# Pope Francis calls Trump’s plans of mass deportations of immigrants ‘a disgrace’ **URL:** \ **Category:** News\ **Created:** [January 21, 2025, 9:36pm UTC](https://forum.catholictalk.net/t/pope-francis-calls-trump-s-plans-of-mass-deportations-of-immigrants-a-disgrace/1997 "2025-01-21T21:36:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![AllGussiedUp](https://forum.catholictalk.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@AllGussiedUp](https://forum.catholictalk.net/u/AllGussiedUp)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 9:36pm UTC](https://forum.catholictalk.net/t/pope-francis-calls-trump-s-plans-of-mass-deportations-of-immigrants-a-disgrace/1997/1 "2025-01-21T21:36:06Z")
> **[Pope Francis calls Trump’s plans of mass deportations of immigrants ‘a disgrace’](https://nypost.com/2025/01/20/us-news/pope-francis-calls-trumps-plans-of-mass-deportation-of-immigrants-a-disgrace/)** > > ROME — Pope Francis said Donald Trump’s plans to impose mass deportations of immigrants would be a “disgrace,” as he weighed in on the US president’s pledges nearly a decade after calling… Aren’t there walls protecting parts of the Vatican? Because if there are walls the Pope better tear them all down, to prevent “discrimination”. And also why does the pope have security protection? He needs to lose the security detail because security and safety is probably “racist”. The pope and George Soros are just doing what is right, unlike all these “disgraceful” Americans who are trying to remove the darkness of Communism from our futures. Thanks pope, you communist ding dong, you are a real gem and a great leader aren’t you - you and George Soros, and Satan… 😇 ---
**Author:** ![Pax](https://forum.catholictalk.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/f0a364/32.png) [@Pax](https://forum.catholictalk.net/u/Pax)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2025, 4:53pm UTC](https://forum.catholictalk.net/t/pope-francis-calls-trump-s-plans-of-mass-deportations-of-immigrants-a-disgrace/1997/3 "2025-01-27T16:53:20Z")
A lot of people have an issue with the Pope’s hypocrisy in relation to the mass immigration issues when he finger-wags at countries like the U.S. but at the same time warns the world that there will be jail time and/or fines if anyone crosses the borders into the Vatican by any ways other than legal means. I believe that it’s sadly, things like this that have contributed to the radical decrease in the acceptance of the RCC being a bastion of genuine morality in the world. The World has put Francis on “ignore” at least in some part because of things like this. ---
**Author:** ![Cade\_One](https://forum.catholictalk.net/user_avatar/forum.catholictalk.net/cade_one/32/34_2.png) [@Cade\_One](https://forum.catholictalk.net/u/Cade_One)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2025, 5:28pm UTC](https://forum.catholictalk.net/t/pope-francis-calls-trump-s-plans-of-mass-deportations-of-immigrants-a-disgrace/1997/4 "2025-01-27T17:28:31Z")
You are correct. Italy is one of the Top Ten Countries Kicking out Immigrants in 2025: [![](https://forum.catholictalk.net/uploads/default/original/1X/48d20a7b311854069653351a6717bfc44cb4a31e.jpeg "Top 10 Countries Kicking Out Immigrants in 2025 and Why") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x48WCZ0Bh5w) I would say this, how Christians ought to treat “aliens” and what policy should be are two different things. We are called to treat immigrants with dignity and respect on one-on-one basis, but we can support to protect our borders at the same time. Some view this as hypocrisy, but I do not. I don’t like how many Republicans paint all immigrants as violent criminals and how many Democrats paint all immigrants as saints. The reality is that they are human beings (some good and some evil, who for reasons feel it is necessary or justified to enter our borders illegally). In some cases they are being used as pawns for political purposes, which is also not good. ---
**Author:** ![AllGussiedUp](https://forum.catholictalk.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@AllGussiedUp](https://forum.catholictalk.net/u/AllGussiedUp)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 5:21pm UTC](https://forum.catholictalk.net/t/pope-francis-calls-trump-s-plans-of-mass-deportations-of-immigrants-a-disgrace/1997/5 "2025-01-29T17:21:49Z")
President Trump declared it a National Emergency and military troops are sent to our southern border. Our current pope is a communist. He is a very bad pope. Religious leaders have staged a soft war against the USA and they should be held accountable. Over the past several years Catholics have shown me they are mostly weaklings. The males in Catholic Church are mostly cowards and traitors. ---
