual Nature of Jesus is resurrection of the spirits in the souls for the Bosom of Abrahan thrugh the Life in the flesh of The Christ in One Body, both natures becoming again One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, logically.

Trinity Virgin Birth is Holy Spirit Family Conception in Jesus from preexisting souls allowing Virgin Birth because the souls of the Holy Family preexisted not requiring blood and water birth to earth, for creation, to me logically.

To me The Gods of The Trinity become inside of us and live becoming again One Holy Spirit Family One God in being. And each God is separated in the Powers of God and equal in the Powers of the One God and together One God in being The Holy Spirit Family One God in being from Creation becoming Transformation becoming again Immortally Glorified and Incorruptibly Transfigured One Holy Spirit family One God in being, I believe.

The two Sacraments from death to life are Baptism and Penance, flesh and spirit rebirth and salvation, forgiven becoming again in all One Body, One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.

To me logically Adam and Eve were created in the Garden and chose love through choice and the Flesh of the New Eve became reborn Baptized of the flesh nature becoming transformed immortality becoming spirit nature incorruption through the New Adam Jesus in The Christ from Sacrifice through Penance forgiven in all mankind glorified becoming incorruptibly through the Power of The Holy Spirit transfigured and “Saved” becoming again in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.

Peace always,
Stephen

This Sunday’s Gospel reading Jesus asks, “Who do people say that the Son of Man is?”

They replied, “Some say John the Baptist, others Elijah,
still others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”

He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?”

Simon Peter said in reply,
“You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”

Jesus said to him in reply, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah. For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father. And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the Kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”

My friends were born at home (they are borderline Amish ; ) There were not witnesses of their births either, but they do exist and I do know that they were born : )

They did not have televisions and YouTube as forms of entertainment. I’m sure that sitting around and telling stories was very common. I am know by my friends as the guy with stories. You can bring up pretty much any topic and chances are, I have a story of a time in my own life or a story about someone else’ life that I find interesting.

And if you have been waiting for a Messiah and here is this man who has performed miracles and fulfilling the prophesies of The Christ, how much more would these stories be important to tell?

I can’t help you there.

I’ll toss this one over to @DLW : )

…who believed in the Resurrection.

It is debatable, though if not written by the Apostles themselves, by successors of the Apostles.

The target audience of Mark’s Gospel was the Gentiles. Matthew was written for Jewish Christians, Luke’s Gospel was a second letter to Theophilus, and John’s Gospel was written for both Jewish and Gentiles. So, if there are differences in how the Gospel message is conveyed, this has more to do with it than your assumption that they were making stuff up or embellishing from the original.

And Early Church Fathers disagree with you. You sound very Protestant.

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The bible says brothers.
Catholic formulas about the dual natures of Jesus are just that; catholic formulas
with no basis in objective reality and no coherent logical meaning. They are
irrational doubletalk.
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@StephenAndrew’s brain just lit up! You said one of his buzzwords, “logical” : )

I’m sorry.

Praise the Lord for this.

Debatable. Some of the most ignorant fallen-away Catholics went to Catholic School.

Or could it be that there were individuals spreading false claims about Jesus and the Church that Jesus began in the Apostles, and gave the authority and responsibility to protect and correct, did just that. You can read the writings of the Early Church Fathers. You can read the Early Church Councils, which I began to do last Lent. They tell you why they were defining what Christians are to believe. They tell you the errors that were arising during that time.

Your view of the Early Church sounds more like what the Mormons believe, that the Church went Apostate after the death of the last Apostle. Only you do not believe that it was restored in the “Prophet” Joseph Smith. Or maybe you believe as some of the fundamentalist Protestants believe, that the Catholic Church was an invention of Constantine.

You are free to believe whatever you want, but I believe, as St. Peter proclaimed, that Jesus is “the Christ, the Son of the living God.” And that Jesus gave him the keys of the Kingdom and the authority to loosen and to bind. I believe Jesus breathed on the Apostles and that they ordained successors. And we can read many of the writings of these successors. And the Apostles and many of their successors were martyred for their Faith in Jesus Christ. Who would go to death for a lie, unless they believed the lie? Which you already said that Jesus was not a liar and that neither were the Apostles. But you have implied that you believe their successors were liars and deceivers.

