POLL: What if Catholicism Was Illegal?

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I do not see my answer listed. I would simply not comply and continue living my Faith.

We kind of saw this during Covid. Churches were shut down. Churches that remained opened (mostly traditional Catholic Churches and a few Evangelical Churches) were either forced shut down by the government (some Pastors even being arrested).

But, traditional Catholics were a little less public about their decision to continue offering the Sacraments and living out their Catholic Christian Faith in spite of what government authoritarians had to say about it.

It was illegal to practice it in Ireland when it was under penal law for 2 centuries by the British. Its a fact.

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You would have to worship very privately. Modern-day dissolution, but instead of it being monasteries only it would also include churches. In my county and which happens to be run by freemasons, and a heroin gang / grooming ring, amidst a socialist uprising (but which is also national) that has also taken place inside the diocese (gulp) - heretics abounding - this could occur and we have seen movements that way. This is the sort of happening which you expect to take place in someone else’s lifetime other than one’s own.

Problem with the US (and which I favour, by the way, as a country) - there are pros and cons - is that being a continent made up of States which then constitute the whole as one nation, the sheer size of it results in much of its concentration being on all things America. This is why the US even bothers to make an appearance at some of these ‘global warming’ conventions…because they think, “Europe is doing something, so we’d better venture along and be diplomatic” with an overbearing trust in what they are endorsing. Otherwise, were this not the case, the US would have slammed down diplomatically on the UK by now due to threats of extremist politics on Western Democratic Alliances.

The problem with socialism is that it indoctrinates, as it is an economic philosophy; it is the philosophy aspect which is the aggressor upon people’s minds (psychologies). And the population is made up of Catholics but who are also people with a percentage grabbing the power which comes with selling your soul to a totalitarian government and which any government is in entirety if adopting socialism as its driving economic (I tend not to limit the extents of socialism by containing explanations solely within the area of economics but am just using the official description for reasons of shorthand; it’s expansive in reach) mechanism…

Point being, that the Church ceases to be in terms of a physical presence (publicly and ‘formally’) precisely because its members who have taken positions of authority within it have been bought and have made themselves answerable to an evil government (an uprising within government, to be exact) and so literally allow it to happen. They allow the slide into false worship. They allow conquest. They allow error and eventual collapse. I say that if they allow then they invite. There is no excuse and especially if they have been told.

This isn’t just a possibility but is…actually…happening…now.

Before Bexit, when Brits ran from the beaches with tails between legs the populace had been voting for seats in Europe of various candidates belonging to a variety of parties which no-one bothered to research, everyone ignorant of what some of those parties represented and this due in part to geographics, but had people known their history to in-depth levels they would have understood that parties such as the Christian Socialist Party (I didn’t know either, while I didn’t vote for Brexit when the ‘option’ for want of a better word came about) was a title which is a contradiction in terms. In fact, I seem to remember many parties with Socialist in the title. And so we see that errors had already been drip-fed into the UK during the decades that we were a part of the EU until we left when suddenly the UK’s incorporated socialist policies stood on their own plateau. Had we remained in the EU and grown knowledgeable of the dangers of socialism then we could have fought, on the part of decades and maybe centuries of future generations, and as if existence depended on doing so, towards the ridding of a definite dystopian horizon looming ahead…and consequently the current situation may not be as bad as it is. Instead, the UK chose to close itself up within its own borders and numb itself morally with the practice of LGB, held up as an idol, alongside worship of the devil in legislative format.

So, yes, this isn’t hyperbole or a discussion for ten or twenty years down the line; it is, rather, topical.

DEpends on what you call socialism.There is no such thing unless you are poor - it all comes out in taxes from you paycheck.Like in Canada it is said that there is free healthcare - no such thing it comes out in your taxes whether you use it or not only poor people get a break and I see nothing wrong with that they need the help or they would get no healthcare.With the way the world is getting price wise socialism will take over at some point.Would you rather see people starve or go without medical help.No very christian is it.No one want to help the poor anymore they just want them out of their sight and to forget about them.Canada is not a socialist country.

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“There is no such thing unless you are poor”

A very dangerous comment. Everyone gets to witness it, it is just that everyone has to know what to look for. It begins with your fundamental rights being shoved out the way, incrementally (note that I did say the subject is broader than economics). When your fury rises at some related decision made by ‘the state’, on a social level, to an extent which is unprecedented, then you should start to look about. The reason I say your perspective is dangerous, is because that would very probably be exactly the same opinion as those in Russia before they were taken over and in Nazi Germany…until it was too late. I know in Nazi Germany, the same with those of black ethnicity in the US (though the latter was obviously concerning racism, only), segregation was instituted, and the public categorising of Jews as an inferior race, while segregation of the Jews was from a point where there was no holding back as the beginning stage of an all-out takeover. If there are no people to oppose, then there is no war and only conquest. Indoctrination is called ‘slow crawl’ for the reason that they do try and miseducate as many minds into believing in their totalitarian methods and hand to them, in exchange, sprinklings of power before a complete takeover of a country.

