Does God accept someone leaving the Church who has schizophrenia?

If someone has persistent hallucinations/visions of all kinds of demons & is in perpetual distress for over a decade with these demons, then does God accept him leaving the Church?

His diagnosis is schizoaffective & he is a torture survivor. He says he can no longer be Catholic because it is a constant battle (a.k.a the demons have ruined everything). Priests have refused his begging for an exorcism because of his diagnosis.

Please pray for him. I am worried for his safety & his soul. He has many suicide attempts.

Is he saying that the demons would let him alone if he were no longer Catholic? That, to me, sounds like evidence that he is really tormented by demons. Based on what we read in the Gospels, Jesus would drive out the demons and heal him. But how many of Christ’s servants today can do that? My opinion: he should not turn away from God, but if he can find someone from another church who can do the job, God would not forbid it. In the Gospel we read that some people who were not part of the apostles’ group were driving out demons in Jesus’ name, and Jesus said it was not bad.

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The easy answer is no. Jesus desires to free individuals from our disordered thoughts and deliver us from evil.

We are not meant to battle alone. Some things are a spiritual battle, while other things require a physical battle, but most things involve both our physical effort, united with God’s grace, and others whom God puts in our lives along the journey towards peace, joy, love, hope, and all of the other gifts that God offers to us.

We have a young man in our Men’s Bible Study group. He posted some very dark and demonic things on our Church’s Facebook Review Page. I personally reached out to him (no realizing he was a gentleman in our Group), because he uses a different name on Facebook and his picture was older. I thought maybe he was a relative of the man in our Bible Study. I told him that I was sorry that he felt the way he did and I invited him to our Men’s group. I later received a message from a man claiming to be his brother who informed me that he had committed suicıde and that I was the last to speak to him! I was freaking out! I called our Parish Office and left a message. I reached out to other men in the Parish who might know the gentleman. After some digging they figured out that it was the man in our Group and that he has some mental issues. His Parents checked him into a Hospital and confirmed that he was very much alive, but that he had stopped taking his medication, which caused him to spiral. I was relieved, but I quickly realized that I am not good with individuals who are suffering/battling in this way.

This I can do. I am not good at talking with individuals struggling with mental illness, but I am good at Praying for individuals who are struggling. As he Prays, “Come Holy Spirit,” may he know that Prayers are united with his, and yours.

Saint Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle.
Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
May God rebuke him, we humbly pray,
and do thou, O Prince of the heavenly hosts,
by the power of God,
cast into hell Satan and all the evil spirits
who prowl about the world, seeking the ruin of souls.
Amen
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Hi Literalman,
The thing is that whenever he goes to a healing service or someone tries to heal him he has a terrible mental breakdown! There is a real risk of another suicide attempt (he has had about 30 attempts sadly!). The priests do not believe he is under attack, but that he is schizophrenic. However, I do pray for him daily straight to God & to St. Michael the archangel. No one else in the family sees demons or has any strange demonic experiences, except for one person who was just out of a psych hospital.
I’m just wondering, with all of this horror and sadness, if Jesus understands him leaving the Church?
Brigit

Hi Cade_One,
Thank you for your prayers. They are appreciated! He had Electroshock therapy which helped with the depression, but he now lays down all day with terrible headaches. It’s very depressing. Then again, God has miraculously saved him from suicide many times! That gives me hope for him.
God bless you,
Sorrowful BVM

Exercising is a good natural way to battle depression. My headaches were cut in half when I stopped drinking caffeine and eating things with large amounts of sugar.

Electro-shock therapy does not sound like therapy at all! That sounds like mid-80’s torture (saw it on “Ghostbusters” ; )

My opinion: Jesus understands everything. Leaving the church: God is merciful, and once I read about God caring for the lowly and that the mentally ill are lowly for sure.

So, Cade, getting medical information from Ghostbusters sounds like tele(vision)medicine.

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As we have a gross material body, we also have a subtle body composed mind, intelligence, and what is called in the Sanskrit language “ahankara” or “false ego”. This is the false sense of self, based on identification with a temporal material body. The basic understanding of spiritual life is that “I am not this material body; I am an eternal spirit soul.” This means “I am not white, I am not black, I am not man or woman, I am not healthy or ill, Neither am I American or Russian, etc.”. This is because all of these designations apply to this temporary bag of skin and bones that is filled with blood, bile, mucus, vomit, stool and urine. When we leave the body, it is buried or burned, thereby returning to the earth from where it came. (ashes to ashes, dust to dust). The spirit soul is eternal…the real person. As soon as the spirit leaves the body, it begins to compost. It is never alive. Dead matter, like the earth in your front yard is never alive. But when the spirit soul, the eternal being, is inside one of these earthly containers it runs around. “False ego” is the aspect of the subtle body that causes us to identify with the skin and bones bag, and to feel and think, “This is me. I am Mr Jones, I am Miss America, I am Donald Trump, etc.” We are none of these things. They are all fabrications of the dead material energy. But because we identify with this bag, we carry the conviction that I will be happy if and when I can give pleasure to this bag. This is the service of Mammon. But service to the bodily senses and the false ego of worldly reputation, etc. never satisfies the spirit soul inside. The spirit soul can only be satisified when he/she experiences a living relationship with God. Therefore the saints in the different traditions demonstrate a marked indifference to the demands of the flesh. The is not because they are being artificially austere. It is because they understand, by direct perception that “I am not this bag of skin and bones.” This is called self realization. They are, like us, seeking pleasure. But they have realized how to have spiritual pleasure rather than material pleasure.

The schizophrenic person usually, due to drugs, and intoxicants, has damaged a subtle protective coating that covers the subtle body. In this way the subtle body becomes available to disembodied spirits (ghosts), who are caught between material existence, but are being punished by having no material form. But because they are not spiritual evolved, they have the desires of the flesh, but have no gross body through which to pursue these desires. This is why they “haunt”, or take possession of people who have gross material bodies. In this way they can induce the haunted person to do all kinds of immoral things, take intoxication…even commit suicide. Many, many people are influenced like this. If someone is having a relationship with a man or woman, the evil spirt can become jealous, and cause conflict between the lovers. they can break up families. These things are going on. Jesus knew how to deal with such mischief, and could expel them from people bodies.

However, these spirits are repelled by good spiritual energy. A person who is haunted should not leave the church. He should associate with the church and with Godly people as much as possible. The evil spirit will try to convince the haunted person to leave, so that they can do all nonsense with such a person.
Therefore we should avoid intoxication, alcohols, psychedelics, etc. as these things make us more susceptible to being “possessed” by these evil disembodied spirits. And we should protect ourselves by being as close to the church and to prayer as we can.

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Great replies

Yeah I think God accepts everyone imaginable

Yes, thank you everyone for your replies. I will continue to pray for him to return to the Catholic Church, which is what I’m convinced God wants me to do. Without God and our faith community what will happen to him? He is adrift and alone and lost.

Blessed Virgin Mary & Padre Pio please pray for my brother Rory and everyone in distress whether it is from actual demonic attack or an illness. God bless all the mentally sick people. Saint Michael the archangel, defend us in battle.

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