Thoughts?

“Thoughts?” No I give up. I am incapable of arguing with someone who clings to their pre existing beliefs so stubbornly that they refuse to learn anything of the truth or the facts. Every single thing in your last message is false.

Where did you get your information, a Dan Brown novel? ; ) Do you believe Jesus was Married to Mary Magdalen too?

Peace to all,

What is your definition of The Holy Spirit? Thanks in advance, Stephen, to all.

To me. The Holy Spirit is the Family and we all become again, One Family, to me, I believe,

Peace always,
Stephen

It looks like any further debate with this person is going to be a lost cause.

Who knew Arius and Nestorius were back in town?

Peace to all

True DLW, core beliefs are hard to alter, to me.

Nestorius (c. 386 – c. 451 AD), on the other hand, was the Patriarch of Constantinople and was condemned for his views on the relationship between the divine and human natures of Christ.

No one yet on planet earth understands to logic of The Mind of God, to me, rationally and in all generalization until OMNILogicalGod, to me, I believe.

Logically the flesh of the Christ is what saves the Angels and all from the Bosom of Abraham becoming again through both natures, Spirit and life in One Body through The Christ in all mankind becoming again One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, OMNILogically, to me, I believe.

And to me logic can make people more faithful, rationally.

Both Arius and Nestorius from the 4th and 5th Centuries, more Forefathers of the Trinity, still missing the logic perhaps asking, What is Stephen’s cell number? in the 21st century to explain OMNILogic to us. I know, just kidding here, Stephen acting all logical and things. OK enough, now back to reality. And even Praxeas and Tertullian missed the Trinity logic as 1st and 3rd Century Forefathers of The Trinity. We become from failed becoming sanctified transformed immortalized and becoming again confirmed glorified and incorruptibly transfigured One God in being, to me, in all generalization, I believe.

The logic is from three Personal Gods in being preexisting becoming living in all mankind becoming The Christ in all becoming again One God in being One Holy Spirit Family through two natures, Spirit and Life, in One Body, OMNILogicalGod, to me I believe.

This way all mankind becomes sons and daughters of God, OMNILogically, to me, I believe, rationally and from the Faith of Abraham and The God of Two Natures Spirit and Life. God and Temple together in One Body.

Mary is logically in the Trinity together with the Father and The Son in One Holy Family of God in all through becoming The Christ in all mankind becoming again in all One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.

We are not arguing the faith, we believe just what the Church says from the Moses seat, just as it is in Heaven. The logic is being generalized, just the OMNIlogic.

Logically, Jesus to me was divine preexisting as Eternal Priestly Authority of Spirit and Life becoming again in all through the Christ. Even both Arius and Nestorius missed the logic, to me, I believe. To me, the infallible logical intelligence had to be able to become to earth in a failed state for trail and error to become fulfilled infallible undefiled intelligence logic manifested from the Power of the Holy Spirit Family through the created souls of all for the flesh, The Body in two natures becoming One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.

What makes Jesus God is preexistance before creation. So was the Father. Mary is logically the First Christ on earth from the Annunciation from Angel Gabriel, when Mary said, “Let not my will but your will become to me.” Mary is the First Disciple and On the spot Mary becomes The Immaculate Conception in Flesh Immortality for all transformed in the New Eve through Holy Spirit Incorruption unable to fail from the Will of the Father and entered Heaven without death of the flesh, I believe. Just like Jesus, Her Son, Mary from the Annunciation never sinned, through the Assention back to Heaven from where Immaculate Mary, The Mother of God came.

Logically the divine and human natures are through two Christs, Mary and Jesus becoming the Christ in all Flesh immortality, from The New Eve and Holy Spirit incorruption for the New Adam in One Body of our own Christ becoming again in all One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, to me, OMNILogically.