That is what will happen no way of stopping it more and more people are hurting financially except for the rich.This new world we live is built for the rich not the poor.

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I believe that there could be an inner circle, while that idea can be an off-put because of being side-lined as just another conspiracy theory, of those directing machinations towards the building of a global bourgeoisie. I might be sceptical of that idea, and put this down to what I said as being a world-wide… ‘socialist’…domination (to those other than 'the state, on a global scale, exclusion and second-rate citizenship), only we know of ‘the Beast’ and who comes in the form of a person and so therefore making it possible that he belongs to such a group. Or maybe neither he nor any other nefarious individual is in existence yet and we are simply seeing extremist politics currently being thrown at people by misled politicians from particular countries. A dystopia which is either run by a set of people who devise how things are to be or worldwide oppression which runs itself (or at least, as said, until certain people become extremely powerful). The freemasons are legal and they are everywhere and are those who can and indeed do manipulate the economy and make deals in the dark - possibly them or some derivative in such a driving seat.

Ever read the Book pf Revelations it doesn’t go well for the world.

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I do intend to read it, again. We’re not supposed to try and guess the Mind of God and ‘times and seasons’ and which I think pronouncements about it being ‘the last times’ is maybe doing, and which I think I remember a couple of recent figures from the direction of the Vatican then undertaking in frank terms, yet it doesn’t hurt to be wary of situations and people. While their intentions may not have been fear-mongering, you don’t make statements which can have people living out of fear. Fear is a negative emotion, an opposite to hope. Fear is of the devil. Or like when you tell people wrongly that Hell doesn’t exist but that they will devolve back into fish. While many may have visions, where such realities are presented before them, doesn’t make those visions a matter for the public but rather could be a mere presentiment in reflection of one’s own display; visions need to be discerned so as to absolutely make sure they are from God and if so why - in separation of Jesuits-originale to those modern pesky ones, a ‘discernment of the spirits’ is required. That said, presently, I would say that socialism, on a global scale (‘globalism’), is the biggest long-term threat to humanity and resembles a mechanism which could be seen in pictorial terms as a skeletal structure which given a name could be Leviathan of which the closest monster in relatable terms in the NT is The Dragon. In the Book of Revelations we see the Spirit of the Anti-Christ which as we know has already been around since abortion was brought in, last century, and probably centuries before, for other reasons, so the person who takes the spirit of the Anti-Christ (I think I am right in that interpretation without re-reading but will update if necessary) could be a socialist or someone who takes advantage of socialism for reasons of world domination…

Russia is more intent on business, in my thinking, than conquest. He (or ‘they’) wants the Ukraine for the Black Sea ports. He took down Stalin’s memorial and is ex-KGB, not KGB, and also got people into trouble for putting on demonstrations outside of an Orthodox Church, as well as stopping Asssad from gassing his own people, so unless they’re playing a game with everyone then I don’t have obvious reasons to believe that they (or ‘he’) is a communist. He has no reason whatsoever to like the UK, as I don’t, because the UK is most definitely socialist, ghastly country - totalitarian. This diocese is totally socialist, now. There is no real Christianity, from what I can see. Evil. He had no reason to like Obama, either (the president he was opposed to). Either the Catholic Church believes that the mistakes of communism were not spread to such a degree that it would mean the end of the world or they don’t. I believe that errors did spread but not to that end. The damage was not quite as bad as it would have been had St. Pope John Paul II not written the follow-up letter. While…

[Alexander Litvinenko was an officer of the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) and its predecessor, the KGB].

(!) And who supported the publicist, Litvinenko: Socialist Britain.

Don’t, for a minute, mistake these facts as being coincidence.

Muslims are too public in their hatred of…basically everyone to become a serious contender for world conquest, with the Jews and America as sizeable opponents.

Those of the Jewish religion are not aggressive in a world dominion type of way that they would push for a King David of their own devising. I just don’t see it.

So, who? Satanists in explicit format are too wayward to obtain power in a formal setting. So, next up are the freemasons. They have the devil behind them, holding secret rituals (calling him, ‘Lucifer’). They don’t like communists and which would explain why many socialist countries around at the moment haven’t formed into full-blown communism but rather have remained generally totalitarian. Freemasons are arrogant and hate having to hide their power. They mimic the devil in that way. And which points to the character of an end times evil perpetrator. They murder at local levels. As well as international. They are everywhere. And also have managed to attack wealth from behind political curtains where associated people resembled success and/or integrity.

Look what I stumbled across…a video which led to such searches, this morning:

andy burnham - fabian soceity - YouTube

Do Freemasons and Fabians still rule the roost? – Nelle’s journey

The funny thing, our diocese in the UK has shaken hands with such people.

And this. Someone posted their existence on YouTube:

World Economic Forum - Wikipedia