**Author:** ![Cade\_One](https://forum.catholictalk.net/user_avatar/forum.catholictalk.net/cade_one/32/34_2.png) [@Cade\_One](https://forum.catholictalk.net/u/Cade_One)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 7:32pm UTC](https://forum.catholictalk.net/t/pope-francis-calls-trump-s-plans-of-mass-deportations-of-immigrants-a-disgrace/1997/6 "2025-01-29T19:32:45Z")
> [@AllGussiedUp](#): > > President Trump declared it a National Emergency and military troops are sent to our southern border. Fact. > [@](#): > > Our current Pope is a communist. He is a very bad Pope. No disagreement here. > [@](#): > > Religious leaders have staged a soft war against the USA and they should be held accountable. You have a way of looking at things. There are leaders who are heart people (limp-wristed) and there are leaders who are head people. And then there are some who are both heart and head. > [@](#): > > Over the past several years Catholics have shown me they are mostly weaklings. The males in Catholic Church are mostly cowards and traitors. I sent you a few questions via DM in regards to weakness vs meekness vs strength. Where did your father beat you? Kidding : ) ---
**Author:** ![Cade\_One](https://forum.catholictalk.net/user_avatar/forum.catholictalk.net/cade_one/32/34_2.png) [@Cade\_One](https://forum.catholictalk.net/u/Cade_One)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 3:32pm UTC](https://forum.catholictalk.net/t/pope-francis-calls-trump-s-plans-of-mass-deportations-of-immigrants-a-disgrace/1997/8 "2025-01-30T15:32:47Z")
> [@StephenAndrew](#): > > Peave always, Peeve always to you too ; ) ---
**Author:** ![AllGussiedUp](https://forum.catholictalk.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@AllGussiedUp](https://forum.catholictalk.net/u/AllGussiedUp)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 2:46am UTC](https://forum.catholictalk.net/t/pope-francis-calls-trump-s-plans-of-mass-deportations-of-immigrants-a-disgrace/1997/9 "2025-01-31T02:46:41Z")
> [@Cade\_One](#): > > I sent you a few questions via DM in regards to weakness vs meekness vs strength. Where did your father beat you? Kidding : ) Not really but I grew up during a time when kids were free to play outdoors and do risky things and get bruises, didn’t wear helmets, we built launch ramps and danger was our name. Got into fights if we had to. We drank water out of the hose. ---
**Author:** ![Cade\_One](https://forum.catholictalk.net/user_avatar/forum.catholictalk.net/cade_one/32/34_2.png) [@Cade\_One](https://forum.catholictalk.net/u/Cade_One)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 7:21pm UTC](https://forum.catholictalk.net/t/pope-francis-calls-trump-s-plans-of-mass-deportations-of-immigrants-a-disgrace/1997/10 "2025-01-31T19:21:59Z")
Same. We had similar childhoods : ) ---
**Author:** ![Sam40](https://forum.catholictalk.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@Sam40](https://forum.catholictalk.net/u/Sam40)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 12:38am UTC](https://forum.catholictalk.net/t/pope-francis-calls-trump-s-plans-of-mass-deportations-of-immigrants-a-disgrace/1997/11 "2025-03-26T00:38:48Z")
I may make people angry but these people that enter our country illegally deserve respect and to be treated with respect BUT they are still breaking the laws of our country. As long as they are enabled, they will always be hiding in the shadows. They will never fully be a part of our country. The more compassionate thing would be to treat them kindly and to assist them with gaining legitimacy. Then, it would be up to that PERSON INDIVIDUALLY to do what he or she needs to do. It was coming-the hue and cry to curb illegal immigration was coming, whether via Trump or someone else. “Let every person be subject to the governing authorities; for there is no authority except from God, and those authorities that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists authority resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Do you wish to have no fear of the authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive its approval;” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭13‬:‭1‬-‭3‬ ‭NRSV-CI‬‬ > **[Bible - Bible App](https://www.bible.com/bible/2015/rom.13.1-3.NRSV-CI)** > > Encouraging and challenging you to seek intimacy with God every day. ---