Peace always,
Stephen

These are very bold statements. I prefer to think that Jesus could be faced with any and all temptation, but that he would not succumb to any of them, simply because his heart is filled with unmotivated pure love of God our eternal Father. However, he may appear to be tempted, for the purpose of setting a strong example for us to follow. Jesus is not one of us. He is sent to our planet by God to give us God’s message of invitation to come to our eternal home. he could forsee the crucifixion, but agreed with God to undergo it, because he understood that it was God’s plan. And even when being nailed to the cross through hands and feet, his major concern was that those who were doing such things should be forgiven. This is because his love for God and for all of us is inconceivable to the human mind.

There are a lot of presentations in response to this subject. I have not read all of them. I will just put forward my own views as I have been taught.

God the Father is the most simple aspect to consider. He is the creator of all of us, and of all that exists in heaven and earth. He has no beginning. And He is the Supreme controller, the Supreme Proprietor, and the Supreme Enjoyer.

He is the owner of everything. We come into this world naked, and we leave with nothing. But for a few years we think we own things. Because He is the real owner of all the exists, everything should be used in His service, and used in ways that He approves of. God is the SUPREME PROPRIETOR.

We are always thinking about our personal pleasure. But it is only when we understand that our every thought, word and deed should be for the pleasure of the Lord that we will know true fulfillment in our hearts. God is the Supreme Enjoyer. As we seek our independent pleasure, we only face frustration and pain. As we seek God’s enjoyment, our hearts become filled with spiritual joy. God is the SUPREME ENJOYER.

The holy Ghost is God’s all-pervading presence in the material creation. As God is all powerful, He can expand His influence. In the spiritual realm He is not alone. There are the heavenly hosts who interact with God in many ways, always with love, always in His service, always with the greatest joy. Therefore Go does not have to be very much concerned with the affairs of the material creation. He manages the material creation through His expansion as the Holy Ghost. “Not a blade of grass moves except by the will of the Lord.” That is the Holy Ghost. He is also in our hearts in that way, moving all of us as well. Only one who understands this can “turn the other cheek”, because he knows that “God is slapping my face.” Only a person who understand that God is the SUPREME CONTROLLER can tolerate all the actions of others. Only such a person can be truly humble.

As far as “God the son”…yes he is as good as God, because he is empowered by God to bring God’s message into the material creation. “I and my Father are one”, simply means, that whatever Christ tells us is as good as the words of the Father Himself. He is God’s true ambassador and must be given the respect that is due to God Himself, because he is God’s confidential servitor. He appears in this world; but he is not like us. He is not of this world.

A crude example can be given. The president of the country is the supreme person in the country. But if he passes a law, his influence can be felt all over the country, even while his is sitting in his office. And his ambassador is given as much respect as if he were the president. in this sense the president, his all pervading laws and implementations, and his representative are all simultaneously one and different.

This is my understanding.

Peace to all,

The God from The Faith of Abraham is from, through, and for three powers through two natures, spirit and life in One Christ becoming in One Body for all becoming again In all One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, OMNILogicalGod, to me, I believe.

In all generalizations, I believe The Trinity is logically Three Gods becoming in all mankind from the New Eve becoming brothers and sisters to each other to all through the New Adam becoming in all Sons and Daughters of God through The Christ becoming again in all One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.

So true, Peter1, and by faith we believe as the Church. But logically, I believe the intelligence of creation undefiled is from more than a Holy Spirit Person can ever deliver. The Fullfilled logical undeflied infallible intelligence of all of creation is the Holy Spirit Entire Family logical family intelligence and the “Sophia” Wisdom created from the Father through The Mother transformed becoming in all and three Powers and Gods Preexisting as Personal Gods in being becoming and living inside of us becoming Christs as transformed brothers and sisters for The Son for all through The Christ becoming again glorified and transfigured in all for all mankind becoming through the Power of the “Sophia” Wisdom of The Entire Family of God in all becoming glorified and transfigured Sons and Daughters of God in all becoming again in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, I believe.

Peace always,
Stephen