# What is happening to the church **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Created:** [November 30, 2023, 5:05pm UTC](https://forum.catholictalk.net/t/what-is-happening-to-the-church/1112 "2023-11-30T17:05:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Susana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Susana](https://forum.catholictalk.net/u/Susana)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 5:05pm UTC](https://forum.catholictalk.net/t/what-is-happening-to-the-church/1112/1 "2023-11-30T17:05:39Z")
What is happening to the church tradition ---
**Author:** ![Cade\_One](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.catholictalk.net/cade_one/32/34_2.png) [@Cade\_One](https://forum.catholictalk.net/u/Cade_One)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 7:10pm UTC](https://forum.catholictalk.net/t/what-is-happening-to-the-church/1112/2 "2023-11-30T19:10:40Z")
Well, on one hand there are some in the Church (and from outside the Church) to destroy tradition. On the other hand, there has been a revival of traditionalism and a rejection of modernism currently happening in the Church simultaneously. This can be both hopeful and concerning at the same time (depending where you fall in the divide). Pray for our Church, that we do not abandon the good, the true, and the beautiful for an inversion of it. What the world calls good is truly bad; what the world says is beautiful, is in fact ugly; and what the world claims as truth, is actually nonsense. Our concerns are valid. ---
**Author:** ![chrisg93](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee59a6/32.png) [@chrisg93](https://forum.catholictalk.net/u/chrisg93)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2023, 10:21pm UTC](https://forum.catholictalk.net/t/what-is-happening-to-the-church/1112/3 "2023-12-03T22:21:50Z")
I contend that abortion is the cause and result of failure of the Catholic Church. There are 200,000 abortions worldwide every day and the Pope and the Church does next to nothing about it.