**Author:** ![Sam40](https://forum.catholictalk.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@Sam40](https://forum.catholictalk.net/u/Sam40)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 12:43am UTC](https://forum.catholictalk.net/t/pope-francis-calls-trump-s-plans-of-mass-deportations-of-immigrants-a-disgrace/1997/12 "2025-03-26T00:43:03Z")
I agree and I think the Pope is wrong. We are a country of laws and it is wrong to enable ANYONE to break our country’s law. Citizens have to follow those laws. This passage says it all: “Let every person be subject to the governing authorities; for there is no authority except from God, and those authorities that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists authority resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Do you wish to have no fear of the authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive its approval;” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭13‬:‭1‬-‭3‬ ‭NRSV-CI‬‬ > **[Bible - Bible App](https://www.bible.com/bible/2015/rom.13.1-3.NRSV-CI)** > > Encouraging and challenging you to seek intimacy with God every day. ---
**Author:** ![Literalman](https://forum.catholictalk.net/user_avatar/forum.catholictalk.net/literalman/32/117_2.png) [@Literalman](https://forum.catholictalk.net/u/Literalman)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 12:21pm UTC](https://forum.catholictalk.net/t/pope-francis-calls-trump-s-plans-of-mass-deportations-of-immigrants-a-disgrace/1997/13 "2025-03-26T12:21:56Z")
Speaking of obeying immigration laws, I’ll just point out that not all immigrants are here illegally. My wife, her sister, and our nephew and niece who live in the United States are all immigrants and all are now US citizens. ---
**Author:** ![Cade\_One](https://forum.catholictalk.net/user_avatar/forum.catholictalk.net/cade_one/32/34_2.png) [@Cade\_One](https://forum.catholictalk.net/u/Cade_One)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 4:35pm UTC](https://forum.catholictalk.net/t/pope-francis-calls-trump-s-plans-of-mass-deportations-of-immigrants-a-disgrace/1997/14 "2025-03-26T16:35:48Z")
Romans 13 comes up a lot in Christian libertarian circles, as [you can see here](https://libertarianchristians.com/?s=Romans+13) : ) ---
**Author:** ![Sam40](https://forum.catholictalk.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@Sam40](https://forum.catholictalk.net/u/Sam40)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 6:11pm UTC](https://forum.catholictalk.net/t/pope-francis-calls-trump-s-plans-of-mass-deportations-of-immigrants-a-disgrace/1997/15 "2025-03-26T18:11:33Z")
The thing is, no matter what anyone believes about Roman’s 13, or what any political persuasion says, it’s still illegal and it is really wrong to enable someone to break our laws, especially someone who is more or less innocent. I think anyone that misleads another person into committing something that is wrong will have to answer to God, much less to the laws of our land. Having said that, does that mean that all of us can cherry pick which law we believe in right or wrong? I know what libertarians believe and ds or I agree with but mess your own life up. Not someone else. ---
**Author:** ![Cade\_One](https://forum.catholictalk.net/user_avatar/forum.catholictalk.net/cade_one/32/34_2.png) [@Cade\_One](https://forum.catholictalk.net/u/Cade_One)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 6:34pm UTC](https://forum.catholictalk.net/t/pope-francis-calls-trump-s-plans-of-mass-deportations-of-immigrants-a-disgrace/1997/16 "2025-03-26T18:34:10Z")
> [@Sam40](#): > > I know what libertarians believe and ds or I agree with but mess your own life up. It sounds like you and I agree on immigration. Not all libertarians agree on most things, so I don’t know that you do know what we believe and do 😂 I invite you to read Frédéric Bastiat’s “The Law.” He was Catholic. It changed the way I view politics. _Libertarianism_ is not an anything goes philosophy, as some believe it to be. That would be _libertinism_. Put “The Law” in the queue of your next books to read (maybe after Left). It is not a long book. I read it in two sittings (and I’m a slow reader, because I like to take in every word and sometimes stop and reflect).